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Re: uh [johnclineii]
by priggly on Mon Apr 24 21:20:14 PDT 2006
There is NO direct comparison to the Duratec 3.0 in that article. And the "as much as" language could also mean there would be 0.00001% improvement...or none at all. Utter rubbish. The 3.5 is directly compared to "the '06 Zephyr [which] is powered by the outdated 3.0L Duratec that generates 221 hp." The article goes on to state, "The Lima plant, which builds the 3.0L Duratec V-6, will have capacity to turn out 325,000 3.5L engines annually when it begins production later this year. The Duratec 35 is projected by Ford to power one in five of the company's North American vehicles by the end of the decade. Mated to the 6-speed automatic transaxle, the combination is expected to improve fuel economy as much as 7%." If that's not a direct comparison, I don't know what is.
Re: This is what wories me [samnoe]
by nedc2 on Sat Oct 16 18:31:01 PDT 2004
Why so long? There are a number of factors: First, it is a brand new engine, really new engine architecture. The Duratec 30 was based on a 2.5 litre engine, which I believe was designed in part by Porsche. The Duratec 35 is the first engine in a new series of V6 ranging up to 4.0 litres, it is designed with VVT from the start, it is designed to be less expensive to produce because it utilizes newer aluminum casting technology than what was available when the the 2.5 l Duratec was first designed, as well as a number of other new technologies (some of these have already been incorporated into the Duratec 30 BTW). Secondly, Ford is in the process of converting their Lima Ohio engine plant, where the Vulcan V6 used in the base Taurus and some Ranger models is made, to produce the new Duratec 35, it is to be a more flexible facility than the current one, this means new equipment, worker training, etc. And the plant still has to be able to produce engines for current vehicles. There are major capacity and scheduling problems involved as Ford moves to more flexible techniques, that's something the foreign transplants didn't have to worry about. Thirdly, money is a big factor, as are contracts, with both unions and in some cases local and state governments where there may have been tax breaks involved. Ford also invested way too much money in buying other car companies instead of plant modernization and product development during the Nasser years. They are still paying for that. Ford certainly wishes that they had this engine available now, they made some strategic decisions years ago to go with a smaller displacement global design, and didn't seem to anticipate that there would be this insane horsepower race in the North American market. About the current powerplant in the Five Hundred: I doubt if I would go for the larger Duratec 35 engine if was an option now, I've driven the current car and its performance is more than adequate as is. If anything it's better than the performance of my old Crown Vic with its V8, the current Taurus with the Duratec, or the V6 Camry. It's not a rocket ship, but I don't need one anyway. Unless you want pay for my car insurance and traffic tickets ;)
Lima, I always get a mental picture------------
by floridian on Sun Feb 04 10:15:04 PST 2001
bobcook54: If I remember correctly isn't Lima the site of the largest mental institution in the state? It used to be joke that a lot of my friends ended up there after trying their hand at selling cars. LOL. I was born & raised in Columbus and have a realitive that runs a little "cinder lot" used car operation in Sunbury, north of Columbus. I thought you may have been with Hatfield Hyundai in Columbus. I think they had three stores there for awhile. Keep warm up there. Those Ohio winters can be as nasty as any for sure.I haven't had to endure any for the last 26 years. I only venture up there in summer for the annual family reunion held at the Shawnee Lodge near Portsmouth. Floridian
re: Supply questions
by bobcook54 on Sat Feb 03 10:32:39 PST 2001
Mike- We are about 120 miles north of Cinn. in Lima,Ohio. Yes, Hyundai district managers can check with their region's distribution manager and find out what has arrived at port.The dealer can then get with the district rep to match up a vehicle to your wants and desires. IF!!! the dealer has allocation availabilty, they can then mark it sold and it should take about 3 weeks shipping and prosessing time to receive it at the dealership.Remember,this is from the port on the west coast and not an order placed to Korea. That would take probably 3 months or so.As to opening a dealership in Wisconsin,I would have to ger assurances that you Badgers would not continue to beat up my Buckeyes!!!

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