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Re: Citi [imidazol97]
by gagrice on Mon Nov 17 07:59:53 PST 2008
The UAW will probably still have Gettlefinger complaining about their overpaid jobs leaving as they have sucked the whale dry. The UAW has lost over half of its members since he has become President. Gettlefinger is hoping his political support will solve the problems. It does not address the facts. No one is buying Big 3 cars. And the truck market is in the toilet. The union’s membership at General Motors, Ford Motor Company and Chrysler has been nearly halved to 139,000 workers in the past three years, and it continues to shrink with every new plant closing. Mr. Gettelfinger, who is 64, wields new political clout in the debate this week in Congress over how to help Detroit survive the worst vehicle market in 15 years. The U.A.W. was instrumental in the pivotal victories in Michigan and Ohio by Barack Obama in the presidential election, and two union loyalists in Michigan, Gov. Jennifer M. Granholm and former Representative David E. Bonior, are members of Mr. Obama’s economic advisory team. For all its political heft, however, Detroit’s labor costs and union contracts will more than likely come under attack in House and Senate hearings. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/business/economy/17uaw.html?ref=business It is not just you and I that think the UAW members and retirees are over compensated. It is the ENTIRE country feels they are.
Re: I was hired !!! [rockylee]
by dtownfb on Fri Nov 14 20:35:16 PST 2008
You don't want to sell DirecTV. you picked up on many of the problems. I read some of the UAW propaganda. I guess the part that upsets me is the US has already lost 1.2 million jobs this year (that's million with an M), This doesn't include all the job layoffs for the month of November. DHL suspends all US operations and lays off over 9,000. Circuit City files bankruptcy. They aren't getting bailouts and these are Americans that are losing their jobs. Pretty much the UAW needs to keep their mouths shut on this issue. Americans are losing their jobs and homes around the country. The last thing they want to hear is a union worker making $78/hour begging for the government to save their company. They are right that people in California don't understand Detroit. But the UAW needs a dose of reality and get out of their bubble in Detroit. It's 2008, no one is guaranteed a job anymore. the head of UAW should demand a meeting with Rick Wagoner and figure out a way to keep GM alive sans government bailout. It's in the workers best interest to keep GM alive. Right now, the votes are not there in Congress to pass a bailout and GM won't last until Jan. 20th. I'm not sure GM can live up to the conditions the lawmakers want to put on a potential bailout anyway.
Re: It's simple really...Unions need to go away! [dallasdude1]
by circlew on Thu Nov 13 18:53:28 PST 2008
If so, that tactic didn't save them from their present condition and no one can blame a UAW/union workforce for Circuit City's woes. That proves nothing because the auto union will go away soon...or at least be a lame duck organization. Regards, OW
Re: It's simple really...Unions need to go away! [steve_]
by dallasdude1 on Thu Nov 13 18:48:43 PST 2008
All the laid off Circuit City workers aren't going to be able to go to the mall and get hired on at Linens 'n Things or Mervyns. Unfortunately thats going to happen and or has a more than reasonable chance of occurring. Didn't Circuit City get rid of their older (better paid employees) and replace them with cheaper new hires? If so, that tactic didn't save them from their present condition and no one can blame a UAW/union workforce for Circuit City's woes.
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by sixfive on Thu Nov 13 08:51:48 PST 2008
O and when the new office tower was built, they were using flushless urinals in the design. Well the unions decided that comcast should use those urinals but never without 40 stories of backup water oriented uruinal pluming just in case they should someday need to flush anyway. O and the entire city can't install the awful flusheless systems for the next 10 years for fear the union would have no one to muscle a 40% premium from.
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by sixfive on Thu Nov 13 08:37:11 PST 2008
Wanna talk about unions: Try and get a event planned in the Philly Convention Center. Wanna build out your office space in center city. It's cost 40% more than non union job of equal quality. And they WILL find out about your non union contractor and they will then picket you. We actaully had the gall to try and hire a non union builder for our space and by the end of the first week the contractor wouldn't do the job. Good thing, the union got to someone and we had to change the GC before he even had a change to quit. It's legalized strongarming AKA rackateering.

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