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by iluvmysephia1 on Sun Apr 05 14:45:41 PDT 2009

as to speed and place they would be legal, indeed. But they still could impose their crashworthiness sanctions on Tato, huh, and the Nano would be hard-pressed to comply. And yes, then the price would go up, speed go down, fun-quotient down, type of roads allowed on, etc. Very annoying but that is how it works. I think these old dudes have special City of Willcox/Cochise County passes, though, here, for their golf carts, and they know where they can and can not ride in them. So I think the idea remains an open one for Nano to shoot for, don't you? The Nano has an ICE and the golf cars are electric, so classifications are different from the get-go.

Re: rockford fosgate... [iluvmysephia1]

by rockylee on Thu Apr 09 14:52:59 PDT 2009

dude, you are going to do what you are going to do, come hell or high water, aren't ya, man? That's the way I roll!!! ;) For all of the high prices, road rage, heavy traffic, 90's Supersonic's victories under George Karl coaching Shawn Kemp and Gary Payton, that job making and revising Tubing, Attach Point and Electrical Production Illustrations on 747, 767 and 777 Boeing widebody jetliners was a great job. You will read me whine about it on here, but, I was prepared to work there for 20 more years and then retire fat, happy and although not rich, well-paid. Didn't happen. rockford...was I to give up and cry in to my Dr.Pepper? I thought you moved to Arizona, because my Utah Jazz, with Stockton and Malone were kicking your Supersonic AZZ :P Seriously uncle sam has sold Boeing down the river on more than one occassion by farming out work to oversea's. I still think it is treason. Anything made for the government should be american made. Guess what two jobs made my new Job's Finals? Respiratory Therapist and Hotel Management. Both were growing fields in 2003. Nursing at that time was growing 50% and Respiratory Therapy was growing at a 45% clip. So off we went, enjoying the beauty of Whatcom County and then heading south to our home County of Skagit County, enjoying viewing the huge fields of tulips and daffodils starting to pop up. I knew that I needed to get this hammered out ASAP, lingering was not a viable option for my wife and I and our Norwegian Forest cat, Tabitha, and our two Poms, Abby and Rocky. You love me so much that you named your dog after me??? :P Was it easy? No way! rocky, I am telling you it can be done. I no longer live in Washington state, I'm in Cochise County, Arizona, where Geronimo used to roam. There are illegals all over this County, so far they appear to leave us alone. Our hospital is moving up, buying new equipment and installing new signage, I may even get a pay increase this year. Our benefits are already the best in any hospital in southern Arizona. It can be done, rocky, even someone like you, can do it. I came from a manufacturing job at Boeing. People can change workframes. You didn't do it all by yourself. You had your loving wife. I as I said did it and was miserable. I am going to stay put for now. -Rocky

rockford fosgate...

by iluvmysephia1 on Thu Apr 09 13:25:31 PDT 2009

dude, you are going to do what you are going to do, come hell or high water, aren't ya, man? I remember when I was working at Boeing and we always talked about education, hell, Boeing was always ready to chop our heads off at any whim and desire of any gloppy-raspberry donut eating, Starbuck's slurping grey suited know-it-all. Honestly, I worked for Boeing for 20 years and some change. It is a fantastic job, full of challenge and very stressful at times. The stress at Boeing can be enormous when they want you to get a new customer's orders out pronto. The Starbuck's flowed like milk and honey, occasionally someone would lose it and yell at someone else. Occasionally a female employee would have to run to the restroom in tears. No kidding, the place was bathed in stress. For all of the high prices, road rage, heavy traffic, 90's Supersonic's victories under George Karl coaching Shawn Kemp and Gary Payton, that job making and revising Tubing, Attach Point and Electrical Production Illustrations on 747, 767 and 777 Boeing widebody jetliners was a great job. You will read me whine about it on here, but, I was prepared to work there for 20 more years and then retire fat, happy and although not rich, well-paid. Didn't happen. rockford...was I to give up and cry in to my Dr.Pepper? The fact that we could get Trade Act re-training in 2003 after our Boeing jobs, and get weekly State of Washington Unemployment checks for the entire time we attended college(good for an Associate's Degree) was too good to be true. I remember saying "Really?" to one of my Boeing buddies after he told me that. Uncle Sam paid for the books and tuition in full as well. Wow. That following weekend my wife and I drove north 25 miles to what I was thinking would be a more substantial library than that of the Skagit Valley town we lived in's, Burlington, WA. We headed up to the Bellingham, WA, library. rock, ya know how long it took me to decide I wanted to be trained to be a Respiratory Therapist? About an hour and a half. I scoured all of the job books, all of the what-d-ya wanna be when ya grow up books of any variety available to me. Guess what two jobs made my new Job's Finals? Respiratory Therapist and Hotel Management. Both were growing fields in 2003. Nursing at that time was growing 50% and Respiratory Therapy was growing at a 45% clip. So off we went, enjoying the beauty of Whatcom County and then heading south to our home County of Skagit County, enjoying viewing the huge fields of tulips and daffodils starting to pop up. I knew that I needed to get this hammered out ASAP, lingering was not a viable option for my wife and I and our Norwegian Forest cat, Tabitha, and our two Poms, Abby and Rocky. No time to blame others, although Boeing was not my favorite Company on the planet at that time. I decided that Saturday evening that I would take Uncle Sam, Boeing, and the state of Washington up on their offer to all laid-off employees. There were get aquainted workshops to attend. I checked out a book or two on Respiratory Therapy to get acquainted with what was to become my new work-life companion. Like my Boeing job, it looked challenging and potentially rewarding at the same time. Done. Deal is done. Was it easy? No way! rocky, I am telling you it can be done. I no longer live in Washington state, I'm in Cochise County, Arizona, where Geronimo used to roam. There are illegals all over this County, so far they appear to leave us alone. Our hospital is moving up, buying new equipment and installing new signage, I may even get a pay increase this year. Our benefits are already the best in any hospital in southern Arizona. It can be done, rocky, even someone like you, can do it. I came from a manufacturing job at Boeing. People can change workframes.

Bingo...

by iluvmysephia1 on Wed Apr 08 03:39:36 PDT 2009

srs49! rockford, are you reading this? You just have to pick the right degree to go after! I keep telling you and your stubborn Norwegian blood won't let you hear with your heart...your UAW head keeps knocking the truth out of your noggin. I am telling you, most of the guys in here already know this, they're not UAW through and through, healthcare and "green" technology jobs are the right ones right now to get training in. Sometimes you have to move after getting your degree to find the right job and the right place, though, to get the right "fit" for you. I know, been there and done that very thing. Once you find it, though, you're in like flint. Even in this crappy economy. Right, gentlemen? Yes, you can still get Security positions, but, by and large Healthcare and "Green" technology jobs of any and all sorts are the ones you should and could get a degree and training in. Even a "certificate" or "diploma" type of training would work. It's the "thought" that counts, right? rock, buddy, we've been at this for a long time in here. You are part of the "Edmunds family" and we all want you to succeed. But just because some of us have degrees in different fields and we see the stubbornness of the UAW and their greed, that doesn't mean that they have voted correctly on some of those "wildcat" strikes or other types of strikes. Biting GM when they were down has come back to bite their collective butts. I know from 20 years at Boeing the "Rah-Rah" mentality. I thought it was cheap then and I still can't stand that mentality now.I have lived it, been there, done that. Boeing is still a viable entity but thousands upon thousands of us fully retirement-pension vested have our Boeing pensions one day to look forward to, but nothing else, except our Boeing Credit Union memberships. Boeing's elite New World Order "leaders" have sold us out for stock profit. Neanderthals they might or may be, what do we fall back on after that, after them? Your hand-picked stories of family members with healthcare degrees who can't get a job are worthless anecdotes cherry-picked to support your antiquated views on training. Head to Wyoming or Arizona with your degree in Healthcare and jobs are there. You really should get outta da Midwest, bub. There's a lot of geographic beauty and a lot of nice people out West here, too. There is room to roam here in the Wild, Wild West where Geronimo used to roam. The old-style Boeing-type White Dog ran Geronimo down, the Cavalry, and loaded him and his people in to a railcar to Florida. Another warfare casualty well-done on the "homefront", eh? Hell, what was becoming Cochise County while Geronimo was still loose was Geronimo's land to roam and chase down the White Dog. But that's another story for another day. I just wanted you to know that re-training can work and is working right now. Also ponder this, rocky. Sometimes you even have to leave loved ones and family behind to find suitable employment. And leave their stubborn views behind, too. We are talking about economics, here, and situationable "fits" in employment. Ronald Reagan was asked if people should move to find work during one of those horrible recessions of the 80's. His answer? "By all means, go to where the jobs are", was his response. Twas a smart response between knawing on jellybeans of his favorite variety.

dallasdude...

by iluvmysephia1 on Sat Feb 14 21:02:16 PST 2009

what in hell were you trying to say to me in your last response to me? Are you trying to scare me in to thinking that the small, rural hospital, that about 15-20,000 Cochise County people depend on, will be up-rooted by people needing facelifts... crossing the border in to Mexico to save money on select surgical procedures? Once again, d-dude, listen to the blither and blather you're typing out here! It's nonsensical! Kind of describes all the UAW morons who keep deciding to suck the General dry when they should step way back and give back some of that slop they've forced GM to give them. Under the duress of your moronic strikes. Pitiful. You guys have helped to slit the throat of your own employer, an employer who used to proudly rule over the automotive "world." You should all be ashamed of yourselves, yet UAW members like you pridefully continue defending the union man's plight as being one of necessity. What a joke, on both the UAW's and GM and Chrysler. Ford may just pull out of this thing, though it's still too early to tell.

Drive on!

by iluvmysephia1 on Fri Sep 26 12:43:52 PDT 2008

cdnpinhead, I just noticed you're another one of us Arizona Edmunds members. I'm heading up there towards your area from Willcox on Monday, to get my '08 Lancer GTS detailed with an 'Auto Butler' paint protectant treatment. I get it every 6 months from the dealer I bought the Lancer from, Avondale Mitsubishi in Avondale, AZ. But what I wanted to comment on was your statement on driving and how much you like it. Drive on, because driving is not illegal, there's an oil company around that wants your ghastly dollar and a service station that wants your ghastly dollar, too. But driving is fun and a form of entertainment for a lot of us automotive enthusiasts. And whether we drive a rig with an ICE, hybrid, or all-electric, I believe it is important to be able to feel free to do just that. Drive our rigs with glee...I love driving around Arizona and New Mexico seeing new places and learning about the people of that land. Around here are the Chiricahua National Monument(the "land of standing rocks" the native Indians called them) with their enchanting rock spire formations, that are truly fascinating to see. Only about 37 miles south of Willcox, too. There is Fort Bowie, where Geronimo was held by the U.S. Army, after finally catching the great Apache warrior, back in 1886. Fort Bowie's ruins are available for viewing and they are only 25 miles SE of my home. More interesting rock formations are found in Texas Canyon with the Dragoon Mountain range and their rocks resting on top of other rocks and abnormalities are great to visit. I-10 actually runs right between the formations. Cochise Stronghold is about 45 miles west of me here in Willcox, and that is the proud Chief Cochise's old hiding place from the Cavalry and anyone else he didn't want to find him. We drove up to see a Foghat concert in October of '07 near Wickenburg, AZ, about 60 miles or so NW of Phoenix. The next day we left our motel and drove up to the Grand Canyon. I have never seen anything like that place and heartily await our next visit. When my son ran up to the edge on the SE area of the South Rim, he just stopped in his tracks and stared in amazement. "Dad, you're not gonna believe this!" He's right, I couldn't believe the beauty I was staring at. Incredible, awe-inspiring natural beauty that just went on and on. Point is, fact is, this country has benefited greatly from the automobile and it's availability to people. It's given us freedom and mobility that can't be rivalled by the horses and the carriages. Agreed? If we still have a rig with a ICE, and most of us do, I am for driving as much as we can afford to drive and for as long and far as we want. Restricting that idea is bad for business, bad for the economy and bad for our emotional health collectively. But it's an individual thing that varies according to the person, agreed. The environmentalists will never be satisfied, whatever propels our automobiles. You realize that, don't y'all? And if you love a manual-trannied rig way more than an automatic-trannied rig, ya know what, you've got that right. Once again, it's an individual thing. I think that with the advent of hybrid and all-electric propulsion technology you're gonna have to be ready to abandon your stickshift vehicle, however. Reading up on the subject points me to things like automatic push-button starts for new world order rigs like this. And after starting the rigs, I am reading of the implementation of simple levers for putting the power to the wheels, like "forward" and "reverse" buttons. Does that doom the manual tranny? I don't think so. Especially if you've got some awesome backyard mechanical skills, gentlemen. I am starting to see the end of the manual transmission. But that's just my view, my car-nut buddies. Think I'll go exploring in the Lancer GTS. And I'll feel good about doing just that, too.