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If GM goes down...
by lemko on Fri Nov 07 16:06:18 PST 2008
...I will immediately buy a top-of-the-line Buick Lucerne CXS. I've already got a loaded Cadillac DTS Performance. They will be the last new cars I will ever buy. From then on out, all my future car shopping will probably be at Carlisle.
If I were in charge of GM
by lemko on Mon Nov 03 06:50:07 PST 2008
Buick: Definitely a keeper in my GM. No more "cheap" Buicks. North American Buicks would be finished more like the Chinese models - more of a Lexus than a present day Buick. Love the Invicta concept and the next LaCrosse would follow in this direction. LaCrosse name is troubling. Propose low-end LaCrosse be called the Special, mid-level the Invicta, and performance model be called the Super. Heck, bring back an aggressive RWD/AWD all-black model called the Grand National and get Buick back into NASCAR. Buick's got to do something about the geriatric image it's acquired over the last 20 years. Change Lucerne line-up. Low-end Lucerne would become the LeSabre and the high-end Lucerne would be the Park Avenue on longer wheelbase. LeSabre to remain FWD while Park Avenue would be RWD/AWD. Restyle both cars with bold Buick styling. I would love to see somebody bring back the aggressive sweepspear profile with the "Darrin dip" at the B-pillar. Present car looks too much like a Passat on steroids. Keep Enclave. Cadillac: Keep CTS as it is already a winner, but don't let it rest on its laurels. Make STS closer in size to the 1998-2003 Seville STS. As it is, it looks too much like the CTS. Get rid of FWD DTS as it is an anachronism in today's Cadillac. The new car will be on a large RWD/AWD platform. DTS should be renamed. Low-end DTS replacement will be the DeVille. High-DTS replacement will be the Fleetwood. No compromises. This car should be equal or better than the Lexus LS460 and Mercedes S-Class per luxury and build/material quality. Keep Escalade pretty much as it is. The SLR takes care of the smaller SUV segment. Agree with earlier poster that the XLR has the potential to be a serious performer. Not that the Corvette platform holds it back, but maybe it has its limits. Chevrolet: Kill the HHR. The PT Cruiser is passe and so are its imitations. Per the Impala, Agree with earlier poster - place it on a RWD platform with 3.6 DI engine and keep the V8 for SS model. Styling should be much more Impala-like. Current car looks too much like an Accord on steroids. Low-end car should have four taillamps and be called Bel Air. Fleet special should be Biscayne. Upper end cars will be Impala with six taillamps. Perhaps a luxuriously-trimmed car called the Caprice? Agree with earlier poster about other cars. Should keep the Volt much closer to the original concept. The proposed production car looks like the second coming of the Lumina! Ugh! Should build hybrids of Aveo and Cobalt. Kill the stupid Cruz name. GMC: Kill. Hummer: Kill. Pontiac: Really troubled as what to do with Pontiac. Really feel there should be a new Firebird/Trans Am based on the Camaro and I saw a really nice proposal by somebody at Carlisle this past summer. G3? G5? Get rid of these stupid clones - badge engineering at its worst. Keep Vibe. Wouldn't rename G6 the Grand Am because the name seems tainted. Perhaps Tempest? LeMans would be nice, but hopefully people have forgotten that 1980s Daewoo monstrosity. G8 is an excellent car, but the name sounds too much like a coordinate in "Battleship." Perhaps rename it the Bonneville. Saturn: Another problem child. Evil side says to kill it. Good side says allow it to live selling rebadged Opels. Saab: Sorry, iconoclasts. GM should either sell or kill this division.
Re: . [fintail]
by andre1969 on Thu Oct 02 14:11:10 PDT 2008
Maybe by the late 50s it changed...I don't remember feeling bad behind the wheel of my dad's 60 full sized Ford, nor my 66 Galaxie, and the fintail is comfortable with plenty of room too...and I am not short nor skinny. It definitely improved in the late 50's. I remember sitting in a '56 Chrysler or DeSoto at one of the Carlisle swap meets, and the difference between it and my '57 was like night and day. The '57's seat is much lower, and I think they actually got a lot of complaints about that, but it also goes back much further than the '56 did, so legroom feels better to me. And the steering wheel is at a better angle, with the column being more vertical, so in a head on collision I guess it impales your chest instead of your face! The '56 felt more like an old pickup truck seating position. They made further strides in the late 60's. I remember the steering wheel of my '69 Bonneville being about as big as that of a modern car, rather than those bus/truck sized steering wheels older cars had. And it seemed to be positioned a bit further away from my chest than, say, my '67 Catalina. Or my '68 and '69 Darts. The most recent car I could think of that had a badly placed steering wheel was my '89 Gran Fury. Legroom in that car was excellent, but the steering wheel just seemed a little too close. Scary thought too, considering it had an airbag in it! I imagine it would've been pretty dangerous for some little old lady who had to sit right up against the steering wheel! I've always heard that the '76 Volare/Aspen still had a little Dart/Valiant DNA in them, as opposed to being a truly new from the ground up car. Maybe there's a bit of truth to that, as the seating position felt almost the same, with regards to legroom and the steering column position. Shoulder room was about the same, too. The engine sat further back in the Aspen/Volare and all their offshoots though, so that in turn pushed the transmission further back, making for a bigger hump. I remember reading an old Popular Mechanics review of a 1972 Impala, and one of the testers was complaining about the steering wheel location. So maybe with some cars by that time, it was still an issue. It's been so long since I've been in that era of GM big car though, that I can't remember if it was for me.
Re: Observation at Fall Carlisle... [andre1969]
by grbeck on Wed Oct 08 09:31:08 PDT 2008
Yes, Andre, he wanted $3,995 last year.
Re: Observation at Fall Carlisle... [andre1969]
by grbeck on Wed Oct 08 08:40:27 PDT 2008
I should have bought that 1974 AMC Gremlin, just to remind myself of how good we have it automotive-wise today. But that guy is basically delusional on the price. I guess even that chubby kid from New York didn't bite last fall...
Re: Observation at Fall Carlisle... [andre1969]
by lemko on Wed Oct 08 07:40:56 PDT 2008
That is true. My Park Ave may be ugly, but she's dependable. I'd hate to have to drive my new DTS through the 'hood because my 1991 Fleetwood failed to start.

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