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Which 911 to buy
I am looking to finally buy my first Porsche 911. I am trying to decide on either a 2002/2003 911 Turbo or a 2005/2006 911 C4S. Would like good advice from Porsche owners - and a reason why as well. Many Thanks !!
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your posting
your quote: "Oh yeah... as far as getting a 993? Have you seen the asking prices for those? Maybe the greatest 911, ever... but, it's just nuts.. Basically, a collector car, now.. If I get a 996, I could use it as my daily driver.. It's a pretty long model run... is there a year when they get better? (1997-2005). I'm probably not going to end up with the Porsche... too ... Read More
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Re: That's great [Mr_Shiftright]
Shoot.. I could get the wife to go for it.. But... the boy just turned 16, so I'm going to have 3rd vehicle expenses, including INSURANCE.. and, then... college expenses coming up in two years.. Oh yeah... as far as getting a 993? Have you seen the asking prices for those? Maybe the greatest 911, ever... but, it's just nuts.. Basically, a collector car, now.. If I get a 996, I ... Read More
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Re: 2005 Porsche 911 S Cab [96redlt4]
Thanks for the response. I will check with the dealer in the a.m. regarding the four year check. I just had the oil changed and a break fluid bleed. The cost was $330. So I am sure they will not include them in the service..
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Re: 2005 Porsche 911 S Cab [majesterludi]
Hi. I have an 05 997 S coupe. Ready for the 4 yr 40K (even though it only has 11K mile) service. The dealer says it runs about $800. Thius sounds like a rip off to me as the only things replaced per the service manual are air/particle filters and lube oil filter. He says they also put in a fuel system additive, which is not in the manual and I ... Read More
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2005 Porsche 911 S Cab
I have a 2005 911 S with 6000 miles. My service light has come on reminding me that service needs to be done in 15 days! Are the service intervals based on time or miles, or both. Is it really necessary to have the service done considering the car has low miles. I realize that the car is four years old. Comments.
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Re: Popular color for Porsche Carrera [asi12]
There is a lot of speculation about color and resale value. I have a 2005 911S Cab in Seal Grey that I bought off the lot in Spetember, 2005 at a great deal ($10k off). My preference at that time would have been Speed Yellow and, in fact, the next spring I ordered a 2006 through the dealer that I then decided not to take when a deal to sell my ... Read More
Porsche Carrera Cabriolet
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Re: Porsche carrera cabriolet 1999 model newcomer [habitat1]
I purchased a 2005 911 one year ago. I blew through my Continentals with 12,000 miles. I am in the process of researching tires, and believe I will go with the Michelins. The dealer wants to charge $500 more than Tire Rack for the tires, plus $400 to install. Is the install worth it?
Porsche 911
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Re: Bluetooth [diro1]
Regarding your questions #1 & #6, my 2006 911 is GT silver with black interior. I saw a silver with tan interior when I bought mine a couple of months ago. The're out there, but black on black has been very popular for awhile. I don't know why. I believe PSM is standard on all 911's. Don't know if it was available on pre 997's. PASM is an option on the ... Read More
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Re: 911 Questions - new v. used - help me please! [larryallen707]
I have been contemplating the purchase of a 911 my whole life.... I assume you have never driven a 911, otherwise you would have bought one by now. I would throw in another $20,000 and get a type 997, 2005 to present, I believe. Why not get the latest technology and most comfortable ride, not to mention a faster car. I have never driven a pre 997, but everyone says the ... Read More
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Re: 911 Engines and Advice for 1st time buyer [porsche4me2]
I'm looking at 2004-2006 Porsche 911 Cabs and my mechanic warned me that there have been several issues with the water cooled engines in the 996s (1999-2003). First, you should be aware that 2004 was the last year of the 996 design, not 2003. Supposedly, Porsche revised the rear main seal / crankcase design for the 997 model (2005+) but there have still been a few isolated reports of leaks. According ... Read More
Porsche Carrera Cabriolet
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Porsche 911 Engines
I'm looking at 2003-2005 Porsche 911 Cabs and my mechanic warned me that there have been several issues with the water cooled engines in the 996s (1999-2003). Has anyone else heard of those issues? Have they been addressed in the 2004 (and newer) models? He thinks the the '95-98's have excellent engines but ideally I'd like the newer body style. This is my first Porsche purchase and any advice is appreciated. ... Read More
Article Comments - 2008 Porsche 911 GT2 First Drive
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Re: Article Comments - 2008 Porsche 911 GT2 [07997turbo]
that is why I would replace everything I could with carbon fiber panels as I indicated in my first post. Sort of like ordering a diet coke to go along with your Double Whopper and fries? I don't know how much weight can be saved by the use of carbon fiber. But, speaking for myself, I'd rather have the lighter, more drivetrain efficient RWD to start with, than try to lighten ... Read More
Article Comments - 2007 Porsche 911 Turbo Follow-Up Test
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Re: Porsche 911 Turbo Triptronic is an Auto Box. [sandeep5]
Could you tell me where I could get a 911T (6-sp with few options) for $3k over invoice? You need to shop around and check out dealer inventories using Porsche's website. They make it pretty easy to check out inventories at every dealer within 100-200-300 miles of a specific zip code. When I bought my 997 911C2S Cab, it was a "hot" car, having only been out for about 3-4 months. ... Read More
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Re: Porsche 911 Turbo Triptronic is an Auto Box. [rlk691]
I don't think many people with the coin to drop on a 911 turbo have curbed their spending that much on the basis of the current financial markets. Think again. When the 997 Turbo first came out, there was a pent up demand and 6+ month wait. My dealer that gave me a $10k discount on a new 911 C2S Cab in September 2005 told me that $2,000 off was the ... Read More
Porsche 911
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Re: New or Used Porsche??? Lease or Own? Tips for Buying? [madmanmoo]
but IIRC the original MSRP was 111k. If that's the case, they need to open a new asylum in Atlanta. $30,000 worth of options on a base C2 Cab wouldn't just be crazy, I think it's damn near impossible. The highest price I saw for a C2S cab when I was shopping was $109k and that was with a custom to order color and full custom color leather interior. Anything over ... Read More
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Re: New or Used Porsche??? Lease or Own? Tips for Buying? [gtmaguire]
A few responses: Leasing: It sounds like you are somewhat similar to me. I always pay cash for my cars, figuring I'll bite the bullet once and be done with it. If I was looking at a BMW I might consider leasing, as they offer great lease rates/subsidies. Porsche doesn't. I would have been stroking a check for about $1,600 per month on mine and that would have taken some of ... Read More
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Re: New or Used Porsche??? What to do??? Kids too! [gtmaguire]
By the time I got my 911S Cab in September, 2005, my girls were 7 and 10. The 7 year old was around 45-50 lbs, so technically should have been in a car seat, but the rear "buckets" were form fitting enough and the seat belt properly positioned, that I did not feel too uncomfortable with her in the back. Now it's a complete non issue. With the age of your ... Read More
Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo
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Changed??
Greetings: Virtually unchanged in 40 years? Side by side there is no comparison structurally or functionally between a 1965 911 and a 2008 C2S. A water cooled engine should be the first clue. Check out a 2004 996 and a 2005 997... quite different machine. Porsches' motto has always been " Evolution not Revolution ". 60 some years of racing experience and a hugely profitable automobile company in Porsche AG would ... Read More
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Re: ? [240ka]
Well, you certainly have worked yourself up to a frothy lather over the GT-R based upon the "many reviews" you have been reading. My guess is that you are somewhere between old enough to drive, but not old enough to afford a 350Z, let alone a GT-R and will have to continue to get your "fix" reading reviews rather than driving any of these cars. Nothing wrong with that, by the ... Read More
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Re: Article Comments - 2009 Nissan GT-R vs. 2008 Porsche 911 Turbo [cruiser69]
You are certainly welcome to your perogative to drive an American classic rather than a high performance sports car. But I think your assumption that you have to break the speed limit by a factor of two to enjoy the latter is incorrect. Over the past 2+ years, every time I go somewhere, I have a choice of a 2004 Acura TL 6-speed and a 2005 911 C2S Cab. During that ... Read More
Porsche Carrera Cabriolet
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Re: Porsche carrera cabriolet 1999 model newcomer [italian4]
On tires, you can check with Tire Rack for options/prices. For my 2005 911S, with 19" wheels, Michelins (Pilot Sport) and Pirellis (P-Zero Rosso) were recommended by my dealer. Continentals and other brands were NOT recommended. I went with Pirellis when I needed to repalce the rears, but I will likely switch to Michelins for all 4 next time around. Lexol leather clearner was recommended by my dealer for the interior. ... Read More
Sports Cars - The Definitive Discussion
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My Take
Greetings: Opinions are like....... oh ya, ...in my humble opinion: I spent $99,949.85 out the door (cash sale, I am truely fortunate! )in Oct 2005 on my ordered 2006 C2S coupe. The VAST majority of Porsche owners never will experience the true potential of their cars, the VAST majority of Vet owners are likely in the same boat. I checked out the 2006 Corvettes and did not like the quality or ... Read More
Used 911 vs. Used 944 Turbo
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Re: Used 911 vs. Used 944 Turbo [tccc]
A neighbor down the road has an old 924 that has been sidelined for 4 months waiting for parts. When I was out waxing my 911 (2005) a few weeks ago, he commented that he should have bought an older 911, as they are easier to get parts for. I have no direct knowledge of whether the parts availability or reliability of one is better than the other. But if you ... Read More
Porsche Sound Systems
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911 Bose Audio
The good news is that, after nearly 2 years and 16,300 miles, I have been happy enough with the car itself to not care much that the sound system sucks. But now, halfway through my warranty period, I'm thinking it can't be intended to be this bad. I have a 2005 Cab with the $1,200 +/- Bose premium sound system. It has almost no bass. In order to even hear the ... Read More
Which Porsche to buy
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Re: 996 newbie to be needs advice [bullethead]
Bullethead, I am in the same type of pondering! I thought that I will get myself a Targa, as it is not that common as the others, but then started reading about the 911-series, and have found that most Porsche enthusiasts think that the best one to have is a "plain" C2 with no additional stability controls, 4-wheel drives and such. Of course, there is a number of people who would ... Read More
Porsche 911 vs. Corvette Z06
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Re: Where's the speed? [trucktricks]
What to believe? I'm looking right at a Motor Trend compasion test of the 2005 Corvette Z51 and the 911S coupe. It shows the 355 hp 911S beating or matching the 400 hp Corvette in every measured performance category: 0-60: 4.2 vs. 4.4 seconds 1/4 mile: 12.6 each 60-0 Braking: 106 vs. 113 feet 100-0 braking: 299 vs. 321 feet 600 ft slalom: 70.1 vs. 68.9 mph 200 ft skidpad: 0.97 ... Read More
Porsche 911 Turbo Maintenance
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Re: 07 Porsche Turbo...Quality Built ? [bayareafx45]
Porsche displaced Lexus as #1 in JD Powers IQS surveys over the past 2 years. That said, Lexus deserves credit for having generally great product quality and customer service. Unfortunately, the only Lexus we have considered recently, the GX470 in 2005, had significant drivetrain vibration issues that Lexus was painfully slow in addressing. Not sure if it's fixed even now. I have 14,400 miles on a 2005 911S Cabriolet and haven't ... Read More
Article Comments - 2008 Audi R8 vs. 2007 Porsche 911 Turbo
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Re: 911 Turb0 [circlew]
Greetings: I purchased a new 2006 C2S in Sept 2005. I remember reading a C4 piece and it stated that the C4 was the safest car in the US. Since I live in Southern California, weather is a non-issue, but the other areas of the US with heavy rain and weather that requires a safer car,well, my opinion is that the C4 is a great choice. We Porsche 997 and 996 ... Read More
Porsche 911
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Re: Porsche 911 emblem [dan24ou]
Maintenance costs can vary significantly by geographic area and even by dealership / mechanic. My 2005 911S (997 model) technically did not require it's first service until 2 years/20k miles. I had the oil/filter changed (9.5 quarts) and an inspection of other fluids done at a dealership at 1 yr/10k miles for $250. The 2 year/20k is expected to cost $600 +/-. But the 4 year/40k mile major service is expected ... Read More
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Re: pre-owned 911 market [vwguild1]
In that case, I'm curious as to what would be the value - retail and wholesale - that you would estimate for my 2005 911 S Cab: 12,700 miles Seal Gray / Black Excellent condition w/ new rear tires Options (totaled $13k+): Nav, Sport exhaust, full leather seats, power seats, heated seats, Bose, 6CD, self dim mirrors, aluminum Carrera S sill plates, Porsche crest in headrests, colored wheel crests, mats. Thanks ... Read More
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Re: How much room to negotiate do the dealers have on pre-owned inventory? [vwguild1]
"I would also be careful about accepting 20-25% discounts or 7-9% either at face value...All depends upon the the Market, the car, and the Dealer...and all differ from coast to coast. Only 162 new C2S sold in March in the US...Allocations remain tight..." Spoken like a true salesman. My recommendation to anyone hearing the pitch that "allocations remain tight" is to check out inventories on the Porsche website of dealers in ... Read More
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My experience..The Cayman
Hi: I've had an addiction for Porsche since I was 18 ( 1968 ) and at the young age of 25 bought my first " Porsche " Okay..a VW .. 1976 914 2.0. I was young, fit and thin and had no trouble fitting in it. It was the fastest car in 1st and 2nd gear I've ever owned.. It would smoke the 911 at that time for about the first ... Read More
Porsche 911 Tires and Wheels
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Re: tire wear [fedlawman]
"Can I have your cab when you're done with it?" How about next week? I went to my Porsche dealer today to have the service manager look at the tires and he now claims the rears are ready to be replaced. Pretty odd that, at 10,711 miles (oil change/service) they "look great with lots of tread life left" and now at 12,415 miles they "should be replaced as soon as possible". ... Read More
Porsche 911
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Re: New SUV [chrmdome]
"My new Silverado has 367 and doesn't need more..." Your new Silverado couldn't USE any more horsepower, as it isn't exactly competive with the Cayenne's suspension and handling. Porsche may be guilty of taking the "S" in SUV to the extreme, but for 95% of SUV's out there, they are the oxymorons for using the label "sport", not Porsche. I think FAM for "family utility vehicle" would best describe our 2005 ... Read More
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Re: What's it worth with a little help from Buffett and Zell [blckislandguy]
First of all, I hope that "minimally optioned" C2 is indeed a C2S, for that MSRP. Edmunds doesn't show MSRP's for 2006 any more, but a 2007 C2S w/ power seats, bose & Atlas Grey is $87,095, not including any "cosmetic" options. At this point in time, I would think a "good price" on this car by the dealer would be invoice, or even slightly less. That assumes it is indeed ... Read More
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Re: Opinion 05 Turbo S versus 06 or 07 C4S or C2S [dutchbuyer]
I have a 2005 Seal Grey C2S Cab and when I conidered trading it for a 2006 Speed Yellow, I also considered the "2" vs. "4". Bottom line for me was that (a) the "2" is lighter, quicker and a bit easier on gas mileage than the "4", (b) the "4" looks a little more aggressive with the wider rear track (but you have to look closely), (c) the "4" would ... Read More
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A good price on a 2006 C2?
A Porsche dealer has a 2006 911 with 2000mi on it. The MSRP was 78820. I was hoping to get it for 65K, but the lowest they will go is 67.5K, which is about 14% off. It's in service date is 07/07/06 and is not certified. I've been looking around and think that their price is fair, but wanted to see what others think. It's hard for me to stretch above ... Read More
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Re: Your options - my opinion [amerikanisch] - DSG [habitat1] [amerikanisch] [redsoxgirl] [amerikanisch] [spiritinthesky]
From your response to redsoxgirl, you sound like the twin brother of the guy who was trying to swap his Tip for my 6-speed: Initially considered an SL55. Wife preferred 911 but refuses to consider leaning how to drive a manual. Fifties and ready to splurge on a sports car... >> You don't suppose that was me, do you :-)? No, it wasn't. In any event, regardless of your transmission choice, ... Read More
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Re: Your options - my opinion [amerikanisch] - DSG [habitat1] [amerikanisch] [redsoxgirl] [amerikanisch]
From your response to redsoxgirl, you sound like the twin brother of the guy who was trying to swap his Tip for my 6-speed: Initially considered an SL55. Wife preferred 911 but refuses to consider leaning how to drive a manual. Fifties and ready to splurge on a sports car... In any event, regardless of your transmission choice, I'll strongly "second" the suggestion of redsoxgirl to take your wife to a ... Read More
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Question on Warrenty and Price
I'm not an avid Porsche lover (getting there) I grew up in Michigan where my Dad worked for Daimler/Chrysler for 41 years and needless to say I've always owned American made cars and have had nothing against them. I've come here for some advise, my best friend wants to buy 2007 911. I'm trying and succeeding to an extent to get him to look at some used ones, 2005 in particular. ... Read More
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Re: buying a Porsche [newbe3]
I bought a brand new 2005 997S Cab when the 2006's were on the way. Compared to ordering a 2006 exactly the way I wanted it, I saved an additional $5k in discount ($10k vs. 5k) and avoided a $2,400 in price increase. So, even though I might not have ordered $4k worth of options, I essentially got them for free and then some by taking a car off the dealer ... Read More
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Re: buying a Porsche [newbe3]
"not sure how to surf cal. web sites. Also porsche sales people treat you like s_i_." Go to Porsche Homepage title. Go to USA under the North American tab and a screen will pop up that allows you to "Find a Dealer". Type in your zip (or another one for another area) and "300 miles" and presto, you have a complete list. You can click on each dealer's site and check ... Read More
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Re: What to do? / 911 Turbo [ifpsken]
Thanks for your reply - and thanks to others who replied. I have extended my "drop dead" date to this Saturday for making the decision. I have also gotten a little better of a deal - $3,750 discount. The purchaser of the Turbo is willing to take my 911 C2S for half of my negotiated discount and the dealer is willing to apply the other half to the Turbo. Both the ... Read More
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Re: Porsche European Delivery; Tale of Woe [blckislandguy]
While a 911 has a list of 71K, no one in their right mind would want one that way for that kind of money. At 71K you don't get leather, power seats, NAV, a rear wiper---this must be a joke, right?, There are a lot of reasons to talk yourself out of a Porsche. I talked myself out of a Boxster S in 2002 in favor of a $25k less expensive ... Read More
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Re: Lots of S Cabs in New England [blckislandguy]
According to my dealer, there indeed is a bit of a shortage of coupes at the present time, compared to cabs. Last year, the cab didn't come out until late spring and Porsche was playing catch-up most of the 2005 model year to meet demand. They may have gone too far in the opposite direction for 2006 - my dealer has more cabs than coupes available. I also think there might ... Read More
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Cell Phones / Tiptronic
Does anyone here have the Porsche hands free phone system in their 911? If so, does it work well? Please provide details. My car did not come with that option, but I am considering getting it installed. DC does not permit hand held cell phones (one of their few crazy laws that I actually agree with). I didn't think I'd be using the 911 on a daily basis, and our Acuras ... Read More
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Re: A Couple of Dumb Questions and One Naive Statement [blckislandguy]
Not dumb questions, and my subjective response: (1) Leather package and leather trim options are, IMO, where Porsche really hits your pocketbook. I've seen cars with the full leather dash and center console, etc. They look very nice. But the price is several thousand. If I had the cahnace, I might not have ordered the $1,500 +/- leather seats that came in my car. The standard seats, with leather sides and ... Read More
Sports Cars - The Definitive Discussion
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Re: Errata for the errata... [andys120]
It's Porsche's fault for having so many similar names. I agree. It took me 6 months of being a pain in the ass before GEICO sent me an insurance renewal adjustment that finally correctly reflected my car. For the first 6 months, they claimed the VIN on my 2005 911S Cab was showing up in their system as a "Carrera S/GT". A non-S 911 was simply "911 Carrera". For the first ... Read More
Porsche 911
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Re: fergie, bpm69, cayenneslook
fergie, I have driven my 911 Cab 150+ miles on the highway at 75+ and it's quite comfortable, but obviously there is a fair amount of wind noise. I did NOT use the windscreen that comes with the car - it fit's over the back seats (folded) and runs up the back of the front seats. Supposedly, this reduces wind noise, but limits your use of the rear are for storage. ... Read More
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Re: Will order 2007 C4S [blckislandguy]
I appreciate the compliment, but I am hardly a "guru". I've been a Porsche owner for all of 5 1/2 months. My friend with a 2001 911TT (gettinga 2007 911 TT) has, by contrast been a Porsche owner for 30+ years. My dealer thought I should be able to sell my 2005 w/ 5,000 miles for about 13-15% under it's original MSRP (not the current/increased 2006 MSRP), and thought that would ... Read More
Aston Martin V8 Vantage
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Re: . [amv8]
Not to jump into someone else's discussion, but "The 996T seems like it has lost most of what it will lose. Turbos tend to hold their value well. Look at the old ones... they still go for a lot of money. They are more exclusive. A new 997S will take a BIG hit in the next couple of years." I don't think your statements are completely correct. Certainly new vs. used ... Read More
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Re: . [amv8]
"Please tell me why you say you would only consider a 996 GT2/GT3. You would take a GT3 over a TT"? I prefer lighter weight, RWD to the heavier 996TT AWD. Strictly personal. But if the 997TT handles as good as the 997S, I can live with the extra 200+ lbs that the AWD costs. I have driven the 997 C4S, but it wasn't broken in and I couldn't get a ... Read More
Porsche 911
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Re: New 997 as a highway tourer or am I nuts? [blckislandguy]
Actually, the MSRP for the 2006 Speed Yellow is $102,600, $220 less than my 2005 Seal Grey. My 2005 would sticker out at $105,400+/- in 2006. The differences are that I am foregoing the $2,400 (now $2,500) sport exhaust. (Sounds great, but I had to draw the line somewhere). My 2005 also had $220 Headrest Crests and $415 Metal Door Sill Insignias that I'm not getting. Plus, I'm saving $825 on ... Read More
Sports Cars - The Definitive Discussion
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Re: Hey [donz1]
I'll add my 3 cents to rorr's 2 and give you an even nickel to chew on. (1) I don't know "where (you) come from" that a "Boxter is not a porsche" (sic), but where I come from it's a safe assumption that a real Porsche owner would not consistently misspell Boxster five times in two posts. (2) As a real and very happy 2005 911S owner, I have no ego ... Read More
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Hey
Hello, I own porsche turbo 2001 and a carrera 4S 2005 .. Where I come from a Boxter is not a porsche and considering it's price and it's engine it is definitly not a porsche and infact it defames porsches all arounf the world. The cayman is not a boxter with a hardtop .. It is much more than that .. It is between the boxter and the 911 and it's ... Read More
Porsche 911
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Re: 2006 c4s cab price? [mssurrey]
On the lease vs. buy, you need to do the economic analysis yourself - including tax implications. Porsche, unlike other manufacturers, is not giving away free money to help sell their products. Therefore, the "roughly" $5,000 down and $1,400 per month lease payment I was quoted for a 2006 Cab S would have worked out to $70,000 over a 4 year lease. I expect to take a hit on depreciation, but ... Read More
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Re: Discounting? [bsumner]
For what it's worth to anyone in this forum, I got close to $10k discount on my new 2005 Cab 2S in September. I had a 2006 on order for a $5k discount at the time, but elected to go with the 2005, given the price concession. It had several options I would not have ordered, bringing the MSRP up to $102,800. The 2006 on order had a MSRP of $101.5k ... Read More
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Re: Option Recommendations [1wanta997]
I'll give my opinion based upon the options I have on my car. However, with the price of Porsche options, everyone needs to determine what is important to them, and it can be very subjective. My car: 2005 997S Cabriolet - In addition to the base model standard features, the "S" adds as standard equipment the Xenons ($1,090), PASM ($1,990), 19" wheels ($1,550), sport steering wheel ($250). If you are planning ... Read More
Sports Cars - The Definitive Discussion
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Re: Just my two cents... [auxyone]
I greatly appreciate your two cents and would like a few more if you can spare them: (1) Is your 2003 911 a coupe or cab? I have heard that the 997 Cab is better than the 996 at coming close to matching the coupe in handling, but that neither are as tight or nimble as the Boxster S, according to my dealer. I've only driven a 2005 Boxster S and ... Read More
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Re: Topspin [ultimatedriver]
"However it's engine is good for a sub 5 second sprint to 60 mph when conditions permit, just in case you feel like goosing it a bit." If in "goosing" you mean driving it off a 200 foot cliff, then perhaps you are right. But that is the only way an SLK350 is ever going to achieve a sub 5 second 0-60 sprint. I have been test driving everything under $100k ... Read More
Porsche 911
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2005 911
Good point on the screens. Seems like an easy problem to solve. This wouldn't necessarily be an every day car, but not far behind. I do plan on putting fairly significant miles on this car. Porsche, unlike other high-end cars, seems to be made to drive. Friends of ours have an early-60's model which they still drive virtually daily. It's unbreakable. On the other hand, I have friends that own Ferrari's ... Read More
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2005 911 Carrera
Hello Steelcruiser, You seem to be pretty knowledgeable on this subject. If I was to purchase a new base model 911, the options I would include would be the Xenon lighting, leather seats and the Bose sound system. Given that Porsche can and does nickel and dime you to death when it comes to options, which other options would you absolutely insist on purchasing? 19 inch wheels? If so, does it ... Read More
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Re: Color Question - Speed Yellow? [merc1]
Merc, Interesting difference of opinion, I think the Speed Yellow looks better on a 911 Cab or Boxster than a 911 coupe. I like the contrast between the yellow and black top and interior. However, in coupe form, I'd probably go with seal grey or silver. With the entire car in speed yellow (i.e. the roof of the coupe), it looks a little too much like an Easter egg, IMO. If ... Read More
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Re: 2005 911 vs. Boxster S vs. C6 Corvette Coupe [love2skicar1]
I don't need to search autotrader or e-bay to find out what the "asking" prices are on a used C4S. Rather, I suggest you call some reputable Porsche dealerships and ask them to tell you what they would give you in actual trade value for the C4S you are considering. I also don't need to be reminded that options and mileage need to be taken into account when valuing a Porsche. ... Read More
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Re: 2005 911 vs. Boxster S vs. C6 Corvette Coupe [spiritinthesky]
You are very confident anyone paying $100K for a C4S is foolish, so go ahead and do a simple search on ebay or autotrader and tell us what you find. If you can find a reasonably equipped C4S for $75-80K TODAY (vs. winter) with 4K miles, then I suggest you buy it and sell it the next day, because you'll do even better than you did in your investment account. The ... Read More
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Re: 2005 911 vs. Boxster S vs. C6 Corvette Coupe [love2skicar1]
love2skicar1, Sorry to jump on, but it appears to me that YOU don't know what you are talking about in this instance and, rich or not, you would be foolish to come even close to paying $100k+ for a used 2004 C4S Cab. First, there is nothing particularly "rare" about a 2004 C4S other than the number of buyers that wanted to buy one new. Porsche increased its production capacity with ... Read More
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Re: 2005 911 vs. Boxster S vs. C6 Corvette Coupe [love2skicar1]
Have you actually driven a 2005 S Cab and a 2004 C4S Cab back to back? I have, and I own a 2005 S Cab. Interestingly, I asked my Porsche salesman about it as well, and he agreed completely--he would even take an 2005 S Cab over a 2004 Turbo Cab, which I found surprising. It is an entirely different experience driving a 997 than a 996, from the apperance of ... Read More
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Re: 2005 911 vs. Boxster S vs. C6 Corvette Coupe [habitat1]
I'm sorry but you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to car values. I'm quite aware that the technology is better in the 997, but the rarity of a Porsche has more to do with resale value than the technology. Depreciation is by far the largest expense in owning a modern sports car. Check out the resale prices of 911's on the net over the years. Those ... Read More
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Re: Question for Buyers: [nattyb]
nattyb, I'll repeat the disclosure that I do not personally own a 911 (yet), but have researching the heck out of it and picking the brain of several friends and associates with Porsche 911 experience. We live in the DC and have a second home in PA. I have been advised against the AWD system in the non-turbo versions of the 911, for the reasons listed in my post above: added ... Read More
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Re: 2005 911 vs. Boxster S vs. C6 Corvette Coupe [love2skicar1]
Are you NUTS????. $104k-$108k for a USED C4S?? (vs. a "brandy" new 2005 Cab S) Your dealer must think you are a rich fool with the "value due to rarity" pitch. In every conceivable way the new 997 911 Cab is a better car than the 2004 C4S. Engineering, performance, interior quality, exterior styling, etc. And that's the base 997. Jump to the 2005 997 "S" version and you are that ... Read More
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Need help from the group, please.
Man, that's a beautiful story. I'm really hoping you (or others) can help me with a major quandry. I'm totally convinced on the Porsche 911. Test drove it -- blew me away. Found a beautiful Carmon Red Metallic 2005 Carrera S at a local dealer. Options are fine. (has the sports package and chrono.) dealer will take $4k - $5k off. Key issues:"> 1. I have a VW GTI and am ... Read More
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Re: Comments Please [habitat1]
Actually, this is what happened. As my name (s4to911) implies, I have owned a 2001 Audi S4 for five years. I went to my local Audi/Porsche dealer about six weeks ago looking at some 2005 S4 Cabs (I wanted a convertible) and there was a Midnight Blue/Sand Beige 2005 911 S Cab on the lot (with navigation, Bose, heated seats, power seats, full leather, Sport Chrono, 19 inch Carrera Classic wheels, ... Read More
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Re: Comments Please [habitat1]
Boxster S--fantastic car, tossable, planted, more power now than in previous years. 911 S Cab--fantastic blow you away car. I bought my 2005 911 S Cab about one month ago (Midnight Blue/Sand Beige, no options except Bose sound upgrade, Navigation, heated seats, metallic paint) and I have not stopped wondering in amazement how I got hold of this beast. I think that there is nowhere else to go in terms of ... Read More
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Re: Question about bent wheels [billtn]
I don't think a refund is unreasonable. Especially given that it appears likely that this vehicle must have been abused in order for someone to have bent all 4 wheels. I have heard of a single rim bent by a whopper of a pot hole, but this sounds like someone took it airborne over railroad tracks. Wonder what else was abused - the engine?? P.S. The Porsche dealership I visited this ... Read More
Sports Cars - The Definitive Discussion
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2005 911 Carrera S
I have purchased a new 2005 911 Carrera S and experienced a huge problem with the overall comfort of the seats. Although it has a comfortable lower portion, the upper portion hits me directly in the shoulder blades making for a very unpleasant ride. Does anyone know whether or not Porsche or an after market company is planning on offering an adjustment to this problem?
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Sports Car vs. GT
No doubt this definition of "sports car" versus sports sedan, GT, etc. is significant. I think I encountered this difference over the weekend during a test drive of the 997. Have to say (and I know I'm opening myself up for criticism) the car didn't drive and feel like a sports car to me. I was disappointed and surprised. What I expect from a sports car (or even a sport GT) ... Read More
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Re: it's a complex issue [Mr_Shiftright]
1) Fiberglass weighs less than metals and is more resistant to dents. 2) Not to be rude, but do you have facts to support your assumption that Ferrari and Porsche owners won't consider the 2006 Corvette Z06? 3) Has no record in international racing? The Corvette doesn't have the racing heritage of a 911, but Porsche doesn't back the new 997 in racing. The following is from Corvettemuseum.com "[On July 10th, ... Read More
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it's porsche overpriced????
I like corvettes, their cool. I like the design of the 2005, it looks alot sharper. I really hope that the corvettes performance keep's improving as well as it's market in years to come. I dont really agree about comparing a corvette to a porsche boxter or 911. these cars are not quite a match. First, corvette has never proven itself in any of the 24hr le mans race, or perhaps ... Read More
All Things Porsche
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Cayman could and perhaps should be
death of the 911. Let's face it, a rear-engined-car is a bad idea. The once-wild 911 Turbo can be driven by a pimple-face 15-year-old with an automatic transmission! Notice how many racecars besides the 911 have a rear-mounted engines. The 2005 911 is still suffering from RMS leaks (rear main seal). This has been going on with water-cooled Porsche sports cars since the 1997 Boxster and Porsche won't fix it! It ... Read More
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Death of the 911
xkss… I agree that Cayman could be the seed of this possibility. The market is demanding increases in power. For the 911 this would seem to require bringing the engine forward. They just can't keep adding weight back there. And a 911 without a rear engine is not a 911. The more I think about the Cayman configuration, the more I think it is a test for the future "911". I ... Read More
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Buying my first Porsche
Hi, I am taking the last few careful steps before I own a Porsche. I am debating between a 2005 Boxster Conv and 2003 911(996) Carrera cab(RWD). My heart is for the latter (cant afford a new 911 though). Pardon my long post ! I wanted feedback and guidance on 3 key things : 1. Any known issues or things to watch out from a day to day or maintainence ... Read More
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