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by rick_e on Thu May 29 11:08:45 PDT 2008

Used the Honda.com web site to send quote requests to ten dealers within 75 miles. All emailed back within 24 hours and I bought today from Don Ayres Honda in Ft. Wayne, Indiana. This is a nice way to buy a car. Cash deal, no trade-in, MSRP $32,845.00 $ 27,239.00 EX-L including $635 destination $ 1,907.73 7% Indiana sales tax $ 1.25 Indiana tire tax $ 149.95 Documentation ----------------- $ 29,296.93 Out-the-door

Re: Target price / lease Denali? [raimu]

by drjmak on Sun Feb 25 15:53:04 PST 2007

the best i could do is $300 over invoice before i include the rebate of $1750. So all in all its 1450 below invoice if u buy. this was on a denali(not xl) with ent. pkg, nav. system, rear camera, heated steering wheel.. did not get 20 inch wheels or automatic runing boards the price is 49,900 before the $1750 rebate.....This is in northern nj. The lease with 1500 down (included in that is first month , reg fees and bank fee) is 748 a month 39 months 12k ayr

help

by drjmak1 on Wed Jan 10 17:23:48 PST 2007

the rv is higher on the GMC? What is a good lease for a gmc or escalde not the xl for 12k ayr with nav, ent, 20 inch wheels pkg,sunroof. Im getting b/w 775-800 thats with nothing down and my taxes rolled into the lease

Workers ponder their options

by rockylee on Sun Sep 17 03:05:41 PDT 2006

Kinda old news, but just in case ya missed it. Buyouts range from $35,000 to $140,000 WAYNE -- Ford Motor Co.'s jittery blue-collar ranks welcomed news Thursday that the automaker will offer more buyouts to thin its factory work force, though many remain fearful about their future. All of Ford's 75,000 hourly workers in the United States will be eligible for at least one of several buyout packages, which range from college tuition payments for themselves or their family members to $140,000 lump-sum payouts. "The way things are right now in the industry, I probably don't stand a chance of retiring with this company anyway," said Felicia Stewart, who works at Ford's Wayne Asssembly Plant where the Focus is built. Stewart, 38, has two teenagers and said she could use help sending them to college. She's considering taking a buyout even though she is years from retirement age. "This would give me a chance at something new," she said. News of the buyout deal reached with the United Auto Workers came a day before Ford planned to lay out details of a restructuring plan that likely will include major job cuts and accelerated plant closings. The buyout packages are tied to length of service and other eligibility factors. They include five options that were offered to UAW Ford hourly workers in some locations in February, during a first round of buyout offers, plus three additional options. Offers include $35,000 payouts that come with full retirement benefits, $140,000 buyouts with no coverage, and include options to pay for up to $100,000 in college or vocational education for workers, their spouses and children. "Our goal is to help our members and their families, and to make sure than any reduction in the work force at Ford takes place on a voluntary basis," said UAW Vice President Bob King, who directs the union's Ford Department. Ford workers will have to sign up for the buyouts by Nov. 27. Ford wants to complete them by Sept. 1, 2007. Some want new start For many workers like Stewart, the plan gives them a better chance at starting a new life outside the factory. They can open businesses, take other jobs or go to school in hopes of launching a new career. Several workers who didn't make the cut in the first round of buyouts said on Thursday they will take the new offers. For many younger workers, the buyouts provide hope that they will be able to keep their jobs as more senior employees opt to leave. "Everybody's hoping they'll take the buyouts and free up space so people like me will have jobs," said David Labon, who has 16 years at Ford. "Everyone's nervous and no one knows what's going to happen. "Even though we're on overtime right now," making the Focus, he said, "we know things can change in a second." Employees getting off their 10-hour morning shifts at the Wayne plant were eager to learn of the deals. Many spent the day at work trying to learn any details they could. Workers feel fearful "I'm a nervous wreck about this," said Angelita Church, who has worked for 10 years at Ford. "If our plant closes, our jobs are gone." Church said even if she takes a buyout, a plant closing would hit hard since she lives in Wayne, home to Wayne Assembly and Ford's Michigan Truck plant. "Half the people in my city have their house for sale or in foreclosure," she said. "I don't know if I'm about to join them." Church gathered in the plant parking lot with some coworkers after work and speculated on their futures with Ford. Tammy Ayres has worked at Ford 12 years and has two children, a 5-year-old and a teenager attending Michigan State University. "Where's Michigan going to go after all this?" she said. "Maybe we're all going to have to move to Mexico where they're building new plants." Rhonda Faulkner, with 16 years at Ford, said she's struggling with whether to take a buyout. She thinks she needs to keep her plant job since she couldn't afford to live on what she's being offered to leave. "If I stay, are they going to put me down to $14 an hour?" she said. "I can't live on that." http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060915/AUTO01/609150367/1148- /AUTO01 Rocky P.S. I knew this day would come for Ford, also and I'm still sad about it. :cry:

Pervasive prejudice...

by mackabee on Wed Feb 22 07:04:08 PST 2006

It's the name of the book that Ian Ayres wrote. It also deals with discrimination towards women and african americans in health care and other endeavors. I have not read the book but may do so after this "heated" discussion. Could it be that women and african americans see the value in their vehicle purchases and stop negotiations sooner than the others that got a "better deal" (read lower price)? :shades: Mackabee

Re: Terry... [jipster] ...... [rroyce10]

by jipster on Wed Feb 22 06:01:08 PST 2006

I gathered from your posts that you had no idea who Ayres was...or cared to. i.e "some writer" "the article"(it was a field study)...and when biancar asked if you had read Ayres you did not answer the question. Nonetheless, you are certainly entitled to question his methodology. But, the fact that he was "not" in the car business would validate the study more, as I'm sure you understand there are certain "biases" that you and anyone in the field of car sales would have. But, I think you are missing the big picture in this thread. Which is there is some race/gender discrimination that exists when purchasing/selling vehilces. And instead of firing the "white" and "African American" men as you suggested...how about training all employees on race/gender sensitivity...so "some" salespeople will look beyond a persons skin color, gender, religion...and treat everyone equally. ;)