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Real World -- Who's Driving E85?

by seniorjose on Sun Jun 18 09:50:52 PDT 2006

A sampling of Hoosier ethanol users: • Name: Aaron Pierce, 17, Carmel, high school student. Drives: 2003 Chevy Tahoe. E85 user: Since May 2. • Why: "Not only does it burn cleaner, it is a fuel that literally comes from the backyards of many Americans." • Performance: "It seems like I burn 2-3 miles per gallon less than I would with gasoline (but) newer E85 engines get better mileage out of the fuel." •Patriotism: "If we all switch to E85 as our primary source of fuel, the United States will control production, refinement and distribution. I look at how rich the Middle Eastern counties got from oil and I see our potential with E85." • Name: Doug Boner, 40, Indianapolis, plumbing manager for Earl Gray & Sons. • Drives: 2005 GMC Yukon. • E85 user: Two years. • Why: "Engine lasts longer and stays cleaner, (uses) less oil use and prices were lower." • Performance: "When using regular gas I get 15 miles to the gallon city driving. With E85 I get 13 miles to the gallon. On the highway, there is very little difference. I have noticed that I seem to get a little more ‘get up and go’ with E85." • Patriotism: "We have made ourselves into slaves of foreign oil." • Name: Greg Cooper, 45, Carmel, real estate broker. • Drives: 2004 GMC Yukon. • E85 user: Two months. • Why: "Frankly, my initial impulse was paying back those who have been sticking it to us for a long time when it comes to oil." • Performance: "City mileage is slightly worse (but) highway actually is a little better." Patriotism: "This helps reduce our country’s dependence on foreign oil." • Name: David Gray, 22, Fort Wayne, communications grad student at IPFW. • Drives: 2003 Ford Taurus. • E85 user: Two months. • Why: "It burns much cleaner than gas and helps our economy." • Performance: "I have heard horsepower improves with E85 due to higher octane levels, but I have not noticed." • Patriotism: "It helps create Indiana jobs at production facilities and get our nose out of the Middle East and South America." ETHANOL PRODUCTION POISED TO RISE Indiana has one ethanol plant in operation, New Energy Corp. in South Bend. But at least 12 others are either under construction or in the planning stages, including: • Putnam Ethanol, Cloverdale. • Cargill/Demeter, Linden. • Iroquois BioEnergy, Rensselaer. • Central Indiana Ethanol, Marion. • The Andersons, Clymers. • Rush Renewable Energy, Rushville. • Central States Enterprises Inc., Montpelier. • ASAlliances Biofuels LLC, Tipton. • Cardinal Ethanol, Harrisville. • Premier Ethanol LLC, Portland. • ASAlliances, Mount Vernon. • Advanced BioEnergy, Rochester. Source: Indiana Lieutenant governor’s office.

E85 in too much demand...NOW

by seniorjose on Fri Jun 09 09:31:51 PDT 2006

Stations selling E85 below cost By Dan McFeely dan.mcfeely@indystar.com It’s costing a little bit more for patriotic E85 drivers to stick it to foreign oil suppliers these days. Ethanol-blended fuel - made from Midwestern corn and touted as one way to wean America off of foreign oil dependency - is selling almost 70 cents higher than it was just a few months ago. A check this morning with a few of the 32 Indiana gas stations that sell E85 shows the price hovering between about $2.70 to $2.80 a gallon. At Joe’s Junction on Kentucky Avenue on the Southside, the price was $2.84, compared to $2.09 in February – and compared to $2.86, the average for regular unleaded fuel. But even that higher price for ethanol is less than what station owners are paying, according to Kellie Walsh, executive director of the Central Indiana Clean Cities Alliance, which promotes alternative fuels. Rack prices – the industry term for the price a station pays to a fuel supplier – for ethanol are about $3.36 in central Indiana, which includes fuel, taxes and transportation costs. “Some of these owners are really taking a hit in order to keep E85 on the market,” said Walsh. “They know that this time next year, production will be up and prices will come back down.” Ethanol price increases are being blamed on high demand from states that have phased out MTBE as an octane booster (which helps prevent engine knocking). Ethanol is used (at 10 percent) to boost octane and does not have the environmental health risks that are present in MTBE. Meanwhile, production and sale of E85 continues to climb. Indiana has five new ethanol plants under construction with two scheduled to open by this fall. Plans have also been announced for future ethanol plants in Hoosier towns such as Rushville, Bluffton, Marion and Rensselaer. South Bend-based New Energy Corp. is the only active plant in Indiana, churning out 100 million gallons per year. National retailers Wal Mart, Meijer and Kroger have each announced aggressive plans to add E85 pumps to their fueling stations in the Midwest and around the country. This week, the first E85 plant in oil boomtown Houston was opened at a Kroger store.Indiana has 32 E85 pumps, a number that is expected to climb this year. Meijer, for example, opened its first city pump in May and announced plans to have 20 pumps in operation by the end of the year.

Re: rear air deflector for CRD [boilermaker2]

by indianrefining on Mon Nov 28 08:50:46 PST 2005

Boiler - Just joshing. Actually, there's been quite a bit of confusion regarding "Smoke"'s hometown, over the years. He was born and raised (and still lives) in Columbus. The Rushville connection was that he lived over there for a couple of years after high school (since he was driving USAC sprints for a Rushville resident who also set him up with a full-time job). It was during this period that he first started gaining some notoriety and one of the Indianapolis sportscasters (Mark Patrick, I think) gave him the "Rushville Rocket" nickname. - Indian ;)

Re: rear air deflector for CRD [indianrefining]

by boilermaker2 on Mon Nov 28 08:28:37 PST 2005

Don't have the deflector yet. Was inquiring to the board and nobody is fessing up to having it yet (which is a bad sign). As for my geography lesson, as I drive my KJ into Rushville on SR 44 there is a little sign that reads (or at least did, I'll take a picture if I remember) "Home of the Rushville Rocket, Tony Stewart". :shades: Boiler

Re: rear air deflector for CRD [indianrefining]

by boilermaker2 on Mon Nov 28 07:38:37 PST 2005

Hi Indian, Catching up on this board. You made me LOL! No, not turning this torque-monster into a S2000 or tricked-out RSX. The claims for this little gadget was that it catches enough air and redirects down the back glass that is keeps the mist that gets sucked up from the road as you drive from accumulating on the window (run-on sentence, sorry). Since my winter mist includes salt and molasses, I thought that this might solve my problem (before it occurs). My wife has a mini-van. The vacuum-effect makes the back of her vehicle a caked-on mess during the winter. Just trying the keep the rear-end of my CRD pretty! :blush: On another note, which hometown of your homeboy do you live/return to. After all, Rushville claims Tony and Tony claims Seymour! :D Happy Holidays to you too! Boilermaker

great internet deal

by schroedk on Tue May 25 17:36:36 PDT 2004

submitted multiple queries for quote on Highlanders and Pilots, got a great quote on new Pilot for $500 over invoice (no haggle). Chose brand new Nighthawk Pearl Black EX with saddle cloth interior for $27,500. When two other dealers called wanting to give their "best" price, they wouldn't even give me their quotes when I told them about the above quote from Ed Napleton Honda, and one dealer informed me to go get that Pilot as soon as possible. Saw used 2003 model with 23,000 miles listed in nearby city with asking price $1000 more than we paid for a new one.