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Re: Depressed [golfrski]

by ljgbjg on Thu Jun 12 07:58:22 PDT 2008

WOW!!!!!!! Dead to rights!!! Here is Honda's web site from months ago about VCM - . To help keep engine vibration from reaching the cabin in every mode, active engine mounts automatically adjust their firmness to help absorb energy. The transition between the three operating modes is completely seamless and goes unnoticed by the Accord’s passengers.” TODAY??!! "To help keep engine vibration from reaching the cabin in every mode, active engine mounts automatically adjust their firmness to help absorb energy. The transition between the three operating modes is nearly seamless and goes unnoticed by the Accord’s passengers." TA DA!!! I think anyone unhappy with the VCM has a great case against Honda for false advertising and could rescind their purchase. A partial victory for you golfrski - that they changed their advertising is an ADMISSION that the prior advertising was incorrect and misleading. Good luck everyone - I see a huge class action here - some attorney delaing with class actions is bound to pick up on it, along with individual lawsuits.

Re: Another point [larsb]

by jipster on Tue Mar 11 11:36:04 PDT 2008

If I ever get to the point that I am ignoring facts to make my own point, please call me on it. I don't want to ever be a guy who does that. Well... you want to win don't ya? Take a look at politicians when they debate... follow their example for victory. If you are trying to win a debate/argument/discussion, you want to ignore/minimize the "facts" that support your opponents viewpoint. Attack your opponents "facts" as theory, speculation, and smoke. Get your opponent on the defensive. You keep defending yourself with the "these are facts" defense... this weakens your position. Right now your losing this war bro. Mount a strong counter attack, and the tide, as well as the tidester... will turn in your favor. :shades:

I could mount a defense (sic)

by drfill on Thu Oct 18 07:45:55 PDT 2007

That would make G.W. blush, but given it has the best ratings, the best crash tests (iihs), the best incentives, multiple comparison victories, the ONLY market share gain, and the best previous quality, and best previous crash tests, and a history of actually REACHING it's goals, and not losing sales with a new truck, I really don't see the point. When you drive one, you'll understand. We've only just begun to fight. ;) What would happen if the sky fell everytime the domestics had a bad article, or lost share, or missed an opportunity? Would you like that rap sheet? DrFill

Someone actually sees what is happening. (a year late)

by 62vetteefp on Fri Mar 30 18:45:11 PDT 2007

http://www.washingtontimes.com/autoweekend/20070329-103902-3663r.htm Edmunds editor A year ago at this time, rumors of GM's imminent bankruptcy were rampant, but the more recent news has been encouraging. GM reported it earned $950 million for the fourth quarter of 2006, its first profitable quarter in two years. For all of 2006, GM still lost money, but significantly less than the year before -- $2 billion compared with $10.4 billion in 2005. That's in stark contrast to GM's crosstown rivals, who are only beginning to implement their turnaround plans. Ford reported a $12.7 billion loss in 2006, its worst performance in its 103-year history. On the product side, GM surely is showing signs of renewed life. Once GM was famous for styling and its flair is returning, starting with Cadillacs and now making its way to such bread-and-butter models as the Chevrolet Malibu. More significantly, GM is leapfrogging the competition in interior design. The Saturn Aura and Sky were first to demonstrate GM still knew how to do good interiors. The 2008 Cadillac CTS and 2008 Chevrolet Malibu take design to another level. GM's success stories are mounting. Cadillac's turnaround has been phenomenal and well documented. But Saturn and often-overlooked GMC are just as impressive. They were the only two domestic brands in the U.S. to have higher sales in 2006 than in 2005, and they are having particular success in the all-important California market. On the numbers side, GM has lowered unprofitable daily rental fleet sales; reduced incentive spending to its lowest level since April 2002, though it has announced March incentives to keep its sales momentum going; brought transaction prices closer in line with manufacturer's suggested retail prices so it discounts less; eliminated 34,300 union jobs through buyouts and early retirements; and announced it will close 12 North American facilities by 2009 in line with its lower sales and market share. In addition to the recently announced financial results, GM is seeing some payoff. Its market share is edging upward and more car shoppers are considering GM products. GM is also winning awards. GM swept the 2007 North American Car and Truck of the Year awards, only the second time in the history of the awards that a single manufacturer has won both honors. A new national poll of 1,000 Americans by Rasmussen Reports shows 69 percent think favorably of GM, a major jump from 48 percent last year. Fortune magazine's 2007 ranking of America's Most Admired companies saw GM climb to fifth from ninth in the motor vehicle sector. Still, GM is declaring no victory and recognizes much work and many challenges lie ahead. At the top of the to-do list is GM's upcoming contract with the United Auto Workers' union; the current contract expires in September. GM absolutely must negotiate a favorable contract with the union. GM has to address skyrocketing health care costs ($4.7 million this year). GM must negotiate an agreement and avert a strike, costly in more ways than one. GM cannot afford any missteps or any backsliding on its commitment to be best-in-class in various segments and a fuel economy leader. Introduction of a production version of the ground-breaking Chevrolet Volt plug-in hybrid concept would go a long way toward changing perceptions of GM as a leader in technological innovation -- a reputation it once owned -- and GM as an environmental leader.

Re: Oac [blkhemi]

by lexusguy on Sun Jul 09 12:14:37 PDT 2006

Japanese comp? We're still waiting..... How about the Skyline GT-R? "The GT-R's success in motor racing was formidable, particularly in the annual race at the Mount Panorama circuit in Bathurst, Australia, where the champion three years running was a GT-R (despite receiving additional weight penalties in years two and three due to its unbeatable performance), and in the Japanese GT series where it has remained dominant up to the present day. No other race victories by the GT-R could escape without controversies, at the 1990 Macau Grand Prix Guia touring car race, the factory backed R32 driven by Masahiro Hasemi led the race from the start to the finishing line which caused a wave of protests by the European entrants. The following year, the car was forced to carry a weight penalty of 140 kg very much to his frustration and had to settle for fourth place against the top three DTM specification race winning BMW M3 and Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II. The GT-R's success at Mount Panorama in 1991 and 1992, both by Jim Richards, led to a change in formula regulations, which came to exclude turbocharged and four-wheel-drive cars in subsequent years. It also led indirectly to a move to the Super Touring Car category in the JTCC and the creation of the JGTC grand touring car series in Japan, where GT-Rs can only compete in rear-wheel drive form - and still win." The Skyline has dominated racing for 30+ years. It was so good that the Europeans had to whine "unfair! unfair!" and get the Skyline crippled so they could at least have a chance.

Advantages, or Preference?

by warner on Wed Jan 04 13:52:06 PST 2006

Did you even read the article? I mean, did you? If you think they only saw the advantage at the track, you must have had your blinders on. Yes, I did read the article. That's what led me to believe that many of the things they liked better about the Mazda were simply that - a matter of personal preference, NOT something that one could assign a real value to. Here's some non-performance quotes: From their summary: "Even so, the Mazda still outshines the newly redesigned Civic when it comes to interior materials and styling. Plus, the Mazda's dash is easier to use than the Civic's two-tiered speedometer/tachometer displays as are its stereo and heater-A/C controls." Would you say this is a matter of preference, or what EVERYONE would find about the car? Personally, I love the styling and (especially) the dash layout on the new Civic. It's one of the main reasons that I wanted to get it after only having my 2004 Civic for a year and a half. Otherwise, the 3's interior is simply nicer than the Civic's. Leather seats with seat heaters are standard with the "S Grand Touring" trim level. The leather-wrapped steering wheel is relatively small in diameter and thick-rimmed which makes the 3 feel more like a sports car when you're beating WRXs through the slalom. If you like leather seats, that's fine. I don't prefer them myself. From what others have said (in these very forums) about the leather used in the 3's seats it's cheap and plasticy feeling. Oh, and let me know when I can come and watch you beat the WRX through the slalom on your commute into work, okay? The instrument panel is dominated by a center-mounted speedometer surrounded by a tachometer on the left and fuel and coolant temperature gauges on the right. It's a conventional design which is as functional as it is attractive. This reviewer preferred the more conventional look, others prefer the two-tiered dash of the Civic. It's a matter of preference and certainly not something that makes one car "better" than the other. The passionate choice Notice their choice of words? Notice they didn't say the "practical" or "economical", or "smart" choice? It's the little things that add up to give the 3 the victory. It does virtually nothing wrong and gets so much right. We prefer its interior design and functionality and we think it's a better-looking car than the Civic. Plus, it wins in any contest of performance. Bottom line, the 2006 Mazda 3 wins because it offers a driving experience far beyond our expectations and, more importantly, beyond its price tag." Here they clearly indicate that their choice was based on preferences that many people who actually BUY the cars may not share with them. And they also admit to a HEAVY bias on performance, which is the only truly objective advantage that the Mazda has. The "Second Place" Section: "Confused interior Honda traditionally produces superb interiors, which is why we are puzzled by the jump backward in heating-A/C controls. The last-generation Civic's three-knob, three-button design for temperature, fan speed and vent location was as elegant, intuitive and as efficient as any system ever built. Yet, with the 2006 Civic, Honda left simplicity in favor of more buttons (nine of them to be exact — and two knobs). It's not a deal breaker, but it's certainly not as easy to use as the old design. Here again we have some preference issues. Having owned both the previous version of Civic and now the 2006, I find the new heat & A/C controls on the new car much easier and quicker to - I don't have to mess with rotating knobs while driving; I simply reach out and push a button. To me, this is easier. Again, it's a matter of preference. And one of their editors: "Senior Editor Scott Oldham says: Honda's designers made this an easy choice for me. The Civic's cab-forward profile, pug nose and gargantuan dashboard just ain't my thing. Although a tick tall and narrow, the Mazda's proportions are much more to my liking, and its interior is modern and upscale without feeling forced and contrived. Its leather-wrapped three-spoke steering wheel, for example, is so perfectly executed it should be the template for the device industry-wide. Pure preference again, no? ("it just ain't his thing"? Nice slang journalism - I wonder where he was taught English) Stack on the Mazda's stronger performance and the choice really gets easy. Although the softer-sprung Civic performs well for the class, the Mazda simply eats its lunch in any speed contest man can conceive. And that pace is managed without any sacrifice in comfort or utility, in fact, the more fun-to-drive Mazda is also available as a little wagon. The Civic is not. Yeah, we know it performs better on the track. Can that say that again in another way, or did they use them all up? But the clincher for me is the Civic's silly gauge placement, which puts only the tachometer where it should be; viewed through the steering wheel. Honda stuck the rest of the dials at the base of the windshield. Bad idea, people. Very bad. Ranks right up there with wicker furniture and the XFL. More preference......I suppose this reviewer never heard of heads up display? Work another shift and buy the 3. I would. " You'll have to in order to pay for the gas and lost resale. So they said it won in objectiove tests and subjective tests Really? Which objective tests did it win in again? Performance, right? Like I said..... Initial cost is one portion of the equation, right? What about total cost of ownership? They don't have the TCO for the Civic yet, so we can't do a comparison yet. I think you'll be surprised at the retained value of the Mazda. It is holding up well Let's just use the history of the Civic, okay? Or do you have some reason to believe that this one will be different for some reason? The 3 still gets good MPG, just not as good as the Civic. 3: Good economy, very good performance. Very good economy, good performance. It's all relative. Not black and white, like you seem to believe. It's not the ONLY criteria It's the only criteria in which the Mazda beats the Civic. From what I take from your posts, you concentrate on getting into accidents and surviving them, I'll concentrate on not getting into them in the first place Really, which one of my posts led you to believe that? The one where I was hit by a car while sitting on my motorcycle? (which by the way would VASTLY out handle, out brake, and out accelerate your monster Mazda 3). Is that the one that you were referring to, perhaps? I'll refrain from the personal attacks....the Civic has enough advantages over the Madza that I don't have to resort to that type of conversation. Warner