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They can prove it. The important facet here is all of the other manufacturers who have stepped up to the plate and have licensed their products correctly. Why does Ashland (Valvoline) state here that they meet the specs, and in the other article that I linked clearly admit that the dexos requirements are a significant change from the API and ILSAC ratings? It's still in litigation, so to say that they can prove it is not entirely proven yet. Once it is finalized, only then will anyone be able to say for sure. Proving it and satisfying the FTC is also 2 different things. As in any court case, proving and winning doesn't always go hand in hand. I'm also curious to know. Who refines the manufacturer's oil for them? And it's back to that case for the aftermarket being allowed to get the specs to be able to make the product. On the flip side of that, let's assume that an oil does meet the specs of a certain product. That may not always be the correct product. Just meeting the specs is not always correct. Extra additives can also create problems. And before you argue that fact, an example is Gunite/Haldex specifies specific rated grease in their brake parts for heavy trucks and while most greases meet those specs, there are those with moly additives in them, that will destroy some of those brake parts.

Here's Ashland Oil's "partial" Comment; Quote; "Valvoline already meets all the requirements of the dexosTM2 specification with our SynPower MST 5W-30 . Valvoline began introducing oils meeting the dexosTM1 specification in October 2010 SN and ILSAC GF-5. . GM is taking the unusual step of charging a very significant fee for licensing, an unwarranted cost increase to owners of GM vehicles. Valvoline has decided that we do not want to be a part of this." PS, this quote was edited for brevity. valvoline, a division of ashland inc. RE: GM dexos specification

WOW, it seems like every week I find some new data that is surprising. I "thought' you were referring to DexCool, until I googled it. Here's GM's official List of Dexos-1 Gasoline Approved Oils and Dexos-2 Diesel Approved Oils licensed GM Dexos™ products Quote From GM "Specifically designed to meet the needs of GM gasoline engines, dexos1™: * has improved viscometric properties, creating less friction in the engine which contributes to improved fuel economy. * resists aeration, which enables fuel-saving devices, such as Variable Valve Timing, to work optimally * offers improved oxidation and deposit-forming tendencies allowing emission systems to operate longer and optimally * resists degradation between oil changes, extending the time and mileage interval between oil changes" end quote I knew Ford had mandated change intervals at a frequent rate for the VVT assembly to stay free and working, GM added some "Legalese" to the wording to "help [Confuse] us As far as Ashland Oil and BP, "we" the untouchables will never be included in the upper echelon scum that knows who is or who isn't in "The Group" Maybe that BP is excluded from the "Good-ol-Boys" group due to their corp hdqrs are in the "Motherland. Ashland Oil is based in KY, maybe they were bought out like so many companies lately by the Chinese [j/k, but really WHO knows for sure] Rusty Wrench"

Seems like a pretty good assumption. "Jim Vitak, Manager, Public Relations, Ashland Inc., told OEM/Lube News "Valvoline does not plan to license dexos™ for these products in order to minimize the cost impact to customers who would be replacing GF-4 motor oils with dexos™ motor oils. This will apply to our full motor oil line." imakenews.com "We strive to efficiently manage cost and complexity to keep our customers as competitive as possible in the marketplace,” Chevron said in a statement to Lube Report. “The additional costs of the Dexos 1 licensing and the added potential complexity of carmakers making separate decisions on product formulations were key decision factors for Chevron.” imakenews.com I should be following something other than the money? (Gotta run to the super; haven't found a BP/Castro link yet).

I assume Ashland and BP and the rest don't want to pay a licensing fee to GM. As a consumer, I want to go to the big box store and pick out what's on sale. Right now that means something with the Starburst certification on the bottle. And I'd rather the standards be set by the American Petroleum Institute, not by each individual car company. I'm not a tribologist. Ford told the SAE and others that 5W-20 with the APC certification was recommended for '06 models (pdf file). Something changed since then?