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Buying a New car in Plattsburg.
by scrolllock on Tue Sep 18 07:43:34 PDT 2007
Has anyone looking for a new car done the math on the savings that could be achieved if we just went down to Plattsburg to buy our next new car! Apparently the Canadian Automobile folks have declared they will not honor the warranty. I just asked that I be able to buy an extended warranty and was told that I can only do it after 2 years. The American dealers close to the border are now being told by their big "bosses" that they should stop selling to Canadians! The Canadian Government Border Services folks are on the ball though, they are now offering "pilot" courses in Toronto to accomodate the demand. The APA Automobile Protection Agency is now offering Quotes and services for folks living in Ontario! When are our Quebec and local federal politicians going to wake up! Must they wait until the dollar is at 1.10 US. We pay more for our gas than Americans and we have the 2nd most oil reserves in the world. We pay more for our cars than American and most of them are built in Canada. If a guy like Flaherty can't get his act together, maybe Dion and the Liberals should start supporting changes to meet the needs of the average Canadian. Maybe Dumont should light a fire under Charest and raise the issue. Maybe more Canadians should just not buy when thay know they are getting hosed!!
Jumping in...
by philmo on Fri Nov 17 07:46:57 PST 2006
Given that Subaru is pretty much the unofficial state car of Colorado I had ignored the OB in my quest to replace a 98 Gr. Cherokee. However, in a parking lot the other day off I-70 in Dumont this gorgeous black wagon was sitting next to me though I couldn't quite make out the brand and originally thought it was a Saab 9-5 wagon. When he pulled away I saw that it was, in fact, a new Outback. Okay, that goes on the list! Got home and started checking the specs and am most anxious to get to town for a test drive. This forum has done nothing to diminish the enthusiasm. Thanks for your insights as a lot of these things end up being "Ford vs. Chevy" or "Mac vs. PC" useless rants. I started out wanting the new Ford Edge but early reports are not encouraging. The Mazda CX-7 was a blast to drive but MPG reports are grim. The Murano gets pricey and you know it's gotta get a facelift soon as the design is aging. The Volvo XC70's 71.4 cubic feet of space is well setup but the hatch entry is only 44 inches wide. The swing gate on the RAV4 is just bone-headed -- I'll bet it goes away on the next redesign since Honda and others have managed to design it away. Highlander will be redesigned methinks along the lines of the Murano/Infinity FX35 rolling shoe model but I don't want to wait. Our short list is down to the Escape Hybrid, Hyundai Santa Fe, Edge (pending in-person measurements) and the Outback (pending a look-see later today).
Re: Like your sense of humor... [pat]
by snakeweasel on Wed Jun 21 11:35:10 PDT 2006
Or maybe she is his Margaret Dumont.
Re: A question on option packages [diverdoc]
by psychdoc on Fri Jun 02 21:13:56 PDT 2006
First off, I just wanted to thank you for the kind words about this great forum. I'm sure everyone else appreciates your sentiments about the overall quality of posts here. Now, about those pesky "packages." You are right, their nomenclature leaves a great deal to be desired (i.e. "ultra luxury package" sound as if Margaret Dumont should be saying that in a Marx Brothers movie). And yes, some of the bundled features are things that you could easily live without. For the most part, however, I think it's fair to say that there are more people out there who bought lower end packages and then missed the additional features after the purchase than the opposite. Most of us here are gadget freaks to one extent or another. If we weren't we'd be driving Ford 500's. I'm about to take delivery on the UL ("ultra luxury") package early next week (in ruby red/black) and can't wait to play with the myriad features the car has. Ultimately this is a personal decision, however. As to Lexus' motivation in doing it this way (and they have for a while now, with [as you point out] considerable success) I believe it makes manufacturing a great deal easier. Essentially they're only building 2-3 variations of this car. M-B and BMW do allow you to select individual options but the reality is that you are going to be heavily pressured to take what they have coming in. If you really push for a custom ordered car, expect to pay sticker and wait three months for delivery. Now, on to the cars you're considering: BMW 3 series - Nice little car. Not in the same league as the ES350. As with all bimmers, very overpriced. It will, however hold it's value nicely. Not as well as the ES, but close. Spartan interior and primitive nav system (I absolutely adore nav systems so this is of critical importance to me). Bells and whistles? Forget it. Just a very nice driving little sports sedan. Acura TL - Really a quite significant step down from an ES 350. Bland looking and a bit harsh riding. Wonderful engine and great steering, braking and transmission. Good value though it'll depreciate pretty rapidly a year or two out. It's due for a major renovation in the next year or two so that will not help resale value. Audi A4 - Great little car. Again the nav system is primitive and the ride a bit harsh, but a very nice little car. Quatro is a nice feature to have if you live somewhere that gets a lot of snow. Resale should be pretty good. Great bang for the buck and typical gorgeous Audi interior. Exterior is handsome and refined if not terribly exciting. Many people either love or hate the new grill treatment. You have to see for yourself. M-B 230/280 - Don't even think this. Awful in pretty much every respect. Small, cramped, underpowered, overpriced, prone to breakdowns, ridiculous control layout and, to add insult to injury, typically Germanic horrible, primitive nav system. Depreciates like a rock falling off a cliff. You'd be better off with a Yugo. ;) Hope this helps a bit. Let us know what you decide to do.
Re: A Korean threat? [dumont]
by bdr127 on Thu Sep 29 13:52:04 PDT 2005
Yikes! I guess we were both right! :P
Re: A Korean threat? [bdr127]
by dumont on Thu Sep 29 13:18:29 PDT 2005
Yeah Suzuki is Japanese but a few (all??) of their cars are built in Korea and funny thing you mention Daewoo, some of Suzuki's cars are originally Daewoos see here for example http://cars.about.com/cs/testdrives/fr/Suzuverona_test.htm Dumont 05 Acura TL AT Navi

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