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Re: gagrice [fezo]

by gagrice on Fri Jul 18 09:03:13 PDT 2008

You have to have smart people running the Union. Our Union was told in the 1970s not to invest anymore of the millions in our retirement in Alaska businesses. So they took money and bought several 1000 acres in Indian Wells between Palm Springs and Indio, CA. To date that $13,000,000 has earned over $400,000,000. That is what the UAW needs to survive. Smart management of that windfall cash. I have not seen anything that resembled good management in the UAW in recent years.

Re: steve [cooterbfd]

by gagrice on Fri May 23 16:14:57 PDT 2008

Go easy on the Teamsters. They send me a nice check every month. The Alaska Teamsters have done a much better job of investing my retirement money than the Feds have with their SS joke of a retirement. Local 959 Teamsters Retirement Trust had the foresight to buy up hundreds of acres in Indian Wells CA when it was just worthless desert next to Palm Springs. Last time I checked the resort complex built with our money brought in a return in the neighborhood of $400,000,000. Not all Unions are poorly managed. It helps when the members are active and not sheep.

Re: 3k mile review of 06 Civic EX Sedan, 5MT, w/Navi [psy]

by psy on Tue Feb 14 18:41:59 PST 2006

I wanted to add a bit more about the Civic's Navi. Its a good feature but not a good deal. The Navi works well and is easy to use. The best on the market IMO. Voice activation is so so. Maybe it dosent understand a redneck southern draw. Its easy to see in all but direct sunlight blareing right in on screen. I look forward to useing it for road trips this spring and summer. It does seem to track well and give useable directions. Ive caught it twice screwing up. Once we where in SE Oklahoma and if we had followed it advice we would have heard banjo music and somebody would have been screaming as it would have put us in Delivrance type country. Other time it wigged out, the GPS went way off the HWY and would of had us driving thru a Indian Casino. We had to laugh about a drive thru casino. Ive also caught it lieing about miles to a destnation. Told me it was 28 miles when I know its a solid 52 miles. My one gripe ,, and IMO is a biggy. NO TRIP COMPUTER. No real time mpg, trip mpg and such found in ,, say the Accord unit. I find this insane for Honda to not include this. hell its not even in the hybrid. Hybrid has the junkie dash read outs. Its dosent even get the function like Accord. I find the way Honda packages the navi awful. I can see the Acura line getting fancey suround sound adders and afew other features to set them apart. Come on Honda you brag and brag about how green you are and use it every chance you get. Talk about how the 1.8L engine has valve timings at low load to replicate a 1.5L. Use the green weenie thing to defend yourself for not putting a V8 in the Ridgeline or Pilot... Go on and on about your mpg but no trip computer. All the data is there and you dont put it in a Civic as you brag about it going upscale. So now Im going to go buy a scan guage to do something they SHOULD have done from the start. So in short they did strip the Civics Navi down to bare bones and that makes it not worth the asking price. The audio works very good for a Navi car with 6.5" speakers in it. 6.5" speakers are lame in the back. I will have to change them out. They also rip you on the Sedan. Its xm ready, Now this really dosent bother me. I dodnt like xm. But again its not there if you do want it. I havent used the card slot or the aux imput. I have no use for a ipod or the card reader. Many do and its there if you need it. I have 40 gig of mp3's on cd's in the console,, so Im good. I havent had the cd player skip or mute. Even with wheels reaching the depths of pot holes or leaping speed bumps in a single bound. I have noticed it slow to get the album and track list going for my mp3 disc's. So I will have to upgrade the speakers in the car and buy a scan guage. Speaker upgrade dosent bother me. But the lack of a trip computer and afew other basics in a over priced Navi unit do. Will this turn me off from looking into navi in future car purchase's? No. Will it make me look more into over all feature sets you bet. Will it define a car purchase no. Its nice to have and lets face it It looks great in the dash!!!!

I don't really put the blame on either of them (Unions and Management)

by rockylee on Mon Nov 07 07:04:41 PST 2005

I blame our greedy capatalist society. Our standard of living is much higher than most everyone we compete against. Manufactoring in this country, do to the wage imbalance will not exist if we don't make changes. NAFTA and CAFTA will lower the overall wage of everyone in this country. However it will make "us" more competitive in the labor aspect. "When your neighbor jumps off the cliff, you better follow him" Otherwise your neighbor will beat you in the game called capatalism. Why shouldn't somebody beable to work 40 hours and make a decent living ????. Why does it take both parents to put bread on the table ???? Have any of you thought about the consequences of this mentality ???? We are teaching our youth that money and the many hours it takes to survive, is more important than family time. We have lost our ability to spend time with our wife and kids, and wonder why we have a problem with such high divorce rates, and kids that "parent" themselves. It used to be where it only took one parent to provide for the family, and if the spouse worked outside of the home, it was a bonus. Now it takes 2 just get the basic needs to have a family. What I'm trying to say is, we work actually too much and many lose alot because of it. I expect my President and Congress to restore the values of spending a decent amount of time with family. I unfortunatly think that's been lost. Unions are trying to protect a fair wage, benefits, retirement for the people they represent. Why don't the working class deserve to have a small slice of the pie for doing their part of making a small buisness into a empire. Why is it fair for a CEO to make tens of millions a year, because he has a MBA and knows the "right" people. :confuse: It's like that some of you believe that this is ok. I don't care how successful a CEO is, he/she doesn't deserve $10+ million a yr. while the worker of the Big 3 only makes in the $50's on a 40 hr. week, asks for some decent insurance, and a retirement after 30 or more years for working for a company. If a capatalist society doesn't want to provide this type of work enviroment, then we the majority should get rid of it as a form of government in the U.S.A. !!!! They were arguing this topic on a popular talk show. The host was a devout Capatalist. The caller believes in socialism and lived in socialism for a short time. The caller said he believed socialism was a better overall form of government. He said it's not perfect, but the government protected both worker and company from slave labor competition. He said our system over here protects corporations, if they are willing to off shore their buisness. It was already common sense to me, and feel he made this point to a much larger audience. Some corperations like our form as it is. The ones that want to stay here, can't unless they have a unique product or service. Cars aren't unique, and it will be a matter of time when the Japanese company's feel the affect of capatalism. Like one of you stated in a earlier post. The koreans are booming, and they can do it cheaper than the Japanese. Next will be the Chinese and/or Indians, and they will build it better than the Japanese and Koreans at a significant cheaper price. The net result will be, the Japanese will build their cars somewhere else away from the U.S. to beable to compete. OR they will demand concessions from the U.S. workforce. That may or maynot spring a union on them. Depends if Unions exist or not in the future ????? At somepoint folks some of us will hate living in poverty and their will be a revolt in some scale. It might not happen for many years, but I feel it will happen. I have my opinions, like all of you. I just feel the direction our way of living is facing a "gut check" I don't know the perfect answer for all. I however know what class I am, and it's the majority. You can't put all the blame on the Unions and Management, but also have to hold the Government accountable for letting it get this far. The only way we can do our part is vote for who we think will do the best job. These are just a few of the many domestic issues that face not only our auto industry, and manufacturing, but also the average people of this great country. ;) Rocky

I do!

by lilbluewgn02 on Mon Jun 13 17:49:15 PDT 2005

OK, guys, the Capitol Hill location is the winner...we will be perusing the National Museum of the American Indian...HOW..you ask? Ha Ha Ha i made a joke!!! That is a short walk to dinner from there...Wed. 6/22 at 6PM. HOW will I recognize you HA HA HA; Bob is the one with the helmet and juice is the one with the cat-dog!...see you guys(and gals) soon...Michael already has his dinner order picked out. Man, I'm psyched to finally meet youse guys (sniffle, sniffle). Serge

Re: oh now [nippononly]

by veritasusa on Mon Jun 13 07:32:51 PDT 2005

You say: "that's just sick..." Wrong - THIS is what is sick! From the technical specs page for the Indian Chevrolet Forester: Suspension Front McPherson strut type, independent, coil spring and stabilizer bar Rear Dual link type, independent, coil spring and stabilizer bar Self-levelizer Standard Please note that last line. And WE have to go all the way up to some overpriced LL Bean version to get it! I could just cry . . .