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Re: poor mpgs [mazdanut]
by zoom_oh_2002p5 on Sat Nov 21 08:11:24 PST 2009
Do you really like the lines of the M3 better than the MP5? I just love the MP5 design. I can tolerate the M3 lines because of the continuous performance improvement. I'm getting near retirement and looking at the M6 wagon which has the MP5 design profile and a softer suspension, more room in the front and back (although the rear seats in the MP5 have more room than the larger M6 wagon). Can you figure why Mazda is holding back on availability for the 2010 M6 wagon? ZOOM OH Bruce of Canton
Re: poor mpgs [iamz]
by zoom_oh_2002p5 on Sat Nov 21 08:06:46 PST 2009
When did you replace your timing chain? Older Protege's needed to be changed at 65,000 miles. I hear 105,000 is ok for 2002 forward. ZOOM OH Bruce of Canton
Re: poor mpgs [iamz]
by zoom_oh_2002p5 on Sat Nov 21 08:03:26 PST 2009
I concur. I was new product develop manager for Fram for 5 years, and the K and N delivers performance at a cost in engine wear. For performance/fun people who will turn a car over to get the latest technology and ZOOM, the K and N makes sense. They know what they are doing, to deliver performance and fun. ZOOM OHIO Bruce of Canton
Fun to drive great mileage...27-30 MPG [tsowards]
by zoom_oh_2002p5 on Sat Nov 21 07:56:56 PST 2009
On a 13 hour trip to Vermont from Ohio, I got 34 mpg one way. One way was climbing, the other, going down. The down run gave me the unbelievable mileage. I get a boost when I use Chevron fuel injector cleaner, or super high test gas. The cost per mile does not improve using the super high test, but it is a challenge to post the highest mpg. I always get a boost in miles per gallon when I put in new plugs, which has a good payback. I enjoy driving the Protege5 so much that I can't wait to drive to work and home. When I had an Austin Healy 3000 in 1968, I was hooked on that car so much I drove an hour and a half after dinner every night. Part of that mystique was that prior to that time, I was on assignment to drive a mobile 50 foot tractor trailer classroom and went from San Francisco to San Diego across the southern U.S. to Cape Canaveral, than then north to Pittsburgh and Chicago. 25,000 miles in 14 months. I got hooked on road joy. Driving is an end in itself, and it is great to be able to use a utilitarian necessity for pleasure. Clutchless shifting is a joy with the ZF transmission (I bought the MP5 by special order the first week Mazda produced with ZF clutchless shifting transmission, side impact bags, and sun roof. Aside from the rear wheel well and door bottom rust emerging, the car is sound, and I am staying on top of the rust with polishing compound and wax. I have 72,000 miles on the car, and will probably invest heavily in eliminating the rust cancer and rust proofing so I can drive the car into the ground. I've had Toyota Cressida, Dodge Maxivan, Olds Bravada, Volvo Wagon that I took to 225,000 miles before SELLING, with the Bravada sold to a friend and still running at 140,000 miles. A useful and family fun vehicle becomes an old friend, and it is tough to let them go. My wife has had four Miatas. We currently have a lightly driven 3rd car '99 Miata with 36,000 miles on it. It is a psychological "being cool" boost for my dear Polly (64). Her license plate is ZZ MIATA, mine ZOOM OH (OHIO). Yes we are committed to the Zoom Zoom experience. We have had some lighting replacement annoyance with the Protege, but otherwise we replace brake pads, rotors, and filters with oil changes and that is about it. You will buy a Mazda if you test drive one. Try a RX-8 which is a really impressive piece of engineering and design, and a machine you "want to be seen in" and you then drive a Miata, and the Miata wins hands down. Emotion overrides every time. If you love to drive, you pick the car that is most fun to drive. Mazda has the formula down. Drive a Volvo or Focus equivalent which is the same set of hardware, but different performance objectives, and the Mazda will always win. The Mazda product people are passionate in their development and they listen to their fans. Zoom Zoom Zoom. Bruce of Canton Ohio
Nissan reliability in general
by averagecarguy on Sun Oct 25 08:17:57 PDT 2009
First - regarding the original poster - reliability is graded D by whom? And for which model or models? I guess I could just as easily say they are rated A or B? or F? Next - 2004 Canton built vehicles - Quest, Titan, Armada (and it's twin Infiniti QX56) - all had more than their fair share of problems. In my view (and I've worked with Nissan for over 15 years), they were asking for trouble there. Building three brand new vehicles, in a brand new plant, staffed with people that had never built cars before. Considering the deck stacked against them, it should be said that it's good that more vehicles that year did not have problems. That plant's products have improved in quality every year since. Every manufacturer (Including Toyota and Honda) has problems. Every manufacturer (Including Nissan and Chrysler) builds vehicles that run like a clock. They also build a lot that fall in between. My gauge of long-term reliability has always been Consumer Reports ratings. Not the written articles, which present the particular bias of the author, but the ratings of the owners themselves which show problems in several areas of the vehicle. Pick up any of the specialty automotive CR magazines provided throughout the year, or pick up the April automotive edition and flip to the "Reliability Ratings" section. Just flip through the pages. Lots of red - good long term reliability. Lots of black - not so much. You'll see that the above three vehicles have created the largest issue with Nissan's longer term reliability. Remove that history and things aren't as bleak as painted above. Generally speaking - the Asian brands (especially the big three) typically offer better long-term reliability than either domestic or European brands. And Hyundai is making great strides. If you lease or buy every two or three years, you'll be fine with most anything. If you keep your cars longer, check out those reliability ratings.
Re: looking for a CARGO van [grumpyoldguy]
by steve_ on Thu Oct 01 16:48:17 PDT 2009
I missed the concept stuff last year, so this is new to me. Looks like it's possible that Nissan could start making them in Canton next year. NY Times They may wait as long as they can to see how the Ford Transit does.

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