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Re: Delphi request would end benefits for salaried retirees [dieselone]
by andre1969 on Fri Feb 27 06:53:06 PST 2009
That's not what I remember and I'm probably 8 - 10 years older than you. My grandpa was a 40 year union employee of the steel mills in Gary, In. He never had more than one car and always kept them 5+ years. My FIL, also a 30 year employee of the steel mills has only bought two new cars ever. He's still driving a '95 Tahoe. My grandparents on my Dad's side usually bought a brand-new car every 3-4 years, but it was never anything all that extravagant. Their first car was actually a used 1949 Ford, but then they bought a very well-equipped '57 Ford Fairlane 500 4-door hardtop. It was around $3500, and adjusted for inflation, probably the most expensive car they ever owned. It was followed by a '61 Galaxie and a '63 Mercury Monterrey, and each of them was around $3500, as well. After that, they went to smaller cars. First a '66-67 Tempest hardtop coupe, then a '71. Then a '75 Dart Swinger, followed by a '77 Granada, '81 Granada, 85 LTD, 89 Taurus LX, and finally a '94 Taurus GL. Both Grandmom and Granddad worked, so none of this Leave-it-to-Beaver stay-at-home-Mom mythology for our family! When Granddad retired in 1974, he was making $6.00 per hour. I dunno what Grandmom made when she finally retired. On my Mom's side of the family, they always had two or more vehicles...a car for Grandmom, a truck for Granddad, and usually some spare beater that Granddad picked up for little or nothing. Again though, it was never anything extravagant. The most expensive vehicle they ever had, when you account for inflation, was probably a '76 GMC 3/4 ton crew cab pickup. It was around $8,000 new. The last car they bought was also the most luxurious...a 1985 LeSabre Limited, almost fully loaded, for around $16,200. First car they ever had with power windows, seat, locks, etc. The last truck they bought was a 1985 Silverado, for around $13,500. For the most part, they just had mainstream, run-of-the-mill cars. It's not like they were farmers, hospital workers, and railroad workers driving around in a brand-new Cadillac every two years. I also had a 75 Buick Regal coupe with a 350. I remember when my Grandpa gave it to me in '87. He was so proud he had gotten 120k miles out of it. Boy was that a beaut. 150 or so HP and 4000lbs, 15mpg at best, maybe 11 second 0-60. My Mom bought a 1975 Pontiac LeMans coupe, brand-new, for around $5,000. I remember the car was pretty tired by 1980, when she traded it on a new Malibu coupe. It wasn't rusting yet, and thankfully didn't have a vinyl top to peel, but I just remember it getting hard to start, not driving very well, and Mom was complaining about its fuel economy. In the car's defense though, Dad wrecked it in 1977, and even though it got fixed, it just never ran right. Interestingly, the '76 Grand LeMans I have now is probably in better shape at 33 years old, than Mom's '75 was at 5! I remember last year, my Mom saw my '76 LeMans, took a good look at it, and with a confused look on her face asked, "was my '75 really that big?! I can't believe I used to drive a car that big!" Which I don't fully comprehend, because she and my stepdad have a 2002 F-150 and a 1998 Expedition! They also have two Altimas, a '99 and an '08 though, and that's what they mainly drive. I guess those old cars can seem kind of intimidating though, with the long hood. With a pickup truck, you sit up towards the front of the vehicle, so it doesn't necessarily feel so big, as long as you forget about all that mass behind you!
Re: Hey, andre1969... [lemko]
by andre1969 on Thu Feb 19 07:11:07 PST 2009
Did wife swappers drive Swingers? Dunno...my grandparents on my Dad's side of the family had a '75 Swinger. They never seemed the type to do something like that, although I've heard that Grandmom could be a bit of a flirt back in the day. Dunno how true this is, but I heard that when it was in its planning stages, Mopar marketing was actually thinking about calling the Demon the Beaver! And they even had a little cartoon character worked up for it! I can just imagine all the double entendres a name like that would have created. "Hey, I just got a new Beaver! Want to go for a ride with me?"
Re: Paging Jim Rockford> [andys120]
by andre1969 on Sun Jun 08 10:25:44 PDT 2008
Good Lord, I'm hearing the "Universal Telephone ring" right now...the same one they've used since probably before "Leave it to Beaver", and seems to get more warbled with age! I know most people consider cars to have gotten uglier looking as the 70's went on, but I've always thought the '77-78 Firebiird/TA was pretty attractive. I didn't really care so much for the '79-81, the one where the grille openings were down in the bumper.
Re: 1959 DeSoto Firedome 4-door sedan... [magnette]
by andre1969 on Sat May 17 12:53:30 PDT 2008
So I'm guessing that "Beaver" is slang for the same thing in the UK that it is here in the United States? Anyway, here's a screen capture of the '59 from "Leave it to Beaver".
1959 DeSoto Firedome 4-door sedan...
by andre1969 on Sat May 17 06:40:49 PDT 2008
spotted outside my mechanic's shop. I fired up my '79 NYer this morning and took it for a drive. It's been sitting for over a week now, so I figured I'd blow the cobwebs off. And literally, I had to remove a spider's web from it. I was kinda curious to see if the mechanic was keeping my Intrepid indoors, or at least secured somewhere, so I figured I'd actually drive somewhere, rather than just around the block. Well, parked out in front was this ratty DeSoto. It looked like it had been a light blue originally, but was so faded that it was mostly the hue of that pinkish primer they used to use back in those days. The poor thing was really a parts car, at best. Holes in the rear quarter panels. One of the rear doors was smashed. Gaping holes in the floorboards. Interior looked like a rats nest. I'd guess the other three doors, hood, trunklid, and upper part of the bumper/grille (the part with the twin openings), possibly the front fenders, and a lot of minor trim pieces were still salvageable. Still, it was kinda cool to see the old beast. I can't remember the last time I've seen a DeSoto, other than my own, outside of a car show. Heck, even TVLand cuts the closing credits of "Leave it to Beaver" now, so you can't even see that one anymore!
Bits and pieces....
by andys120 on Mon Apr 14 23:20:35 PDT 2008
...of three different cars are in this still from Leave It To Beaver (1957-'63)>

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