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If GM went away...
by lemko on Fri Oct 24 07:03:58 PDT 2008
...I would probably go to Chrysler. If both go away, I'd have nowhere to go. Ford or the imports? Yuck! That would be like choosing between lima bean or brussels sprouts flavored ice cream!
Re: Altima uses premium [captain2]
by mz6greyghost on Tue Aug 26 04:58:56 PDT 2008
This just gets better and better... the 3.7 may be assembled by Mazda but it is still a Ford engine... ...In block and basic architecture ONLY. Mazda has their own heads and other internals, as well as their own tuning. Even the GM 3.6 is technologically more advanced than the DT. I'd hope so, since you said yourself that the DT has been around for nearly 20 years, but the new 3.5/3.7L, as pointed out before, is a "DT" in name only. If you'd actually do some research, instead of deluding yourself, you'd discover this. Let me reference post #961 since you obviously missed it: The Duratec 35 is a 3.5 L (3496 cc/213 CID) V6 that began production in fall 2006 and is the first member of the all-new Ford Cyclone engine family. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Duratec_engine New Engine Family. The engine that will be built at Lima--which was code named "Cyclone"--will bear the name "Duratec 35" http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KJI/is_10_115/ai_n6010896 Thanks to Jeffryscott for finding this. Did recently shop the AWD crossovers and actually found the CX9 to be a pleasant surprise, but like its bethren about 10% worse in FE when compared to something like a Murano. Well, since the Murano is considered midsize, and the CX-9 a large crossover, a 10% worse FE isn't so bad, with the extra row of seating, larger size and cargo capacity, and more HP that the CX-9 offers...
Re: Altima uses premium [captain2]
by jeffyscott on Mon Aug 25 10:35:31 PDT 2008
The Mazda 3.7 DT is what is, apparently, a bored/stroked Ford 2.5/3.0/3.5 and NOT a 'new' engine' by any reasonable definition in 2009. Except that it appears that the 3.5 in an entirely new engine, despite the name. The Duratec 35 is a 3.5 L (3496 cc/213 CID) V6 that began production in fall 2006 and is the first member of the all-new Ford Cyclone engine family. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Duratec_engine New Engine Family. The engine that will be built at Lima--which was code named "Cyclone"--will bear the name "Duratec 35" http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KJI/is_10_115/ai_n6010896
Re: Mazda5 colors- Golden Sand Metallic [wp746911]
by 5_more on Tue Jul 29 18:04:00 PDT 2008
Imagine what cooked lima beans look like (green), then add metallic flakes and a clear coat.
Re: Malibu Vs Accord Vs Camry vs Sonata [aviboy97]
by baggs32 on Mon Apr 28 06:40:45 PDT 2008
Well, all of Mazdas trannys come from Japan. Maybe they would send the v6 engine attached w/ the tranny to save shipping costs? In reality, we will have to wait and see. Good point. That would make more sense. But the trannies they use aren't built by Mazda so bolting them together in Japan and shipping them here could end up costing even more because you would then be shipping one of the parts twice to get it here. I guess we will have to wait and see. Like I said, I don't really care where the engine is built because both the Ohio and Japan Duratec plants are very good now. I'm more curious about what else FMC is going to drop the D37 into because I seriously doubt the Lima plant is going to produce a handful of them for the MKS only. They have been very good about keeping costs at bay lately and doing that would be a step backwards IMO. Making the D37 for 2 cars makes a load of sense however.
Re: Malibu Vs Accord Vs Camry vs Sonata [akirby]
by baggs32 on Sun Apr 27 18:25:17 PDT 2008
Ford doesn't have the capacity to build enough 3.5/3.7s for themselves right now, much less for Ford and Mazda. They will later in the year when both Lima plants are at full speed again. One and a half of the two plants were undergoing heavy re-tooling which is a big reason for the low capacity to produce the D35 until recently. Hence my speculation as to the Mazda 3.7L possibly being produced here. I also just read the 2009 Lincoln MKS order guide and the Duratec37 for that car is rated at 270 HP and 265 ft-lbs of torque. Sound familiar? Might it make financial sense to build that motor for 2 cars rather than one low volume car?

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