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Cap n Trade through the back door. [gagrice]
by gagrice on Thu Dec 03 14:05:12 PST 2009
Not only is CO2 a pollutant. It is now a very dangerous pollutant. Meaning a tax on each breath you exhale should be in order. Carbon dioxide is likely to be declared a dangerous pollutant - a move that could help propel slow-moving climate-change legislation on Capitol Hill, the head of the Environmental Protection Agency said Monday. EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson told reporters that a formal "endangerment finding," which would trigger federal regulations on greenhouse gas emissions, probably would "happen in the next months." Jackson announced her timeline even as top senators said they were delaying plans to introduce legislation that would set new limits on carbon dioxide emissions. EPA scientists believe the greenhouse gases contribute to global warming by trapping heat in the Earth's atmosphere. The EPA can formalize the finding anytime, now that it has closed a 60-day public comment period that netted more than 300,000 responses. A formal endangerment finding would obligate the agency to regulate greenhouse gas pollution under the Clean Air Act - even if Congress doesn't pass a final climate-change bill. But Jackson insisted the EPA would continue on a path that began when the Supreme Court ruled in 2007 that greenhouse gases qualified as pollutants and could be regulated if the government determined they threatened the public. "Two years is a long time for this country to wait for us to respond to the Supreme Court's ruling," Jackson said. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/31/MNM219GIJD.DTL For those that think the EPA can do no wrong. Think about that kind of power to control our lives.
Where'd they go?
by steve_ on Thu Dec 03 12:51:21 PST 2009
To lobby Congress.... "General Motors said Thursday it will reconsider its decision to close some dealerships as part of a compromise to stave off federal legislation that would require it to keep dealerships open." GM agrees to reconsider dealership closings (MSNBC)
Re: hmmmm......... [fintail]
by larsb on Thu Dec 03 11:33:31 PST 2009
Our entire congressional budgeting system is corrupt and wasteful. Nothing short of revolution will repair that. So there is no reason whining about it, other than to make ourselves feel smart that we know it's going on. And until we know better, clean air and water and a less polluting infrastructure is nothing but GOOD. Should the money be spent wisely? Sure. Run for Congress and make it so.
Re: hmmmm......... [larsb]
by fintail on Thu Dec 03 11:15:20 PST 2009
So because previous schemes have been wasteful, we should just lay back and expect this to be wasteful too? Seriously, can it be proven that benefits outweigh the costs? This is being asked on a level higher than what any congress can comprehend, this is weighing impacts on the entire developed world. Most congresspeople can't see outside of their county. I don't see any evidence that benefits exceed costs.
Re: hmmmm......... [fintail]
by larsb on Thu Dec 03 10:10:22 PST 2009
The day that any Congress starts applying the "do the benefits outweigh the costs?" analysis in a meaningful, unbiased manner, to ANY issue, let me know, unKay?
Re: Poor Little Rich Suburbanites [fintail]
by steve_ on Wed Dec 02 19:18:38 PST 2009
They'd be too busy playing learning how to play Nintendo to care. :P "GM agreed over the summer to "top off" pension payments to members of the United Auto Workers union and two other unions while not doing the same for salaried retirees or members of smaller unions such as the operating engineers. Preventing pension cuts to UAW retirees avoided a possible strike that could have derailed the new GM before it got up and running." Congress Seeks Answers on Delphi Pensions (WGRZ)

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