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2002 Mercedes-Benz E-Class Consumer Discussions
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Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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Re: 2003 E320 w/ 91,000 miles... [sardis12]
When I bought my 2001 E430 from a MB dealer in Mar 2006, the MB service adviser said..." If you can spend the money...go with 2005-up models. if you don't, stay with 96-2002 style. Although 2003-2009 E-class are very beautiful and elegant cars, and one day I might consider a 06-07 black/taupe model, Pre- 2005 were terrible and unreliable to the point of destroying MB's reputation with its horrible brake by ... Read More
Luxury Performance Sedans
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Re: 2007 Acura RL [mobiusf1]
I can still remember how utterly foolish I felt when my kids were growing up and for some reason or other I had to drive one of their cars...(camaro, sentra, mitsubishi, etc.) I also think our preferences can change over the years. For a long time it was either BMW or Mercedes for me but for the last 10 years or so it has been mostly Lexus, with a 2002 RL ... Read More
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Re: E55 AMG [jpstax1]
I know nothing about Mercedes-Benz cars except they're supposed to be well built, extremely reliable, and trouble free. 2002 - 2006 or so are the riskiest years for any used Mercedes product. Just absolutely horrendous quality that Mercedes is only now starting to recover from. Mercedes during that time had more lemon law buybacks than every other luxury car company combined. I would suggest considering an '04 or '05 Jaguar XJR. ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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Re: oil changes [wingman9]
I don't know how much oil the in-line 6 engine held back in 92. But the V-6 3.2 and V-8 4.3 hold about 8.5 quarts. Mercedes switched to Synthetic in a panic in 2001-2002 because the regular oil was not able to go to 10-15K that FSS was saying was the time to change the oil. The oil change in E-class is very easy. I even made a cut out in ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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My Worst Nightmare With The E Class E280
I am almost 50 and have driven numerous cars in my life. From American cars to Japanese cars to European cars. My previous car was a 2002 BMW 525i sedan. And, last year I purchased a new 2006 E280 GAS w/auto trans. SInce the beginning, it has never been satisfactory for me. It went in and out of the service garage. First, a bearing was changed after doing only 500 kilometers. ... Read More
2003 Infiniti M45 vs 2002 Mercedes-Benz E430
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Re: Need help choosing between 2003 M45 and 2002 Mercedes E430 [mrglassjaw]
why don't you look at the new M45, I'm not sure you can get any used M45 for $17k but it is a much better car than the 2003 M45. You can't compare them in terms of performance, I own both the 2006 M45 and the 2008 E350, M is a sports car and E is a comfort car, you gotta choose what you want.
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Need help choosing between 2003 M45 and 2002 Mercedes E430
So I can't choose between these two beauties. I drove the E430 and loved it because it had a smooth ride, ala Lexus. They said they sold it and I moved on to the M45 and last night they called me and said the E430 was still available, so now I'm in a dilema. Here's the specs: 2002 E430 sport: 53,500 miles, black on black, has several small paint chips, but ... Read More
Infiniti M35/45 vs. Mercedes Benz E Class 350/550
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Re: Infiniti M35/45 vs. Mercedes Benz E Class 350/550 [mmoreno1978]
No problems thus far. I had a 2002 C320 previously. The engine was flawless and never had an issue. I drove it HARD and it ran just as well as day one, but it had minor electrical issues. For instance, the cigarette lighter stopped working for no apparent reason. I suspect it was delivered with a bad lighter, but I didn't know until later because I don't smoke. Other times, I ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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Replacing fog light bulbs on 2000-2002 E-class
I left a message asking if anyone knew how to do this.... No one replied and I figured it out. Mercedes has put two plastic access pieces; one on each side. They are held shut with two plastic screws on each side. Raise the car using a floor jack, WEAR safety glasses, as you open the doors, dust/dirt drop down. Use a flash light locating the back cover of fog light ... Read More
Mercedes Benz E-Class Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: E350 lease. Did I do good/bad? [mrp]
If you're happy with the car, you got a good deal. I just purchased a 2002 E430 4matic special edition (whatever that means) if anyone knows, I'd love to hear what it is. I think it might mean the interior wood or something is a different color. It has a sunroof, cd player, teleaid, built-in phone (that was not there), heated seats, mirrors that move when you put the car in ... Read More
Luxury Performance Sedans
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Re: Comments on E-350? [jobie]
I don't have personal experience with either car, but an associate of mine is turning in his 2002 540ia sport off lease and we went out to test drive an E550 last weekend. Although it is at least as powerful in stright line acceleration as the BMW, it didn't feel as tight in handling or in structural integrity as his 5 year old 65,000 mile 540i. It is definitely a noticable ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E320 Issues
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catalytic converter&dash displays malfunctions in E320 4matic 2002
I OWN A 2002 E320 (WAGON 4MATIC)WITH 82000 MILES.THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER IS DEFECTIVE AND ALTHOUGH THERE HAVE RECALLS 0N OTHER RECENT MODELS, BENZ TOLD ME JUST TOO BAD YOU ARE OVER 80000MILES. HOW NICE IS IT..I ALSO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE DISPLAYS ,OUTSIDE TEMP & THE ONE SHOWING IN WHICH GEAR THE CAR IS.THERE HAS BEEN RECALLS ALSO , BUT NOT ON THIS MODEL....YET.IF THERE IS ANYBODY OUT THERE THAT ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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Good riddens 2002 E320
I have now sold my 2002 E320. So relieved. It has been nothing but trouble that car. I kept taking it back to the dealer for repairs and replacement of parts. Luckily I hadn't needed to pay a cent as repairs were covered under warranty. But the inconvenience of taking it there so often, on average once or more every 2 months, the receptionist learnt my first name for seeing me ... Read More
Luxury Performance Sedans
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Re: Narrowing the field [voxboy]
Are you looking for maximum or optimum? Are you looking at #1 as a "deal breaker" and #2 as less of a deal breaker? What does the ranking of "performance on slippery roads" have to do with the [broader] "safety" trait? I would assume if #1 was safety that your current #4 would have been your #2, that is. Again, "general performance," [I would argue] is a significant contributing factor to ... Read More
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Re: Wow [fonefixer]
IMHO: I would gladly take an Infiniti M and, I assume, have no regrets. The Infiniti is luxurious and, despite a 5 speed tranny, performs pretty much in the same league as either the Audi or the BMW -- the suspension is sharp and is happy to "carve up the road." I would assume this [statement] would include an E class Mercedes, too. But my wheel time with any E class ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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Re: extended warrenty [shipo]
Yes, Ja, Si, Da... My next car purchase net will be widely cast... I fully understand/believe that the CR/JDP surveys do not guarantee that the singular vehicle you purchase will be dead reliable or a money pit as a rating may indicate. I/my father have owned German, Swedish, French, US and Japaneese cars since (my earliest car memories) the late '60s. To be honest the only poor car that I can ... Read More
Luxury Performance Sedans
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The homogenized car
I think the disappearance of the stick shift is part of a larger phenomenon, which, if it runs counter to your auto-desires (as it does mine), you’ll find utterly objectionable. This larger phenomenon is that the automobile has been redefined, in America, into an homogenized one-dimensional entity the most-loved characteristic of which is to be transparent -- like comfortable shoes that you forget you’re wearing. The automobile is no longer a ... Read More
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Re: JUNE SALES? [merc1] BMW and Audi, for example
Well a lot of folks feel like you do about the new generation BMWs, but there seem to be more than enough people out there that like them so BMW is convinced all their radical changes since 2002 were right on the money. Yes, I suppose Bangle and Co. might have reached the conclusion that sales prove design choices were correct. However, they ought to give some credit to consistency of ... Read More
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Re: Getting a car with a vin that's diesel [bartalk3]
In 2002, I first drove an Audi A4 2.5TDI with all the near lux stuff and a 6 speed transmission. Initially, I had no clue the car had anything other than the then current 3.0 gas engine -- except the car was quite a bit stronger off the line (must be gearing I thought.) I did find, quickly (by asking), that I was driving a turbo diesel. Inside the car there ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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Bad design window regulators
I bought a 2001 E430 several months ago. I chose end of the cycle style rather than a 2003 new style thinking after making the older style from 1996 to 2002, Mercedes would have worked out the bugs and IMPROVED the design of all marginal parts. It does not appear that is the case. When clock/shifter/temp read out go out in 2000-2002, it will cost about $1400 to replace it. They ... Read More
Mercedes E-Class Wagons (E320, E500, E55 AMG)
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Re: What's a good year for a E320 wagon [infield]
We have a 2002 E320 4matic wagon and love it. The general consensus from Mercedes enthusiast forums is the last year of the W210 model E class is the best one. This would be yr 2002 for sedans, 2002-2003 for wagons. A lot of the problems that plagued the 1996-2000 years were ironed out by 2002. The biggies were rust problems (front spring perches and door seals)and motor mount wear. Awesome ... Read More
Mercedes Benz E-Class Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Elmer3-price deals
I am looking to buy a new automobile in september. one of the ones I am looking at is the Mercedes E- 350 wagon 4- matic( I own a 2002 now). I live in the Pittsburgh, Pa area around 9 months of the year--3 months in central Florida. I want the best deal I can get either place. Any good experiences or bad either place would be helpful. Thanks to all ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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Re: 2000 E430 need owners perspecitve -buy or not? [cse430]
cse430, I might be a little late in coming to this forum but I have a 2000 E430, RWD, with 32,000 miles. I've had the car since new and it has been wonderful. Common to Mercedes is that you will probably have to replace the rear window regulators. I did have to have my sunvisors replaced under warranty because the lids on the vanity mirrors broke off (twice) and I don't ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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Replacing cost for cracking dash and burned out displays
Does anyone know how much it costs to replace the cracked dashboard top on 99 E-class? Most develop a crack on top and lower left side of the passenger side airbag module, and how much does it cost to replace the burnt/washed out outside temp and clock display on 2000-2002 E-class. Doesn't Mercedes have any extended HIDDEN warranty on any of these items? Thanks, Joe
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Re: 2006 E350 rear right rear thumping noise [techspec1]
Yes, it is a PZEV - emission vehicle and I believe it is the canister. Thanks for the info. I am going to ask the dealer if they all sound so loud and if they can make it more quite. I have a 2002 BMW 530 that I recently listened to and it does the same thing, but I never noticed it in 4 years until now. The noise on it ... Read More
Mercedes E-Class Wagons (E320, E500, E55 AMG)
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Re: Volvo XC vs. MB E320 [blckislandguy]
blckislandguy, some of your points are valid. However, I disagree about many of them. First, I think that the Mercedes interior is far, far better. The wood in the Mercedes is better placed and looks nicer, the leather is higher quality, and the overall appearance is nicer I think. If you are comparing to the 1996-2002 E class, then yes, the Volvo may have a nicer looking interior, but the new ... Read More
Luxury Performance Sedans
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Re: Temptation! [tagman]
You won't have to buy only the BMW to get the Bangled look . . . the way it's revealing itself even on the new MB's and Lexus. Going to have to disagree here. I don't know about Lexus, but Mercedes isn't following Bangle in the least. The rear of the S-Class is from the Maybach and the Maybach concept was shown way back in 1997 - long before anyone named ... Read More
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Re: "There's no replacement for displacement. . .er, check that. . ." [lexusguy]
I am old enough to remember when "automatic transmissions" were in the LPS cars of the day and that the lesser cars had to do with "three on the tree." Perhaps you are right the engine is not the same as some of the electronics I mentioned that start at the top of the lines, but I think the spirit of what I am saying does track even with engines (but ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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Re: [kirstie_h]
Where to begin! I will not be renewing my 2002 Mercedes E-Class in December, it is the forth Mercedes we have owned. Two of the previous cars were fine examples, but the last two have not been. The current car has had four recalls, been twice on a pick-up truck (electrical issues) and had high pressure fuel pump, hose, radio and gearbox problems. As if all this were not enough it ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Diesels
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Re: Ultra clean Diesel / Benz unreliability [gagrice]
I purchased a 2005 E320 CDI in July 2004 and now have a little over 10K miles on it. So far I have no problems with it. My wife has a 2002 C320 with about 15K trouble free miles. Previously I owned a 2001 E320 and it had about 45K miles on it when I traded. I only had a very minor temperature display problem right after I purchased it. I ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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Extended warranty?
I have a 2002 E320 4Matic with about 46k miles and the manufacturer's warranty is about to run out. We've had our share of issues, mostly not serious but pesky and time consuming. Steering wheel continues to squeak, especially in warmer weather, despite repeated efforts to fix the problem. After swapping every part imaginable in the steering column, the dealer is now telling us that the squeaking is not serious and ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Diesels
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Wow -- Rude awakening
I have a 2005 E 320 CDI. To make a long story short, I decided to trade it in on a Subaru Tibeca because I am relocating and want or need an all wheel drive. The Subaru dealer called the Mercedes dealer here in Las Vegas Nevada (the only one) and was offered $33,000 for the car. I knew I was going to take a hit, but over $20,000 for basically ... Read More
Luxury Performance Sedans
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roof strength
I question whether Audirules' figures came from a reputable source. Below are some data from the reputable Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. Rollover deaths (per million registered years): lexus rx - 0 mercedes e - 0 mercedes s - 0 bmw 5 - 4 acura mdx - 6 bmw 3 - 8 bmw z3 - 12 bmw x5 - 15 acura tl - 15 infiniti g20 - 15 The full data ... Read More
Mercedes Benz E-Class Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: [ncvol]
So, so IMO. I looked at a 2002 4-matic w/ 28k miles, E2, Comand and Xenons for $32,500. It wasn't starmarked, but the private owner had a transferable 7/100k warranty. That seemed like a good deal, especially considering the car literally didn't have even the slightest ding or scratch on it (love diplomats that rent expensive homes with heated garages). I could have purchased your vehicle new in June 2001 for ... Read More
Luxury Performance Sedans
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Re: pasgener. markcincinnati [kyfdx]
Yep I saw it, guilty as charged. Hopefully I have not ticked off Audi -- but, I calls 'em as I sees 'em. The new Automobile magazine has a wake up article about German quality and reliability. Mostly the article is a big indictment against Mercedes and VW, but my interpretation of the article is that, other than Porsche and possibly BMW, the Japanese cars -- in GERMANY -- are the ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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1998 Mercedes E430
Hi, I'm asking this on behalf of my father. Anyone have a "check electronics" light on 1996-2002 E-classes that constantly flashes on in the dashboard light? As well, what is the cause of constant lightbulb burnouts? Is it the wiring? Please let me know! bszeto P.S. Anyone know what the general costs of the various electronics parts/modules(for the power driver's seat, steering wheel, mirrors, etc.)?
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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Why Mercedes
My E-class even with low profile and sport suspension does not rattle like our Honda mini-van. Our 2002 and 2005 both rattle over rough roads like mad. The Hondas definitely are not what I consider of high quality.
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Re: [bobcatman]
This guy must be paid extra for that statement or he doesn't have a LS430. My first Lexus, a 2002 with the ultra-luxury package, is a real benz-eater. I have a lot of company, including Consumers Reports, J. D. Powers and others. They are all correct. All it has needed is the periodic oil change. (I am NOT paid for any Lexus hype. Just the facts.)
Mercedes Benz E-Class Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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kwell
I can't speak for Mercedes dealers, but I am contemplating trading my 2002 S2000 for a 2004 Acura TL. The dealership (I know the owners) has been very open about the deal. The difference between what they would give me for the car ($22,500) and what they would put it on their lot for after a complete inspection and certification ($25,900) works out to about 15% gross mark-up. However, they claim ... Read More
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Need some info on used 320 MB wagon markups
I am planning to buy either a used 2000-2001 or 2002 e320 wagon. I prefer to buy from a Mercedes dealer to avail myself of the Starmark and 2.9% financing. I am getting very familiar with the inventory of these vehicles within a 100 miles of my home.*Thru browsing of dealer pre-owned website inventories. My question is this-Is there a "standard" used car markup that dealers apply to their inventory? 20% ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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no title
I have been driving both Mercedes and a Hondas in the past 4 years, the Honda has lots of rattling and body panels squeaking issues which the dealer cannot fix. There is also a nasty brake clunk which my Honda dealers (yes I tried more than one) claim it's normal. It is true that my Mercedes also have their fair share of problems but the dealer managed to correct all ... Read More
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Mercedes
First, let me correct myself... the current C-class came out in 2001 not '02. A friend of mine bought an '02 and it was a great car but, sadly, he went back to Lexus. He had to get back on the porch because he couldn't run with the big dogs anymore... LOL! Sean, the engine sizes sometimes correspond to the numbers and sometimes they don't. For instance, my friend who ... Read More
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The used Mercedes
Hey Sean. It seems to me, you can get an 96-99 E320 for close to $20k, maybe a little less depending on the miles of course. Try and find the cleanest/lowest mile unit available. Have you thought about a C230/C220? The new body style came out in 2002 and I would think the earlier models would run close to $20k or less. To me, even the previous style C-class is ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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brake pads, fog lamp lens
I have a 2002 e 320 with 20k miles and a starmark warranty.i have 2 questions and would appreciate any advice. 1. when the time comes to replace the front brake pads, is this covered under warranty? if it is not covered, is it a good idea to get them replaced by a non mercedes brake shop(to save money). 2. the front fog lamp lens cracked. is this repair coveed by ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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Re: Mercedes Resting on its Laurels [jmatone]
I have some NEWs for you too! I own a 2002 C320 and a 2005 E320 CDI and have no problems with either. Previously I owned a 1995 C280 and a 2001 E320 and had only two problems with the C280, replaced front brake pads, failed fuel pump after about 5 years and one problem with the E320, replacement under warranty of the instrument cluster due to a defective outside temperature ... Read More
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Re: MB vs Lexus [habitat1]
Since 1995 my wife and I have owned or currently own 4 Mercedes Benz autos. The first C280 was very good with only front brake pads and a fuel pump (at about 50000 mi) required. The next 2001 E320 with only one problem, temperature display requiring new instrument cluster (under warranty) traded for a 2005 E320 CDI recently (no problems yet). My wife has a 2002 C320 with about 12000 miles ... Read More
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Fensterlips
You mentioned that you didn't like the looks of the 1999-2002 E-classes...(that's just opinion). The drive train is SO much better on the newer E-class than the previous "E". We have a 1995 E320 in my family and the difference between my 2000 E compared to the older E is like night and day. My 2000 E430 performs SO much better in handling, etc. Don't get me wrong, I like the ... Read More
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Lemons
Be advised that there is a difference between buying a car and classifying it as a "Lemon", and buying a car and having a few problems. I have owned a 2000 Deville & a 2002 Deville DHS which I liked, but both cars were back at the dealer every 5 weeks to have something electronic replaced, or repaired. I didn't classify them as "lemons". My '04 MB E500, on the other ... Read More
High Performance Luxury Sedans
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Re: Such Passion Habitat1! [merc1]
Sorry, I guess I should save my passion if I ever run for political office (or, better yet, the Board of Directors of BMW)! I agree that the "supersedans" are indeed sedans and, as such, they have a broader duty than a dedicated sports car. But I'll somewhat stick to my position that 500 horsepower is enough, already. Perhaps an adjustable suspension system, like the ones popping up on Porsche and ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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Recall
As an FYI to E-Class owners, a recall was reported in this week's Automotive News. Mercedes is recalling 680,000 cars worldwide, including E-Class sedans built after March 2002 and wagons made after March 2003, because the electronic braking system has failed on some E-Class and SL-Class cars. The fix requires new software and should take about an hour, although some cars may need their hardware repaired.
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High Mileage Cars - Keeping Your Benz...
Some things come to mind with a high-mileage cars and the hope that a "Benz" will make it to that magic number: I spent 50 grand on my 2002 E-320. I hope to keep it for 10 years in the justification that, if I didn't purchase it, I would have purchased (2) vehicles in that time frame about 25/30 grand each. I do have an extended warranty with Geico (so for ... Read More
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Mileage
I'm considering buying a 2001 or 2002 E320 with less than 50k miles. I would need AWD. I've never owned a Mercedes. Questions: Just how many miles will a well-kept one go? I've heard that some make it to 500,000 or more. Any other buying advise anyone has? Thanks.
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E-Class Changes
Sometime in the near future (05' model year) I would bet that the "E320" will become the "E350" to reflect the new 3.5L DOHC Direct-injection V6 making it's debut in the 2005 SLK350. This engine makes 268hp in the SLK. I don't expect the E350 to be quite that powerful, but you can expect at least 250hp, and the 7-Seed automatic also. Since the 545i, new A6 4.2. both have 325hp ... Read More
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ncvol
I agree w/ mbnut, $34,900 sounds like too much for a 2000 E320 4-matic Wagon w/ 41k miles. Perhaps my perspective is tainted because in June of 2001, I could have purchased a brand new 2001 E320 4-matic Wagon for $2,500 under invoice when Mercedes was offering factory to dealer incentives. As I recall, that worked out to about $46,000 on the one I had priced out - including the hard ... Read More
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You Truly Can't Compare
Its All In The Eye of the Owner... ---------------------------------- Durability / Reliability... How do you actually know? You cannot guarantee that each owner treated the car the same. For one to test both of these, you have to have 2 cars (picked at random), driven the same way, the same mileage, the same routes and then see what happens after certain intervals. Say, after four years, you compare both cars and ... Read More
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sjmurray2 - The price on your 2000 E seems high
I just bought a 2002 E320 with a sports package in San Francisco Bay Area for about 40k from a dealer. 21k miles on it. 6 yrs/100k Starmark. As for which car, that is a hard one. I just sold a really nice Acura CL for my 2002 E320. I don't think the Benz will be as reliable as a Japanese car, I sometimes wish, "Why Couldn't Honda of owned part ... Read More
High Performance Luxury Sedans
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very good topic
Road & Track said that the E55 is better than Audi RS6(450 hp) because it feels more comfortable, and both can beat a corvette and keep up with a viper. WOW. I had a 1994 Jag XJ-12, but did not like the handling and electrical problems. Test drove the 2002 XJR and loved it ; more horses and better handling. All these are super high performance cars. I did not like ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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Damn I LOVE this car.....just drove it home!!!!!!!
Thanks everyone for the advice. I love the car and all the gadgets in it. I hope it's reliable, but only time will tell. So this is what I got: 2002 E320 with special package (sport package, black maple wood, ash leather). Black color. I bought a CD player for about $800. It has 20,000 miles on it and I paid about $40,000. I reseached this for about one month in ... Read More
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It's a hard decision but.......after sleeping on it:
Thanks for all the info guys! and gals! I am going back to the dealer again today to see what I can do. I don't think I can do better than the 40k. I have seen the cars here, San Francisco, go for about $42-44 for the 2002 and $50-58k for the 2003 E320. habitat1 which part of the US are you in, Washington DC? You have really good prices out ... Read More
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sfvas
To BEAM or to BENZ is up to you, but if you BENZ, I would think you could do a lot better than $40k for a 2002 E320. I checked the Washington Post and, unfortunately, they do not have many 2002's to choose from this week. A 2001 w/30k miles is listed at $31,500/ obo. My recollection is that $40k would be even be a high price for a 2002 E430, ... Read More
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To Benz or Not to Benz, that's the big question?
Well, after weeks and weeks for looking for a new 530i, I decided to look at a Starmark Benz. I was very impressed with the E320 with sport package and almost would of bought it if they would have paid me more for my trade. I love the BMW also, but just can't find a good one with the options I want. So I am thinking of going back and getting ... Read More
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Reliability
in the BMW camp, at least for the 5 series, may be an issue if you have the Steptronic tranny. I've been reading that discussion (5 series) for a month or so and am getting the distinct impression that many owners are seeing failures in the 100K mile range. But the manual Getrag owners just don't ever see a failure. Doesn't appear to be much else going wrong with them, so ... Read More
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Footie, just a thought about the E-Class; microrepair
I noticed that you were very persistent in pointing out room. Both cars are very good, but you just can't compare a Mercedes-Benz E-Class to a G35. You have an overall package with the E-Class. You have status, elegance, reputation, and well known relabilaty. Besides that when you drive, not sit in, but drive a Mercedes-Benz E-Class you get this feeling of wow what a car. $20K more? Well take into ... Read More
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E320 wagon
Jawdoc, with all of the trouble that you have had and you are still considering a new Mercedes? If I had that much trouble I would not shadow their doors again. You had SOME major issues with your '94. I have had really good luck with my current Mercedes (2000 E430 sport and my 2002 ML500), more so with the E-class. I've had a few small issues with the ML but ... Read More
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E55 "comfort"
My opinion is that the new E55 achieves both better handling and a smoother ride than the previous model. I have a 2002 M5 and thought the previous E55 (neighbor had a 2001 model) was a harsher ride than my M5. The new E55 I drove briefly several weeks ago was noticably improved. I did not try the "comfort" setting, but the standard setting seemed quite good to me. I suggest ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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2003 E 500 The worst MBZ I have owned!
I too am having the same electronic problems that have been mentioned (Gateway, etc.) Friday, my left stoplight malfunctioned and the entire assembly (LED) had to be replaced. My biggest complaint has been the rattles and noises, not just the SBC brake pump but sunroof, dashboard and seat noises. I have had my seat frame replaced twice. I have owned ten MBZ cars and have always been satisfied. This one was ... Read More
High Performance Luxury Sedans
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Regular or Premium Gas for the E320?
I am considering the purchase of a 2002 Mercedes E320. The manufacturer recommends premium gas, but I was able to use regular gas in my 6 cylinder 2000 Lexus ES300 on the advice of the mechanic) even though premium was recommended, with no problem. I would appreciate hearing from any 2002 E320 owners who use regular gas successfully, or anyone with any advice on this issue. Thank you.
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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Your 2002 Benz
If you purchased the car from an US MB Dealership, and had the car for 1 year, get an oil change and a service check up. The first 4 (once a calendar year) changes are free!!!
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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2003 E Class Electrical Problems/Solutions
I just found this board yesterday and can't believe all the problems people are having with this car. I thought it was just me as the dealer has been tight lipped about the issues. I bought a new 2003 E500 in October 2002 and had the following problems SRS/Airbags defective Tele-Aid system not working Audio-some many problems I can't list them all here but the best was when it would just ... Read More
Mercedes E-Class Wagons (E320, E500, E55 AMG)
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to ncvol
My 2002 wagon has the six-Cd changer in the rear and it is a real pain...I have no idea why it's there. I orig. thought it was for safety but all of my husband's recent cars - Mercedes and other - have the changer right where it should be...plus it's not exactly safe to stand outside your car with the lifting door wide open taking time to load cds...it's one of ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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Integrated Cellphone
I have a 2002 E320 with the integrated MB phone: A hands-free phone is great, but get an aftermarket one. www.cellport.com has an aftermarket hands-free system with voice activation that allows you to pick any cellphone you want. This same company/technology will be available in future Benzes. What you don't get if you go with any aftermarket: Steering wheel integration; Dashboard integration; full radio integration. (The cellport system will blank out ... Read More
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Well thats three German stylistic misses in the recent times: 2002 7-Series 2003 CLK 2004 5-Series I never, ever thought this would happen, but Mercedes has actually made a car whose looks I'm not crazy about, the CLK! BMW better cool it with this crap they're doing. Thank god the 3-series doesn't go under the knife until 2005. M
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chavis10
After all this time you're back! Really good to hear from you. The S62 was probably a guess on Automobile's part about what the next level of displacement would be on the AMG V12 S-Class. From 2001-2002 Mercedes sold a S63 in Europe, it was a normally aspirated 6.3L V12 with 444hp. I'm sure they didn't know that the next AMG V12 would be called the "65", which is actually a ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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Mercedes dream
I presently have a C class. My retirement car miht be a E class. But for now I'm not sure it will be a Mercedes. I have a 1998 Class it has been great. But it seem that anything made past 2002 is not so great. Does anyone really know why? Does anyone think that the cars look more Amercian now too? As it stands now I am going to buy ... Read More
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I kinda figured how those tests would come out, Mercedes just isn't going to deviate from the straight-line stability theme long enough or loosen the grip of their safety systems to match those other cars once the road starts to twist. What I am impressed with is Audi. I never thought I'd see the day C&D would rank an Audi over a BMW. Auto, Motor und Sport also picked the S4 ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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E-class
I was surprised to find a full size spare in my 2000 E430 sport. In a post way back, someone remarked that they found the small "donut" tire in their E-class. Personally, it doesn't matter to me one way or the other. The reason I noticed it was that last week someone ran into the rear of my car. The back bumper was scratched and the area under the right tail-light ... Read More
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2003 E-Class Problems
I am the owner of a new Silver 2003 E-Class. While the looks of the car are above average as most people would agree with, the quality of the build is very dismal. Below are a list of problems that have occurred since I picked my car up in October of 2002: 1. In December an annoying noise was coming from the transmission everytime I stepped on the accelerator. I brought ... Read More
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Latest Navi COMAND II Info
This is off another site. What do you think? This confirms my decision to wait for MY2004. I found some interesting detail on the Nav system in the DC media site (perhaps it showed up on an earlier thread?). Note that this is for the *European* release, but it does contain some interesting tidbits of info. I'm particularly curious why the rear seat screens are mentioned here but not avail in ... Read More
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Repair problems
I am curious, does anyone or the host of this board know whether anyone from Mercedes reads these boards or attempts to assist any one with some of these problems? Last year I bought my wife a 2002 Subaru Outback. Reading the boards beforehand made me seriously consider not buying. Nevertheless, I went ahead. That vehicle so far has been outstanding; the one problem we did have--- windshield washer wouldn't work ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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Re: greenie7
Join the club. I traded a 2000 RL on 28 Jan for a Pewter/Charcoal E-320. My RL was a fine car and I debated over a month about selling. So far I am very well pleased; had to go out in snow and ice this week and the car did just fine. I have only 300 miles on this car so what do I really know. Nevertheless, in March 2002 I ... Read More
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joeadp
Thanks for the response. I hope that you are correct. It doesn't make sense to me that Mercedes would not have included the changes when thet updated model, however I remain a little unsure because the IIHS grouped "1997 to "early" 2000's" and "late" 2000 to 2002's. BTW which 2000 E do you have and how do you like it?
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lex10 - tires
I recently went with my neighbor to Mercedes sponsored event to test drive an E500. We also noticed that the tires were "H" rated. He currently drives a 2000 E55 and I drive a 2002 M5, so we were both a little surprised. We thought it might be an anomoly on the test car, but apparantly not. My guess is that Mercedes has been receiving a lot of complaints about tire/road ... Read More
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Go try the websites - 42 E's at Clair
Well, Merc1, maybe all of these folks are faking their inventory but I don't think so. Try the website Herbchambers.com. Home page has "Entire New Inventory button", click it, select Mercedes, select E-Class They even list the VIN numbers.... They have 7 (Seven!) left over 2002 E's. You can also take a look at Mercedes of Westwood ( at clair.com ), which is a part of the Clair Motors group. They ... Read More
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footie
"Two, as Merc1 points out, it helps folks negotiate." I said that? ______________ Anyway, on this inventory thing. Can you tell me about this dealer and the number of cars they sell a year? I have a hard time believing that any dealer would have 100 E-Classes on their lot. That more than some Nissan dealers stock in Altimas. Dealers here (Chicagoland) keep about 3-5 E's on hand, and about the ... Read More
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'99 vs. '00 or newer E-class
jdjimenez---- In the 2000-2002 model year, the E-class had 1,700 changes. Most you wouldn't notice but the front hood is about an inch lower, the front bumper is smoother looking as it meets the headlights and grille, the rear trunk lid has a sharper crease, the tail lights are different, the side mirrors have turning signal indicators in them, the steering wheel has radio controls and other functions. In 2001 and ... Read More
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I may like 2002 E-320 better
I fell in love with the 1999 E-320 and finally got my wife to look at the E-320 tonight. I was a little surprised at the look of the rear of the car, not what I expected. I may decide to look for a 2002 E-320, more Mercedes like to me. James
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MB E Class Inventories for shoppers
Trolling? I don't think so. I think that folks that are looking for a good deal on one of these and can shop in the Boston area ought to be able to get a substantial discount. To eliminate the 'theory' assessment, here's the pointers to Boston's two largest dealerships with public inventory. Smaller stores only show used and starmark inventory. I checked Herb Chambers in Boston. Their online inventory is from ... Read More
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Upgrading radio in 2002 E-430
I just bought a 2002 E-430. (that's right, a 2002 which I prefered to the 2003 E500 which I test drove) Anyway, what can one do to upgrade the radio if anything? Can it be replaced, or would adding a subwoofer do much? Actually, it just doesn't seem real crisp? Its not bad, its just that my son's premium Pioneer radio in his Explorer sport is better than this one in ... Read More
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Orange peel paint
I think that it must be rare event to have bad paint on a Mercedes. I have a 2000 E430 in Brilliant Silver/ash and a 2002 ML500 in Desert Silver/java. My paint is perfect and shiny on both. I do have a few rock chips on the E. Even my '91 560SEL, Black/palomino, had a perfect paint job. I looked at the new E's the other day (Black with Stone leather, ... Read More
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Cargo net 2003 E 320
I just picked up my new 320 E. The car has a huge cargo space but no cargo net. All the attachments are installed in the trunk but NO net. My dealer war suprised when I called. Apparently the 2002 models came with the net. I know its not a big deal but when the car comes in at over $ 82000 .00 one would think that Mercedes would not be ... Read More
High Performance Luxury Sedans
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New E-55
I am on the list for a new E-55 but have some trepidation about getting it. Of the last five Mercedes I have owned- 2- 2001 E-55's, a 2002 CL500, a 2003 SL500 and a 2003 CLK500, I can safely say that the build quality left me cold on all of them except for the CLK (believe it or not) and this may just be the law of averages. My other ... Read More
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Walto
First of all thanks for the review. What I would like to hear more about is the ride handling comparisons of the '03 with the 210 both before and after your shock / tire mods. Where I am coming from is Automobiles review of the 2003 where they talked about the 2002 model handling like a drunken sailor during high speed lane changes whereas they really liked the 03. I have ... Read More
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no title
Ok you asked, this could be lengthy (lol). First of all I would, at the objection of every DCX board member, cut production down to a set number of units for each model. Mercedes is trying to do the impossible by producing 1.5 million cars with the same quality they did back when they were a building 800K cars a year. This would go a long way towards ensuring reliabilty and ... Read More
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without making this too long
#3325 of 3702 worn ball joints by rolands May 10, 2002 (12:52 pm) Has anyone heard of ball joints wearing out on a 97 E320 with 60K miles? I just got my car back from the dealership for an oil change and was told that they are worn out. They also said it would cost $1200 to replace and realign. This is freaking ridiculous. ---------------------------- #3329 of 3702 michelin by jamesr88 ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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Fan speed Regulator
I experienced the same problem last month with my 2000 E320. The fan would not react properly to inputs, auto or manual. Fortunately, my service advisor is a real pro, and he knows automobiles, particularly Mercedes. When I described the problem, he immediately knew what was wrong. I picked up the car later that day after driving a 2002 C-Class loaner (the dealer's loaner fleet is all Mercedes!). No problems since. ... Read More
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This is probably no interest to you guys, but oh well :) http://www.macobserver.com/article/2002/07/16.12.shtml Mercedes Benz Italy has decided to show off the new E-class using flat panel iMacs as their kiosks. As both an Apple employee and a Mercedes fan, I love it! :)
High Performance Luxury Sedans
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wolfx
Why don't you wait until 2005 (when the BMW V10 actually appears) to declare that AMG has lost the anything. Right now i.e. 2002 they are killing BMW in power with one engine the 5.5L Kompressor V8. A staggering 493hp. And AMG has had a V10 on the shelf for years, as is a new V12 a comin'. You think Mercedes is going to just sit and watch BMW and Audi ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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Pictures of 2003 E Class
I just returned from a trip to Europe, where I looked at the new E class at the dealer showroom. I took some pictures that you won't see at MBUSA.com, but I can't figure out how to attach them to this message. Anyway, the trunk of the 2003 seems to be a welcome 6 to 8 inches deeper. I saw one with a ski sleeve, but I didn't see any with ... Read More
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