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by m4d_cow on Fri Oct 17 23:15:22 PDT 2008

"In the area that I live where kids with audis and acuras generally drive like they are brain dead, the M6 definitly takes the cake. " Not even close, westgmn. Take a look at what I've seen: Here where I live you'll see at least a couple 18 y.o kids driving Ferrari F360 there. Cake taken already? No, my friend, thats just icing on the cake, these kids drive those Ferraris to.... (brace yourself, barf bucket in hand) .... the local COMMUNITY COLLEGE!!!!!!!! I encountered this baffling sight 2 months ago when I met a client there (who happens to be a staff), of course as the community college is only 3 blocks away from work then this has become a regular view to me. If you havent barfed enough, here's the cherry topping: I asked one of them about the ferrari, he replied: "yeah its my highschool graduation present, cool aint it?" I asked if he's visiting there, he shamelessly replied "No, I go to school here" I asked him if he's kidding me, he gave me a blank stare " Huh, why? Did I say something funny?" Brain-dead? Understatement. Brain-less? Jackpot. Searching for brain:... ... Brain Not Found :P :P :P On the other hand, I once met a 19 y.o who drives an '06 Jaguar XJ. I asked about the car, he said he was given 25k for a car, he worked a bit to add $2k and got himself the Jag. The Jaguar is a CPO, thus theres a 1+2 yr warranty that matches the Camry's. Both cars pull 20 mpg. The Jag needs premium fuel but the free maintenance (that the camry doesnt have) covers the difference. Brain dead? More like a smart shopper to me. 3rd case, I know a friend of my sister's who drive another Ferrari (I think it was an F355). I asked her about the car and she simply said "Just for today" I asked her why a Ferrari, she said "Its the only thing left in the garage, I usually take my dad's Cayenne but he needs it right now" I asked her if she ever felt the cars are too expensive for her, she said "I can ask them to buy me a car but that'll be a waste of their money, so I just drive whatever's in the garage. As long as I dont drive like an idiot I guess I'll be fine" Here's the thing. Like everyone else I agree there's no age limit to a luxury brand or any car for that matter. Additionally, I dont think giving a 100k or even 1 million dollar car to a 16 y.o is a mistake, IF the driver is responsible enough. Whether said driver is responsible or not is something we can decide, we simply cannot pass such judgement. I have personally met a 14 y.o girl who happens to be wiser and more mature than my 30 y.o co-worker. Thats why I dont think the Jaguar kid's parents are making a terrible judgement, however I do think the Ferrari boy's parents are brain dead. Their son is only smart enough to get into a community college and they gave him a Ferrari? Come on.

Re: I'm Back!!!!!! [greanpea68]

by duke23 on Mon Oct 13 19:58:11 PDT 2008

Welcome back, actual car salesman welcome back. If this a growing trend I embrace it most heartily. Let the roots be restored, circle be unbroken, real, I repeat, real sales stories be offerered lest I grow maudlin. Dante Alighieri wrote : "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here " but he was writing about the circles of hell not purgatory. Let's get this forum back to it's former glory. Tia. Discourse, sir discourse. Ps the parrot says ,you know. Ok, it's been ugly in sales so that means a duke really lame joke to tide ( love double entendre's ) us over. So this guy goes to Vegas and loses all of his money and is forced to borrow a nickel to use the restroom. ( yah, I know bathrooms are free in Vegas but work with the joke will you ? ) So his benefactor says's I'm not going to give you a nickel, you 'll just gamble it away. But eventually he has pity, gives him a nickel and the guy goes back and finds the stall open. So he goes in the stall and does his business, comes out and put's the nickel into a nickel machine. Hit's jackpot and put's his money into a dollar machine. Hit's jackpot and put's his money on a craps table. Turns it into half a million and put's his money on a Baccarat table.Turns it into 20 million and goes on the lecture circuit . At the end of the speech he say's " and if I ever find that guy who enabled my fortune, I'll share my net worth with him . " Years go by and one day he delivers the speech and and a hand goes up and a voice cries from the back, it was me, I gave you that nickel to go to the bathroom. And he replies, not you, you idiot, I mean the guy that left the stall open. Worked for that punchline too hard. Hang tough salesmen.

Re: [guss]

by dino001 on Tue Oct 07 10:53:27 PDT 2008

It might, but the dealers would have to waive their "jackpot" mindset and actually agree on set-price scheme (which we know they won't unless they're really desperate to sell anything). Moreover, consumers are not helpful either. They would have to acknowledge that the price posted is one to be charged. How do you retrain people after years of those big cashback deals into believing the price posted is actually the one that will be charged, especially if the competition still keeps running 30% off schemes? Plus, how do you fit low APR financing deals into it if you lower the stickers? I honestly can't see that happening any time soon.

Great Dealer, Great Buy!!

by shneor on Thu Sep 25 09:19:15 PDT 2008

After working for three weeks with the dealer I bought my (unfortunately totalled) 2007 Fit from to no avail, calling a dozen dealerships from LA to Auburn, and an auto broker (who did find me a base manual, but not a color I wanted) I finally hit the jackpot with Stockton Honda, and a salesman named Rick. I was looking for a Base Manual in Tidewater Blue. There were, as it turned out, only 3 in California, but they were being sold way over MSRP. Stockton Honda worked out a 3-way swap, and Rick drove from Stockton to SF to Sacramento to El Cerrito and back to Stockton to get my car, a Base Manual in Tidewater Blue, sold to me at MSRP. That's what I call going above and beyond. What a great dealership! Shneor

Re: [fandiguy]

by dino001 on Thu Sep 25 09:07:15 PDT 2008

It's true, but unit profit can be only compared "in kind", as every product will have its own margins. How many TVs need Best Buy to sell to get the same gross? What are their costs. How much staff do they need to keep per said $10K gross, etc. Comparing unit gross markup on products without context is not very helpful. Also - they sometimes slash prices by half because of the shelf life. Finally - their prices are clear and simple. Car retailers ELECTED to conduct business in "bazaar" style and consumers adjusted. You can't have both - possibilty of a "full pop home run jackpot" comes with dealing with people honestly believing you make 80% on a car prices and wanting that money for themselves. Can't have one without another.

Re: [fandiguy]

by dino001 on Wed Sep 24 05:47:52 PDT 2008

Now do you HONESTLY think after that kind of commitment the mentality of an owner/operator is gonna be anything other than 100% customer satisfaction?? The survival of any dealership relies on repeat guests and referrals. Yes, I do honestly believe that some owners see it in a quite different way. For them first and foremost objective is to recoup the money as quickly as possible, which usually leads to using any means that are legal (or not, in some) to increase profits. You can do that either through "positive" growth (customer satisfaction) or quite opposite, through "single score jackpot" system, which will maximize profit on every single unit regardless of said satisfaction. As far as the "dealer extras" in the f&i office, everything serves a purpose and has value to someone, that's why its offered. Of course, there is some value. Can of "pain sealant", can of "fabric protector", $7/hour for a lot boy to apply it. All grand total of $50 cost. Price tag : $399. Wow, that is some value. Of course there is a profit, its a business not a charity, but people think they're empty products that do nothing but make money for the dealership. Just see above. Profit is a good thing. Adding $50 of cost to increase the final price by $400 is another. Of course, it's a free country, so if somebody wants it, I have no problem with that. For me, piling 2 grand of add-ons on $16K car shifts its price to territory that another product becomes more attractive. If you keep a car 6 years, why wouldn't you want a 6 year warranty? If you're doing a 6 year loan and not putting any $$ down, why wouldn't you want GAP? I may, just not at prices that they are offered in my town. Again - the problem is not in offering of those products - it's in their price (at least in eye of the beholder) and tactics used to push them. There is one thing if a nice F&I guy pulls out a board showing pallete of his products, gives me a speach how valuable they are, I say yes or no and we move on - it's quite another if courtesy of SET every single Corolla and Camry on every single lot within 100 miles has $799 Toyoguard package installed "for my convenience", or if the nice F&I guy starts telling me I HAVE TO buy his warranty to get approved on the loan. See the difference?