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Re: Gotta vent here.... [imidazol97]

by graphicguy on Thu Apr 30 08:23:14 PDT 2009

Richard....that '66 Grand Prix was a neat car. Guy said it was garaged for it's entire life. Also was honest enough to tell me it was a "driver", not a trailer queen. Looked to be a pretty loaded example (for the time). It had pwer windows, brakes, steering. And, it had factory air. The radio was am/fm with the "wonderbar" option (electronic motor pushed the tuning dial up and down the frequencies until it found a signal). 389 engine with a 4bbl. 3-speed auto on the floor. Not sure of the HP or torque. Bucket seats (if you want to call them that. Chrome everywhere, inside and out. "Slit" tail lights (gotta see them to understand what they looked like). Not sure if it was a real wood dash, but it looked/felt like it. It had a couple of sizable "dings" on either side But, not something that couldn't be fixed relatively easy. It was a cream color exterior. Paint looked original (and in surprisingly good shape). Some wear on trim pieces, but carpet looked good. For a 40+ year old car, it looked great. No bondo that I could ascertain. Panels were all straight. Obviously, tires, belts, battery, exhaust, radiator, etc had been replaced....carb and trans had been rebuilt at one point. But, the owner said everything else was original. Again, don't know enough about these cars to know if he was being totally honest or not. But, it sure looked like he was telling the truth. I have absolutely no idea what it's worth. It sounded like a good deal, but who knows? Not me, that's for certain. Clearly, it intrigued me because it could be had for what I thought was relatively "cheap" based on prices I've seen on old cars in good shape. To drive it, you definitely have to "rethink" how you negotiate turns, give yourself plenty of time to bring it to a stop, and keep it pointed straight. imid....If for nothing else, you could have dropped in to just while away an hour or two to enjoy the gorgeous weather. I lucked out on parking. A guy was pulling out about a 1/4 mile from where the main show was, and I snuck in to park for free (plenty of places that were charging for parking). A friend of mine who works for the Ford plant about a mile or two away said I could have parked their. They had a little shuttle set up that the UAW had sponsored (seems as if the UAW is being "kinder and gentler" these days). The show in Lebanon is even bigger. If you go, you can't miss it. The town itself isn't that big and takes up the whole main drag. I think it's in July, maybe August.

Re: Gotta vent here.... [graphicguy]

by imidazol97 on Wed Apr 29 09:54:59 PDT 2009

>kyfdx...Sharonville.....that'd be the one. ... I go every year (along with the one in Lebanon When is the one in Lebanon? I almost stopped at Sharonville Sunday on way back from visiting a badly ill friend. Sun shining, but I was pretty much drained. Now I wish I'd stopped to see the cars. How was parking?

Re: Gotta vent here.... [kyfdx]

by graphicguy on Wed Apr 29 09:35:10 PDT 2009

kyfdx...Sharonville.....that'd be the one. DId you go? I go every year (along with the one in Lebanon, which combines blues, bbq, and cars...all of my favorites). Sunday was the biggest show I've seen in Sharonville. Lots of good 'ole muscle and some nice customs, too. Plenty of 'vettes and Mustangs. The guy who had the '66 Grand Prix almost hooked me. I got caught up in the moment. After the show, he let me drive it for a little bit...not far...just enough to get a feel for it. Reminds me of how far automobile engineering has come. His was a pristine example in seemingly original condition (but, extremely well maintained). Power steering was a "one finger" affair....not even a hint of road feel. Power breaks were the same....you gave them a press, and you knew something was going on to slow the car, but never sure what that "something" was. Big gobs of torque. He was "asking" $15K for it. But, said he'd take $12K. I know just enough about old iron to make a terrible mistake. So, after returning to the car 3 times, common sense took over and I politely declined. Still have his phone number, though.

XC90 Tires - What to replace with?

by tuck on Mon Dec 29 10:33:36 PST 2008

I am surprised at the bad experiences people mention on OEM tires. I have a 2006 AWD V8 at almost 46,000 miles with the ORIGINAL Michelins running just fine. We are moving back to NH from PA and I'm seriously considering Nokian WR's based on my research to date. I must say that the Michelins have been performed very well in all conditions, but I'm going with the Nokians as I think they are better suited to the 8 feet of snow we get in NH. With respect to the XC90, I love this vehicle. I've owned Ford, GM, Chrysler, Toyota, and VW over the years and I have to say this car has outperformed all. Probably key to this is the dealer support and we will miss Lehman Volvo of York, PA. Unfortunately, Miller in Lebanon NH are a bunch of incompetent crooks. Lovering in Concord is somewhat better, but can be difficult to deal with at times. I'd appreciate any responses on the Nokians and experiences with dealer service in NH / VT / MA.

Version 4.73 - 2008 update (2009 Model Year)

by ocuihs on Fri Dec 19 04:02:34 PST 2008

For a limited time the 2008 update (2009 Model Year) will be offered at a discounted price of $149. (offer valid through 3/15/2009. Subject to change.). This is for Version 4.73 WHITE DVD (USA South DVD). https://store.alpine-usa.com/Hondadvdsales/naviorder.php Note: Fulfillment is handled by Alpine Electronics of America, Inc. I have a 2007 and again I don't need to update since this new version doesn't apply to my area including business and travel purposes. The 4.73 update WHITE DVD (USA South DVD) includes points of interest (POI) and map coverage. US map coverage was expanded to include the following areas: Arizona Yuma California Central Valley - including Fresno, Merced, Modesto and Stockton Humboldt Mammoth Lakes Florida Panama City Hawaii (all cities for the following islands) Hawaii Honolulu Kauai Lanai Maui Molokai Illinois Carbondale Galesburg Urbana-Danville Indiana Bloomington Muncie Iowa Waterloo-Cedar Falls Mississippi Memphis Tupelo Montana Missoula New Hampshire Lebanon New Mexico Las Cruces Ohio Lima Springfield Pennsylvania Southwest Pennsylvania – including Pittsburgh and Washington County Texas Amarillo Beaumont Nacogdoches-Lufkin Texarkana Wichita Falls Utah St. George Vermount Rutland Virginia Emporia Staunton - Waynesboro - Harrisonburg Wisconsin Eau Claire La Crosse Canada Detailed Coverage Areas NOTE: The city names** are not included in the USA South DVD. To obtain coverage for those cities**, you may purchase the Canada DVD. DVDs are not available at your dealer. ALBERTA Beaumont** Calmar** Devon** Fort Saskatchewan** Leduc** Spruce Grove** St Albert** Stony Plain** Strathcona County** Squamish-Lillooet Squamish Whistler Thompson Nicola Kamloops** Central Okanagan Kelowna** Peachland** Okanagan - Similkameen Penticton** Summerland** Frontenanc Frontenac Islands Gatineau Gatineau Muskoka Bracebridge Georgian Bay Gravenhurst Huntsville Lake of Bays Muskoka Lakes Middesex London Ottawa Ottawa Perth Stratford Simcoe Adjala-Tosorontio Barrie Clearview Collingwood Essa Innisfil Midland New Tecumseth Orillia Oro-Medonte Penetanguishene Ramara Severn Springwater Tay Tiny Wasaga Beach Quebec Montreal-Laurentians La Riviere-du-Nord Prévost** St-Colomban** St-Hippolyte** St-Jérôme** Ste-Sophie** Les Laurentides Amherst Arundel Barkmere Brébeuf Huberdeau La Conception La Minerve Labelle Lac-Supérieur Lantier Mont-Tremblant Montcalm St-Faustin – Lac-Carré Ste-Agathe-des-Monts Ste-Lucie-des-Laurentides Val-David Val-des-Lacs Val-Morin Les Pays-d’en-Haut Lac-des-Seize-Îles** Morin-Heights** Piedmont** St-Adolphe-d’Howard** St-Sauveur** Ste-Adele** Ste-Anne-des-Lacs** Ste-Marguerite-Estérel** Wentworth-Nord** Mirabel Mirabel** Quebec La Cote-de-Beaupre Beaupre Boischatel Chateau-Richer L’Ange-Gardien St-Ferreol-les-Neiges St-Joachim St - Louis - de - Gonzague - du - Cap - Tourmente Ste-Anne-de-Beaupre La Jacques-Cartier Fossambault-sur-le-Lac Lac-Beauport Lac-Delage Lac-St-Joseph Ste-Brigitte-de-Laval Ste-Catherine-de-la-Jacques-Cartier Shannon L’Ile-D’Orleans St-Francois St-Jean St-Laurent-de-L’Ile-d’Oreleans St-Pierre-de-L’Ile-d’Orleans Ste-Famille Ste-Petronille Levis Levis Quebec Québec**

2009 Sonata GLS auto

by zornundo on Sat Dec 13 21:47:38 PST 2008

I just purchased a 2009 Sonata GLS I4 auto. Total price before TTL was $16,388 plus $399.75 dealer fees. This is in Lebanon, Tennessee. Couldn't get close to the Fitzmall price, but I'm content. I asked for a quote for the same car from a different dealership and was quoted $17,800 + TTL!! I was floored! The salesman was great and was zero pressure. Overall, I'm as happy as can be about the deal and experience. I just can't figure out how fitzmall can offer at such low rates?