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$1.99 in Beavercreek/Fairborn Ohio

by fenwah on Mon Sep 25 10:44:12 PDT 2006

Just paid $1.99 at the Speedway station on Col Glenn Highway (across from the Nutter Center).

Suzuki's

by harrychezt on Sat Sep 23 22:24:02 PDT 2006

In-laws had em(still got one, a 97, nearly 100K, one they got rid of, was a 90, with 213,000 on it)..... but they called them Chevy "Trackers". Anyhow, they are great in snow, or mud(and he used his 90 to pull up a 500 lbs block of concrete.... out of the ground, with an old basketball post stuck in it, buried in he ground /dirt 3 feet+.. used a chain, and reversed the Tracker!). Anyhow... They are really built well, but the "Tracker" is horrible NVH(*or was, before they quit making them, the sx4 may be the "new' Tracker?). Do not like anything but the reliability and able to handle most road conditions. People buy the Yaris, etc, and they are what, 10-12 seconds to 60? Some midsized sedans take to 9 seconds to 60. How "slow" is the sx4? 30 seconds to 60? MPG is not good over at Suzuki, for some reason. The 1997 Tracker(90 HP) gets maybe 26MPG hwy, tops. This is what, 29-31MPH, for SX4? That's better, and more HP. 3 choices of drive? I'd leave it on FWD, 90% of the time. Who else is selling a new SUV/car for 15-17K and 7/100K warranty) these days? Dealerships are small(one guy posted above about Cleveland, etc... mentioned this)get this, in (Troy?) Ohio.... the dealership is in the back half of a Motor home store! I kid ya not. The 2 sales persons looked to be 70 and one lady, one man, and reading a newspaper, totally ignored me! 2 dealerships closed the past year+, one was open 10 years,one near Dayton, one near Fairborn. One was opened less than 3 years,in Piqua, and closed(they did not seem to even try to sell the cars, when i looked at the Aerio awhile back). They have one opened up near Dayton(newer one) but they have maybe 2 of every vehicle, and do look like one of those used car dealerships... the old gas stations that go out of business, and someone buys em and sells "Arnolds A+ Autos" , 12 exciting cars to look at, all on one lot. Suzuki's a trip: They seem to have Solid cars, great reliability, but Slow, and not great MPG(for engine size/car size). Worst part is the dealerships Do Close! One was opened barely a year, and folded. Do you wanna buy your car from a place that may fold in 1-2 years? Suzuki needs: 1) More HP for their vehicles. 2) Better MPG 3) Better(waaaay better) dealerships, one's that do not close every other year. The Reno I drove was decent, but , ya had to floor it between 0-45MPH,after that, it was avg. 29-31MPG for this , too? There are some V6's claiming 29-31MPG these days, on mid sized sedans! I like Suzuki, in general, but I hope that they pick up the pace, and quickly, to correct some of these issues, or their sales pace(upwards) will stall, and maybe even slide again.

Last comments for the night.

by harrychezt on Sat Dec 17 21:50:47 PST 2005

To be honest, i am hoping to move( been here 10+ years) closer to dayton, so I do not get the ugly stares, or "in my face" attacks about my vehicles I buy. They tend to drive whatever, overall, near fairborn(Air Force base, Wright-Patterson). Go on the base... you see about 50/50 mix of "foreign" cars and "American" cars( maybe Ohio made Hondas, and S Korean Made Chevy Aveo's). Anyhow, I usually..... I try to mind my own business, here where i live/work, etc. Biggest "problems" is road ragers nowadays(vs" why did you buy that type of vehicle" questions).....but, form what i read, lot of people get road raged by others, no matter what ya drive. One last comment: think the kids quit bothering me because i tell them I'll buy a(whatever..."American car") if they join the military,lol... tends to throw them off of track. Anyhow, have a good one. it is almost 1am here. Time for us older people to leave the net. Peace. DAV 1983-1994

New danger to being inconsiderate

by imidazol97 on Tue Sep 14 03:56:59 PDT 2004

Morning paper has story about teenager driving through neighborhood street plagued with loud stereos in cars. He was hit in the jaw with a BB. He thought his garage door opener had fallen off the sunvisor because of HIS LOUD BOOMBOX.LOL Instead he later found he'd been shot. Fairborn, OHIO, home of Wright Patterson Air Force Base!

PA Roads

by wildwills on Thu May 06 07:01:52 PDT 2004

shark715, I'm originally from south central, PA (York Co.), now in southern IL (active duty AF). I'm stongly considering the Armada for my next vehicle. As any PA resident knows, PA has the worst roads/highways in the country. Pot holes, literally big enough to swallow a small compact car (especially in Northeast PA). So from one Pennsylvanian to another, can you tell me if there's a lot of resonance/headliner movement while driving on PA roads? What about any severe creeks or flex in the dash or body? Thanks

Re: GM vs. Toyota, RESALE!!!! [tasillo #114]

by wildwills on Thu Apr 29 06:19:06 PDT 2004

You brought up something I have noticed among most car manufacturers... that being increased totor/brake wear on both Japanese makes and domestics. Most manufacturers have gone over to rotors at all 4 wheels now, you typically don't find rear drums anymore unless its a 250 series or higher. Rotors too nowadays are throw-aways, meaning they should be replaced each time you get new brake pads. On my wife's Explorer, I've changed the brakes myself and have had to replace the rotors each time. Fords are especially notorious for running undersized rotos and brake pads. I see a trend on most domestics to go with smaller rotors versurs larger ones like on European imports. It boils down to simple physics, the more mass your vehicle has, the more momentum is has, the more heat generated and the harder it is still stop. Common sense should bear out that full-size SUV's should have at minimum 10 inch rotors all the way around. Or at least vented rotors for improved heat dispersion. But resale value? It's not really a consideration for when I purchase a vehicle. I look strictly at reliability and ease of maintenance (can I work on the vehicle myself). Plus my overall impression with the vehicle after test driving. I'm a grease monkey at heart and don't mind doing my own automotive work as long as I have the time and know-how. But I have to concede, Toyota's quality outpaces domestic standards. That's what you get by going over to a "Lego" built vehicle with very little variations. GM is definitely heading that way (like Toyota) on their production line. Sooner or later GM will catch up, which will drive the other domestics to follow suit. And that means a better end roduct for all us consumers. But that's my opinion based on much academic research as a Quality guru.