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This is a pretty nice vehicle, but I to have had door wiring harness issues were the wires broke of inside the rubber boot. ( out of warranty of course by 358 miles) Now I am having the problem of not starting, and the dealer has told me that I would pay 90 bucks per hour while they tried to find the problem which is intermittent. I am going to clean the battery teminal tomorrow, and see if that does anything. The ignition has always been kind of hard to turn, and sometimes sticks and it must be forced back to the run position. I think the ignition may be the reason that I'm having starting issues with my Torrent. This not starting stuff is really irritating, and the starter is hidden up under the vehicle in a hard to reach position. If cleaning the battery terminals doesn't work, I will attempt to remove the starter to have it tested. Of course everthing that has went wrong was right after the warranty ran out. YeeeHah! Oh yeah I forgot about the heater core leak. $800.00 to replace. If we are all having these same problems, why is there no recalls on this vehicle? Add me to your list of names; R. Vincent Jr., and I bought mine at Foreman Blair Pontiac in Springfield, Ohio.
Murphydog : Your points are, of course, entirely valid. Living on a, relatively, crowded island it's too easy to forget the wide open spaces in the centre of your country........and the distances involved. Building HSR from NYC to LA and from Seattle to Miami would surely attract a couple of thousand tourists and retired folk onto the rails, each year. Of course, the single-trip fare would entail selling off your house and pension fund but hey, that's the price of progress and stress-free scenic travel. :) Yes, high-density to high-density makes sense but blanket coverage never could. I am suitably chastened. As an old boss would say; "Before putting mouth in gear, engage brain". Like the UK, USA has other, more pressing, needs right now. However, our new(ish) coalition government seem to be trying to reverse quite a few of the excesses of 13 years of Socialist, (almost Marxist ?), government and the general population like the idea; even if the unions don't. Gordon Brown has disappeared from public life and Tony Blair is a Special Envoy to the Middle East, (which is quite poetic, really), when he's not earning £millions from lecture tours like the good Socialist he is Your current incumbents appear to have learnt some good lessons from Blair and Brown but I fear you will pay dearly for them - unless BP can be persuaded to pay for everything. Sorry. Couldn't resist. UK runs it's trains as private companies and we struggle; but things are improving. French railways are state-run and heavily subsidised but are generally superb, particularly the TGV expresses. There is something very civilised about sitting in comfort, eating a decent meal whilst watching the scenery glide past at 180mph+. I truly hope that USA gets it's house in order and then builds a couple of HSR lines. You guys deserve nothing less.
Wild, Out Of Control Toyotas? Baloney. Posted Today 11:56 AM by Arthur St. Antoine I cannot sit quietly on the sidelines any longer. This whole Toyota-recalls hoo-ha has morphed into nothing but yet another “crisis” that a ravenous media and 21st Century Americans -- a people who live better and more safely than any humans in history -- have transformed into their panic du jour. This morning I watched a video “report” on CNN.com showing a Toyota owner who drove her Tundra off a rain-slicked road and down a cliff -- and claims she could do nothing to stop the car. The victim appeared on camera with the requisite tears and even the cliché neck brace to bolster her plight. Naturally, the possibility that said driver might in fact be woefully lacking in skills or -- yes, I’ll say it -- even talking on the phone or texting before the crash never arose during the interview. These days, it's always someone else's fault. I was in this business when the same joke of a “problem” hit Audi in the 1980s. Thanks to a few witless drivers and a barrage of breathless, clueless news reports (including, most prominently, a fear-stoking segment on "60 Minutes"), the entire country began treating the Audi 5000 sedan as if it were a four-wheeled Beelzebub. Only years later, after an exhaustive Federal investigation costing millions in taxpayer dollars, did the truth emerge: for whatever reason, Audi owners were stepping on the gas instead of the brakes Did "60 Minutes" do a follow-up piece on that? Of course not. Lest you assume at this stage that I’m a Toyota apologist, let me state my position clearly: 1) Poorly fixed floor mats very possibly did contribute to sudden acceleration or a “stuck throttle” in some Toyotas. Then again, there likely isn’t a brand of car made whose throttle hasn’t been fouled by an errant floor mat on occasion. Car “defects” are part and parcel of creating a machine of such breathtaking complexity. All automakers suffer from them, and 99% of the issues are minor and dealt with swiftly. 2) There very well may be some mechanical issue in the throttle linkages of some Toyotas that causes the gas pedal to bind in some way, even if only slightly. 3) There also may indeed be a software glitch in the brakes of the Prius. My wife drives a 2010 edition, and well before these stories hit the news she’d told me that the brakes “act weird at times -- they can be really jerky” (and, yes, she knows the difference in feel between standard and hybrid-regen brakes). But, of course, they’d always stopped the car. 4) Toyota has completely bungled the handling of this entire affair. True, the company is in a lose-lose situation. Blame Toyota drivers for panicking and slamming on the wrong pedal, and your customer base will tear you down in fury. Conversely, admit to a defect in your cars and you scare potential buyers away -- perhaps for good. Still, Toyota should have owned up and addressed these issues openly and immediately. Instead, as Angus MacKenzie notes in his previous blog, the company has floundered in "feet of clay." 5) I do not believe that Toyota vehicles are poorly designed, dangerous, possessed by Linda Blair, etc. It’s possible that some software or hardware anomaly is causing Toyota gas pedals to behave strangely, resulting in drivers who panic, even slam on the wrong pedal, and crash. 6) I’m concerned that we do not know the full story behind the tragic incident in which a “runaway” 2009 Lexus ES 350 killed everyone aboard -- including an allegedly skilled driver -- last August. The crash simply makes no sense. This is a vehicle that was “out of control” on a SoCal freeway for several minutes -- enough time, in fact, for a passenger to call 911 and ask for help. Are you telling me that said Lexus suffered an absolutely stuck, wide-open throttle, a total failure of the braking system, and also could not be shut down, slowed, or stopped on a freeway with a trained driver at the helm (even crashing obliquely into the guardrail would’ve been preferable to rocketing head-first into an embankment)? Sorry. Doesn’t pass the Baloney Test. Toyota is now in serious trouble -- and in many ways, deservedly so (just how long ago did Toyota execs know of potential throttle issues, anyway?). But the notion that Toyotas are rising up and rocketing uncontrollably across highways, into walls, or off cliffs is nothing but media-fueled twaddle. Step on the correct pedal -- the brakes -- and your vehicle will stop. But if a vehicle hiccups, for whatever reason, and gets wadded up as a result, the fundamental defect is a clueless driver. Those, apparently, a like-minded media has access to in droves. Read more: http://blogs.motortrend.com/66...svqcc
Wild, Out Of Control Toyotas? Baloney. Posted Today 11:56 AM by Arthur St. Antoine I cannot sit quietly on the sidelines any longer. This whole Toyota-recalls hoo-ha has morphed into nothing but yet another “crisis” that a ravenous media and 21st Century Americans -- a people who live better and more safely than any humans in history -- have transformed into their panic du jour. This morning I watched a video “report” on CNN.com showing a Toyota owner who drove her Tundra off a rain-slicked road and down a cliff -- and claims she could do nothing to stop the car. The victim appeared on camera with the requisite tears and even the cliché neck brace to bolster her plight. Naturally, the possibility that said driver might in fact be woefully lacking in skills or -- yes, I’ll say it -- even talking on the phone or texting before the crash never arose during the interview. These days, it's always someone else's fault. I was in this business when the same joke of a “problem” hit Audi in the 1980s. Thanks to a few witless drivers and a barrage of breathless, clueless news reports (including, most prominently, a fear-stoking segment on "60 Minutes"), the entire country began treating the Audi 5000 sedan as if it were a four-wheeled Beelzebub. Only years later, after an exhaustive Federal investigation costing millions in taxpayer dollars, did the truth emerge: for whatever reason, Audi owners were stepping on the gas instead of the brakes Did "60 Minutes" do a follow-up piece on that? Of course not. Lest you assume at this stage that I’m a Toyota apologist, let me state my position clearly: 1) Poorly fixed floor mats very possibly did contribute to sudden acceleration or a “stuck throttle” in some Toyotas. Then again, there likely isn’t a brand of car made whose throttle hasn’t been fouled by an errant floor mat on occasion. Car “defects” are part and parcel of creating a machine of such breathtaking complexity. All automakers suffer from them, and 99% of the issues are minor and dealt with swiftly. 2) There very well may be some mechanical issue in the throttle linkages of some Toyotas that causes the gas pedal to bind in some way, even if only slightly. 3) There also may indeed be a software glitch in the brakes of the Prius. My wife drives a 2010 edition, and well before these stories hit the news she’d told me that the brakes “act weird at times -- they can be really jerky” (and, yes, she knows the difference in feel between standard and hybrid-regen brakes). But, of course, they’d always stopped the car. 4) Toyota has completely bungled the handling of this entire affair. True, the company is in a lose-lose situation. Blame Toyota drivers for panicking and slamming on the wrong pedal, and your customer base will tear you down in fury. Conversely, admit to a defect in your cars and you scare potential buyers away -- perhaps for good. Still, Toyota should have owned up and addressed these issues openly and immediately. Instead, as Angus MacKenzie notes in his previous blog, the company has floundered in "feet of clay." 5) I do not believe that Toyota vehicles are poorly designed, dangerous, possessed by Linda Blair, etc. It’s possible that some software or hardware anomaly is causing Toyota gas pedals to behave strangely, resulting in drivers who panic, even slam on the wrong pedal, and crash. 6) I’m concerned that we do not know the full story behind the tragic incident in which a “runaway” 2009 Lexus ES 350 killed everyone aboard -- including an allegedly skilled driver -- last August. The crash simply makes no sense. This is a vehicle that was “out of control” on a SoCal freeway for several minutes -- enough time, in fact, for a passenger to call 911 and ask for help. Are you telling me that said Lexus suffered an absolutely stuck, wide-open throttle, a total failure of the braking system, and also could not be shut down, slowed, or stopped on a freeway with a trained driver at the helm (even crashing obliquely into the guardrail would’ve been preferable to rocketing head-first into an embankment)? Sorry. Doesn’t pass the Baloney Test. Toyota is now in serious trouble -- and in many ways, deservedly so (just how long ago did Toyota execs know of potential throttle issues, anyway?). But the notion that Toyotas are rising up and rocketing uncontrollably across highways, into walls, or off cliffs is nothing but media-fueled twaddle. Step on the correct pedal -- the brakes -- and your vehicle will stop. But if a vehicle hiccups, for whatever reason, and gets wadded up as a result, the fundamental defect is a clueless driver. Those, apparently, a like-minded media has access to in droves. Read more: http://blogs.motortrend.com/66...svqcc
Carbuy3, The toyota pricing was given me in person at Jone junction in blair. At that time i only stopped into see what type of pricing i would get. During my visit i did not confirm is this was with financing, it is not than i would not buy. I am still waiting for the dealer to call me back to confirm that this price is with 1.9%. if it isnt, i would not pay anything more than $30,000 OTD with financing if they want your business. i have decided to buy the Odyssey EXL w/dvd and nav and the price i got is GREAT. OTD price for this is $31,330. I have confirmed this price 3 times today over the phone and is good till end of april. The only addtional accessory this car has is wheel lock and mud guard. Even i think this price is too good to be true. I plan to purchase this by Friday. If you want please email me your name with phone number and i can give it to the sales rep and see if he wants to offer the same price. email at badtaamiz_2000@hotmail.com and mark the email with "Odyssey pricing URGENT". I can give you the dealer and sales rep name once i purchase it so you have a solid lead and can confirm what i paid. thanks
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