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We can speculate all we want it is a boondoggle
by gagrice on Fri Nov 07 06:33:59 PST 2008
According to the State website the hoped for figure is: The most recent ridership forecasts for the California High-Speed Train Project estimate between 88 – 117 million passengers annually by 2030 for the entire 800-mile high-speed train network connecting Sacramento, the San Francisco Bay Area, Central Valley, Los Angeles, Orange County, the Inland Empire, and San Diego. How many people can be carried on a high-speed train? Operating “trainsets” will have multiple cars and will be up to 1,300 feet long, depending on the type of train and the market demand. At peak travel times, trains can be lengthened, or trainsets can be connected, to operate as a single train. The high-speed train could be configured in many different ways either to maximize seating, which would provide seating for up to 1,300 passengers or to provide more space per passenger than a conventional airline seat and provide a café area and other amenities, in which case trains could carry around 950 passengers. http://www.cahighspeedrail.ca.gov/faqs/ridership.htm Those numbers mean this train will carry at least 3 times as many as the high speed train on the East Coast. Amtrak claims 3 million per year for Acela Express. My concerns are as follows. The state currently has 304,000 employees. This system claims it will add 450,000 permanent jobs. Was that just a gimmick to get votes. I would say it was. And why should those not benefiting in most of the state be burdened with this tremendous debt? If the cities that want the train and will benefit from the train vote for it. They should pay the bill. Not all the counties that are not in any way going to benefit. The best we can hope for is no one will loan that money to the state with their current financial condition. peer reviews: The FRA and U.C Berkeley studies also produced lower high-speed train ridership
Fit Prices Paid
by fitisgo on Thu Aug 14 19:16:32 PDT 2008
I have bought 3 new 2008 Fit Sport Automatics since December of 2007. The MSRP on each car was the same, $16,705. All were purchased cash (no financing) and no trade-in. The first one (blaze orange) was bought in Lincoln, NE, in Dec of 2007 for $16,322 and no documentation fee, or $200 over Honda's generally recognized "invoice" cost for this car of $16,122. The second (milano red) was bought in Omaha, NE in Mar of 2008 for $16,167. or $45 over invoice, again no documentation or other added fees (except for state sales tax, license, registration, the items you pretty much have to pay in any state). The third (vivid blue) was bought in Lincoln in June 2008, same dealer as the first, for $16,122, or invoice, no doc fees or add-on. In each case I paid anywhere from $383 to $583 UNDER "invoice" (who knows how much the dealers actually pay Honda for the vehicle). The moral of the story is that it is possible to get a good deal on a new Fit, but your chances of doing that appear to be greatly swayed by where you live in the country. It appears Fits are selling for anywhere from MSRP to way higher on both the West and East coasts, due to demand greatly exceeding supply. So if you can buy a Fit in the Midwest (or possibly the Southeast or Southwest) for $500-$2,000 less, it might be worth it to locate and close a deal on a Fit with a Midwest dealer and then go pick up the car there (depending on how far you have to travel). The dealers I bought from were Williamson Honda (Lincoln, NE) and O'Daniel Honda (Omaha, NE) Also, due to the high demand/low supply current situation with Fits, the Kelley Blue Book private party values have shot way up in the last couple months, and are currently $1000-2000 MORE for a like-new used Fit than a brand new one bought from a dealer - go figure.
My Fit is in
by richardb52 on Wed Jul 30 19:47:40 PDT 2008
I just got the call from the dealership that my orange MT sport just arrived. I am paying MSRP plus $670 destination charge plus of course NY state taxes and license and registration fees. I ordered it May 22 and here it is 9 weeks later. I can't believe they charge the west coast more than the east coast when all the FITs come to the west coast from Japan. I already have a new XM radio for it and will be ordering some all weather mats, Dead Pedal and Jazz OEM armrest soon. I am really looking forward to outfitting my fit. Let the fun begin.
Re: AN INTELLIGENT POST ON THE DIESEL BOARD!? [avalon02wh]
by gagrice on Mon Jun 23 05:58:55 PDT 2008
It is unfortunate that when I post "...Most people will not limit themselves to just the VW models. Annual fuel costs for the Jetta diesel is $2132 the Pirus is $1328."..." Not sure your point. You are comparing apples to oranges. Kind of like comparing a Porsche 911 to a Yugo. If you just want to compare MPG the Honda CRX HF was a great little fuel miser. Plus you could drive it on a windy or winding highway with out getting blown off the road with the smallest of wind gusts. I think most would concede the Prius is good city commuter car. It is not the all round vehicle that the Jetta is. Have you spent much time behind the wheel of a VW TDI in the last 5 years? Having driven both there is NO comparison. My 05 Passat Wagon was roomier, more comfortable, solid built and far far better handling under all conditions. With the Jeep you also fudged a bit. You compared the 6 cylinder diesel to the 6 cylinder gas GC. That is hardly a good comparison. The diesel engine in the GC has more torque than the 5.7 L V8 engine. The diesel engine gets 25% better mileage than the V8 using the EPA ratings. Current West Coast diesel $4.85 RUG $4.45 (CA is only 38 cents apart) Jeep Grand Cherokee 2WD 18 city 23 hwy $3637 diesel Jeep Grand Cherokee 2WD 15 city 20 hwy $4450 Regular With the premium of just $1010 for the diesel engine which includes a larger battery, alternator & fuel tank. It will only take 1.24 years to pay off the diesel premium. Find a hybrid that will do that. Just for the record. The people reporting the ACTUAL mileage on the EPA website for the GC diesel paid off the premium in less than a year. All reporting got better than the Estimate from EPA. The gap between diesel and RUG as of 6/16/08 for the US was 61 cents. I imagine that will be closer today when they post. The 70 cent gap is for the East Coast.
Re: Bought 2008 Accord, Sedan, Auto.,LX-P in Orange County, CA [rv99]
by iboughtaccord on Thu May 29 15:28:03 PDT 2008
Hardin Honda 1381 S Auto Center Dr Anaheim, CA 92806 http://www.hardinhonda.com Less than two miles north of Honda Center/Anaheim NHL Mighty Duck Dome Less than four miles east of Disneyland Goodluck2U! "> :)
Got a live one...
by steine13 on Wed May 07 15:36:14 PDT 2008
I particularly love the top right picture. http://lansing.craigslist.org/car/672019177.html Ya gots to wonder how many of these made it past 300k... that's quite a recommendation for this model right there. Regarding the orange Benz: Around that time, Mercedes' came in more standard colors than any other maker... they were quite proud of this... but you didn't necessarily want any of them. The joke was ".. in allen Sanitaerfarben erhaeltlich" -- available in all bathroom hues... German automakers love to charge beaucoup $$$ for any colors that actually look good. Metallic -- extra. Pearl --- even more. "Signalfarben" -- like that Benz: In the 70s, a red car cost extra, too. -Mathias

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