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2013 Porsche 911 Carrera Cabriolet Long-Term Road Test

2013 Porsche 911 Carrera Cabriolet: Street Legal

March 11, 2014

2013 Porsche 911 Carrera

An out-of-state shopper contacted us about the 2013 Porsche 911 Carrera and asked if we would take it in for a pre-purchase inspection. No problem, we said. If you're considering spending $83K for a used car, it's a good idea to give it a thorough inspection by an expert. We told the shopper to set up an appointment and we would take the car to the dealership.

Unfortunately, it turned out to be a bit more involved. Three dealerships turned down our shopper's request. Finally, Circle Porsche in Long Beach, agreed to do the inspection. Here's what they found.

We dropped the Porsche off and left it overnight. When we went to pick it up, we were a little surprised to find that we couldn't get a copy of the report. The shopper paid $400 for the inspection, so it was up to him to share the results with us if he wanted to.

However, Alberto Garcia, Circle Porsche brand ambassador told us, "It's a really clean car." He added that their pre-purchase inspection is the same as the 111-point inspection they use when considering whether to include a car in the certified pre-owned car program.

On its Website, Circle Porsche says it is the oldest Porsche dealer in California. It is located at the notorious Long Beach Traffic Circle through which 60,000 cars travel each day. Getting into the dealership is somewhat circuitous, but once there you feel you are in Porsche heaven.

2013 Porsche 911 Carrera

We have had the Porsche 911 up for sale for a while now and four people have contacted us. No solid offers yet but getting a clean inspection report will certainly improve our chances.

Philip Reed, Senior Consumer Advice Editor


Comments

  • noburgers noburgers Posts:

    Being the intelligent Edmunds readers that we are, then, the shopper got a clean report but did not purchase the car. Could you not agree on a price, or what?

  • kirkhilles_ kirkhilles_ Posts:

    Wow, $400. What was that, 2 hours at $200 per hour? Maybe it was just a "quickie" at 1 hour @ $400 per hour...

  • cjasis cjasis Posts:

    I'm perplexed as to why any Porsche dealer would refuse doing a PPI. That makes no sense at all. The dealer makes money on them.

  • banhugh banhugh Posts:

    So, did you go halfsies on the inspection report? It would be a great bargaining tool for the next buyer if that one doesn't like it...

  • bassrockerx bassrockerx Posts:

    you should have asked that dealership to give you an offer on the vehicle after they inspected it. also selling a vehicle it might be worth getting the inspection yourself from a reputable shop/dealer and then advertising the results. a buyer payif out of their own pocket is likely to haggle the inspection cost out of the selling price anyways so might as well pay for it yourself and get it moved more quickly and maybe earn a higher sales price.

  • bankerdanny bankerdanny Posts:

    I'm with bass. You are selling at $80k car. Pay the $400 for your own copy of the report.

  • cjasis, I wondered the same thing. My only guess is it had to do with it being arranged by an out-of-state person who didn't own the car and accepting payment over the phone. Nothing like finding out that $400 charge was reversed by the credit card company later.

  • " You are selling at $80k car. Pay the $400 for your own copy of the report." -- but at the same time they were only $1,300 off from their TMV value with the offer from Carmax so they'd then only be $900 off and some people that can afford a car like this would have better things to do with their time for $900.

  • bassrockerx bassrockerx Posts:

    i see a trend of TMV of cars being overly optimistic of real world prices. at least they are closer than KBB that says all cars are worth thousands more.

  • fordson1 fordson1 Posts:

    "We have had the Porsche 911 up for sale for a while now and four people have contacted us. No solid offers yet but getting a clean inspection report will certainly improve our chances. " Um, yeah...but you don't have the report. I'm with bassrockerx and banhugh - get a copy of the report, either by splitting it with the prospect who paid, or by getting it done yourself. Why would you have a prospect pay for it and then he can use that cost as a tool to beat you down on the price of the car, but then not have the benefit of using the report as a selling tool yourselves?

  • stovt001_ stovt001_ Posts:

    Remind me again why the Carmax offer wasn't taken?

  • noburgers noburgers Posts:

    My theory is after a few weeks of dealing with this BS they go back to CarMax, but CarMax now offers less.

  • dunning15 dunning15 Posts:

    We're not dealing with financial geniuses here at Edmunds, folks. These characters drove a car for 12 months and took a $20,000 depreciative hit. Of course they are automotive journalists and are doing this for the benefit of all of us. I think.

  • fordson1 fordson1 Posts:

    Kind of agree with you, dunning15, but when I see a title of "senior consumer advice editor," I expect to see a little more savvy in the wheeling and dealing sector.

  • gslippy gslippy Posts:

    You guys are ridiculous. As I said in the previous thread, you'll be back to CarMax. Right now, all the risk is on you, and you still don't have the inspection report despite your endorsement of having one. You should have taken the 98% CarMax offer.

  • Tell again what TMV means? Cuz if it means what I think it means, this car would have been sold. Inconceivable!

  • joefrompa joefrompa Posts:

    Guys, It's a specialty car being sold during a brutal winter. Lighten up and realize that in private sale these cars take time to sell. I agree they should've taken the carmax offer, but really...?

  • gslippy gslippy Posts:

    @joefrompa - Tell me about the brutal winter depicted in the photo for this article. Edmunds' cars spend most of their time in sunny LA.

  • gslippy gslippy Posts:

    Since the 911 initially lost $1074 per month in value, and since another month has passed since you turned down the $78000 CarMax offer, are you having second thoughts about not selling to them? You should be.

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