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Re: Tailgaters... [redmaxx]

by the_big_al on Fri Jun 27 16:16:56 PDT 2008

lol that's true... from the 202 interchange construction to the east to the now widening project that is going from Gil bert east... yes it is a mess. The 202 is a much better alternative at all part of the day even with rush hour slow and go... Actually I used to have to go from N. Phx Cave Creek area to Mesa almost daily. The best route I found was the 101 to the 51, then S to the 202 and then to the 101 S to the 60. The 60 between the 101 and Gilbert rd wasn't too bad and thankfully I lived just off Gilbert so that is where I got off... I don't live there anymore and grateful I don't have to deal Phx traffic anymore... Gotta run.. fussy daughter

Re: My Take [lemko]

by andre1969 on Tue Mar 04 06:52:29 PST 2008

One of the things that led to Chrysler's deterioration in quality was their purchase of Briggs. Briggs bodies were so durable and rust resistant that you could see a 1950 Plymouth sitting in the woods for decades and the body would largely still be intact. On the other hand, a 1957 Plymouth body would be lucky to make it through two winters without showing significant rust. That's been my experience, at least from the junkyard trips I've taken. There's a junkyard down south of Culpeper, VA, called Leon's, that's about 100 acres, been open since about 1963, and a lot of his cars have been in there since he opened! Last time I was down there was 1997. He did start crushing cars around 1994 when he ran on financial problems, but for awhile land was so cheap that if they ran out of space, they'd just buy up adjoining farmland! Anyway, as an example of how things changed for Mopar, there's a '51-52 DeSoto hardtop coupe next to a '58 Firedome hardtop coupe. The '51-52 still had a front tag that dated to 1962. I have no idea how long it had been in the junkyard, but judging from the trees growing up around it, easily decades. Plus, it was in a low area of the junkyard near a creek that tended to stay damp. Still, that car looked like it had plenty of salvageable sheetmetal, and if someone really wanted to restore it, it might even make a good shell. In contrast, the '58 parked next to it was collapsing upon itself as the rear quarter panels rusted and caved in. The front clip wasn't too bad as I recall, probably saved because the car still had its front tires on it, and the engine had been removed, so it was sitting high up front. All throughout that junkyard, there were 1949-54 Mopars that looked almost rust-free. Now, I'm sure they were rusted out underneath, where you couldn't easily see, from sitting around for decades, but on the surface they looked good. In contrast, the '55-56 models in that junkyard showed a decline. No worse than any Ford or GM product of the same vintage in that yard, but still not as tank-like as the '49-54 models. Now the '57-58 models were, by and large, like that '58 Firedome I mentioned above. Just about ready to return to Mother Earth. Oddly though, the '59 models seemed like they had held up better. I heard that Chrysler actually did improve the quality of the '58 models over the '57, and then the '59 models were improved even further. I don't know how much of an indication this is, but when I was in the National DeSoto club, I remember looking at the club roster, and as I recall there were as many '59 DeSotos in it as there were '57's. Very few '58's. As for total production, DeSoto built about 117K cars in 1957, 49K in 1958, and 46K in 1959. So either there's something about a '59 DeSoto that makes people lust after it more nowadays, or they really were built better enough that more of them survived than the much more popular-when-new 1957. Another thing I noticed that was a bit odd, was that there were a good number of unitized 1960-64 Mopars in that junkyard. For the most part, they looked like they had held up much better than the body-on-frame '57-59 models. So I'm wondering if that was an indication that Mopar really started getting their act together with the '60 models? I figured that being unitized, the rust would have gotten to them sooner, but perhaps the rustproofing measures they took really were better?

Re: VW TDI place 1 & 2 in class [gagrice]

by gagrice on Tue Jul 10 17:28:49 PDT 2007

Not a Toyota in the bunch. Just won't take the abuse I guess. Honda is well represented in ATV & motorcycles. Top twenty finishers in the race. The VWs were racing against some big time racing iron. Not for lightweight wienie trucks. 1. Larry Ragland, Cave Creek, Ariz./Brian Collins, Las Vegas, Chevy Silverado, 9 hours, 10 minutes, 58 seconds (46.20miles per hour) (SCORE Trophy-Truck) 2. Robby Gordon, Mooresville, N.C., Chevy CK1500, 955 (45.87mph) (SCORE Trophy-Truck) 3. B.J. Baldwin, Las Vegas, Chevy Silverado, 932 (45.65mph) (SCORE Trophy-Truck) 4. Mark Post, Laguna Beach, Calif./Rob MacCachren, Las Vegas, Ford F-150, 930 (45.01mph) (SCORE Trophy-Truck) 5. Josh Baldwin, Newport Beach, Calif., Ford F-150, 917 (44.17mph) (SCORE Trophy-Truck) 6. David Scaroni/Matt Scaroni, Heber, Calif., Ford F-150, 950 (43.30mph) (SCORE Trophy-Truck) 7. Garron Cadiente, Mesa, Ariz., Ford F-150, 940 (43.24mph) (SCORE Trophy-Truck) 8. Todd Wyllie, New River, Ariz., Chevy C1500, 934 (42.74mph) (SCORE Trophy-Truck) 9. Gus Vildosola/Gus Vildosola Jr., Mexicali, Mexico, Ford F-150, 900 (42.56mph) (SCORE Trophy) 10. B.J. Richardson/John Gaughan, Las Vegas, Bunderson-Chevy, 930 (42.46mph) (Class 1) 11. Mark Miller, Carefree, Ariz., VW Touareg, 1038 (42.38mph) (SCORE Int’l Truck) 12. Chuck Hovey, Escondido, Calif., Jimco-Chevy, 1027 (42.04mph) (Class 1) 13. Gary Weyhrich/Mark Weyhrich, Troutdale, Ore., Jimco-Chevy, 1032 (42.03mph) (Class 1) 14. Alan Pflueger, Honolulu/Ricky Johnson, Encinitas, Calif., Chevy Silverado, 1029 (41.97mph) (SCORE Trophy-Truck) 15. Darren Hardesty, Ramona, Calif./Mark Randazzo, Poway, Calif., AlumiCraft-VW, 1050 (41.94mph) (Class 1) 16. Armin Schwarz, Austria/Matthias Kahle, Germany, Jimco-BMW, 1030 (41.25mph) (Class 1) 17. Luis Ramirez Jr., Cabo San Lucas, Mexico/Jim Mihal, La Paz, Mexico, Porter-Chevy, 1015 (41.30mph) (Class 1) 18. Giniel De Villers, South Africa, VW Touareg, 1044 (41.14mph) (SCORE Int’l Truck) 19. Bill Gasper, Chino Hills, Calif./Dave Gasper, Goleta, Calif., Porter-Chevy, 1005 (40.98mph) (Class 1) 20. Max Thieriot/Cam Theriot, Petaluma, Calif./Glenn Harris, Camarillo, Calif., RPS-Chevy, 1024 (40.57mph) (Class 1) Race results

Re: And no matter how much the goons charge [iluvmysephia1]

by gagrice on Thu Apr 19 06:12:33 PDT 2007

How do you keep track of your mileage without filling the tank? Filled the wife's LS400 yesterday at Costco. $3.39 for 91 octane. The ARCO across the street had jumped to $3.51 for Premium. Costco does not charge a 45 cent fee for using a debit card like most the the other stations. Have you explored Cave Creek Canyon and the Chiricahuas yet? I would like to do that next trip that direction.

Hey Bob

by discoman on Thu Apr 14 16:33:09 PDT 2005

Guess what? That old wierd problem came back with the new battery too. I caved and took it to LR. Turns out I have a bad Alternator and the Computer (Not ECU) are bad. That, plus the gas tank replacement. Did you ever call your dealer about yours. I know all 96's are included in the recall. Don't know if all 97-99 are too. I know some of them are.

Internet quotes

by antzman on Sun Jul 08 11:05:18 PDT 2001

I took a suggestion from a post earlier in this group about using the Ford web page to get quotes from different dealers. We have five Ford dealers in the metro Phoenix area, and I sent of identical requests to each dealer, for an EB with the 3rd seat, V6, and rear AC. It was interesting to see what each one sent back, as each response was completely different. I had one group say that for quotes from the internet, they will do $1 over dealer invoice, but of course they did not give me that invoice price! 2 other dealers came back with Explorers in their stock that were no where near what I had requested. Another came back with the highest MSRP I have seen anywhere for the vehicle that I requested, almost $2000 over what the Ford web page even had. And the fifth, I have not heard from, yet I have received emails from Ford asking me to give them my opinions on what I have received. Very interesting stuff. My main intrigue is for the dealer who claims to offer the $1 over dealer invoice.