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2001 Mercedes-Benz E-Class Consumer Discussions
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Mercedes E-Class Wagons (E320, E500, E55 AMG)
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Re: E320 seats [rcf8000]
I know this may be outdated now but I just bought a 2001 E320 Snow-white Wagon in April 2011 with standard rear wheel drive, and a low 102,000 miles- it's like a dream! Powerful V-6 221 hp, 5-Speed Tiptronic shifter. I think it is the most enjoyable car I have ever owned as it appears well maintained. I live in the Portland Oregon area my entire life. Apparently some younger people ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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Re: 2003 E320 w/ 91,000 miles... [sardis12]
When I bought my 2001 E430 from a MB dealer in Mar 2006, the MB service adviser said..." If you can spend the money...go with 2005-up models. if you don't, stay with 96-2002 style. Although 2003-2009 E-class are very beautiful and elegant cars, and one day I might consider a 06-07 black/taupe model, Pre- 2005 were terrible and unreliable to the point of destroying MB's reputation with its horrible brake by ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E320 Issues
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Re: sunland [gsdesigner]
i bought my 2001 e320 new and still have it. it is a great car. change the oil every 10,000 miles, brakes as needed etc. but, nothing out of the ordinary in taking care of this car. after warranty do not go to mercedes dealer for service because dealers are expensive in maintaining any MB. there should be no poblem getting 200,000 miles on it...
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Re: 2001 E320 w/ 68k miles too old? [jannis]
Based on my experience I would NOT buy the Mercedes. "Routine" maintance ends up anything but routine. The minute you drive into the service center you can expect them to hit the $200.00 key. What should be a simple $25.00 repair to the instrument panel is estimated to cost $1,100.00. Mercedes must have used defective or inferior parts or poor enginering decisions when they built the 2001. I've tried "working" with ... Read More
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2001 E320 w/ 68k miles too old?
My daughter is moving to LA to finish school and needs something safe to drive. We were considering a 2006 Cadillac CTS when we saw a 2001 E230 on the dealers website. Is it practical to buy such an old car? The price is affordable. Is this a car that is difficult to maintain? Is there much reliability difference between a 4 year old Cadillac and a 9 year old Mercedes? ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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2001 E320 steering wheel controls
I live in a warm and humid climate and my steering wheel control switches have been literally melting for years. The material they are made of has become soft and sticky and are an obvious distraction to the driver as well as unsightly. The dealer told me it was only because of where I live that this happens and there is no recource with Mercedes Benz.
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Re: E320 2005 Brake Rotor Replacement [smellor]
I have owned a 96 and a 2001 E320 and could never get more than 30K out of the pads and sometimes could get two pad sets out of the rotors, but not always. MB uses very soft pad and rotor material so that they wear away quickly and keep the heat build up to a minimum to prevent brake fade. One side effect is that the wheels get covered with ... Read More
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Re: Should I be charged for this? [carnaught]
Forget the dealer, go to your nearest trustworthy independent garage and get the same oil change done for well UNDER $100.. I"ve been bringing my 2001 E320 to a mechanic I've used for 15 years for all my cars once they are out of warranty and he charges me $70 for the oil and filter and resets the FSS at no charge. He charges just $70 because many of the E ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Real World MPG Numbers
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Re: Wow! I'm first ??? [navywife14]
I recently traded in my 2001 E320 4MATIC wagon for a 2007 E350 Wagon. The 2001 E320 was a great family car and the pick-up was very exceptional for 4000lbs car. (0-60 in 8 sec). the ride and handling was also flawless just like the 07 model. very subtle and smooth and agile when pushed hard. The car had 110k miles on it when i gave it up and it was ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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2001 E430 - considering buying one
Hello, I am thinking about getting a 2000-2001 E430 4Matic - ideally something that's had one owner and probably has between 75,000 and 100,000 miles. My simple question is, would I be crazy to do this? First, a little bit about me... I have always been in love Mercedes cars since my dad had a turbo diesel in the mid 80s. (Probably my favorite car ever for various reasons.) I am ... Read More
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Re: oil changes [wingman9]
I don't know how much oil the in-line 6 engine held back in 92. But the V-6 3.2 and V-8 4.3 hold about 8.5 quarts. Mercedes switched to Synthetic in a panic in 2001-2002 because the regular oil was not able to go to 10-15K that FSS was saying was the time to change the oil. The oil change in E-class is very easy. I even made a cut out in ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Warranties
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Re: Extended warranty [mergen]
My wife drives a 2001 E 320. She only has about 40,000 miles on it. We have a Platinum Policy from Warranty Warehouse. They claim it's as good as a factory warranty. Problem #1 They won't pay the labor rate at a Mercedes Dealership. The pay scale they use is something that may cover a PEP Boys repair shop. They also nickle and dime you on small things. We had both ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E320 Issues
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Anyone install trailer hitch E-Class Mercedes
I own a 2001 E55 AMG. I know that Mercedes in North America does not recommend trailer hitches, for whatever reason. Still would like to get one installed so I can tow a small trailer. www.etrailer.com has one listed here: http://www.etrailer.com/hitch-2001_Mercedes-Benz_E-Class+Sedan.htm. Anyone installed one on theirs?
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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Mercedes vs. Prestone Anti Freeze
I just changed the anti freeze in my 2001 E430 with 90K miles. The MB coolant has such a faint pink color to it, it is hard to see in the expansion tank where the level is. Does any one really think that the engine/gaskets will be damaged if the system is completely is flushed out of MB coolant, and latest version of Prestone coolant is used? I have a very ... Read More
Mercedes Benz E-Class Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: E350 lease. Did I do good/bad? [mrp]
If you're happy with the car, you got a good deal. I just purchased a 2002 E430 4matic special edition (whatever that means) if anyone knows, I'd love to hear what it is. I think it might mean the interior wood or something is a different color. It has a sunroof, cd player, teleaid, built-in phone (that was not there), heated seats, mirrors that move when you put the car in ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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Re: 2001 E-320 brakes [steve3226]
Most modern Mercedes (and many other cars) require throwing away the rotors if they have any marking or warping.
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Real World MPG Numbers
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Re: Wow! I'm first ??? [microrepair]
My husband and I are looking at the 2000 and 2001 E320 Wagon. We have never owed a Mercedes. We have a Ford Explorer and have loved it. Now we want a station wagon that will accomodate 5 passengers comfortably. We have 2 kids and want to be able to carry a couple other people. I love the fold down seats in the back and the room I'm used to in ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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Re: 2001 E430 Bad Catalytic Convertor?? [blckislandguy]
I'm assuming it's OK to mention the name of the "good" guys in this forum, so I'll say that I've bought two slightly used E-class cars from Wagner Motors in Boylston, MA, a suburb of Worcester. They have treated me very well over the last 8 years.. They will probably be known from here on as Boylston Mercedes, due to corporate's dictate on using the town/city name. The independent mechanic I ... Read More
Luxury Performance Sedans
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Hmmm
But, what if Audis A6 4.2 is LESS money than a new 535xi? Will that win friends and influence customers? Or will the 535 be somehow compared with the then most potent 6 cylinder version of the A6 (and a similar offering from Mercedes in the E class?) I do remember my friend's i6 5 series was MORE money than my V8 A6 back in 2001 -- and I had quattro ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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Re: tick tick sound at cold start.... [ray_h1]
When I dropped off my 2001 E430 with 84K to have them replace the catalytic converter, I told them about the cold engine noise what I describe as lifter noise. The service manager told me that a Mercedes with 84K miles does not develop a lifter noise. He said it was carbon build up around the valve seals, and they run some GM-made cleaner through one of the vacuum lines, and ... Read More
Luxury Performance Sedans
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Re: . [lexusguy] "That's a fact" [domenickamarc]
I have not been able to find reliability data that compares repair records of cars between, say, 50K and 100K. Have you? "Using data from the 2001-2005 surveys, we compared how the vehicle lines from the major manufacturers fared as their vehicles age. We combined manufacturers' problem rates for one-year-old vehicles from each of the five surveys and did the same for two year old vehicles, and so on. Some key ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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Re: 2001 E430 Bad Catalytic Convertor?? [bigrobnh]
Definitely American. According to Mobil's website, "Mobil 1 0W-40" is certified to meet the MB 229.5 certification. The only American lube I know of for certain that does meet Mercedes-Benz revised 229.51 spec is "Amsoil Synthetic 5W-40 European Engine Oil". There may be others including the Mobil 1 if the website hasn't been updated to reflect a recent formulation change. I do not know what the ".51" suffix brings to the ... Read More
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Re: 2001 E430 Bad Catalytic Convertor?? [ray_h1]
Guys, thanks for all of your reponses. The car is at the dealer now. I will be very ticked off if they tell me I need to pay for all of it. I don't mind paying some of it. As I said, the last time I had a catalytic converter problem, it was with my 1977 Buick. With 14 cars/trucks since 1978, this is the second car with this issue. The ... Read More
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Re: 2001 E430 Bad Catalytic Convertor?? [ray_h1]
The benz dealer I go to uses Mobil-1 synthetic. Is that American or one of these pricey Europeans? BigRob.
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Re: 2001 E430 Bad Catalytic Convertor?? [jodar96]
The extended Federal Emissions Warranty for catalytic converters is 8 yrs/80,000 miles so it appears the catalytic converter replacement will be on your nickel. The other unit probably is not far behind. Some motor oil formulations are heavy in their zinc dialkyl-dithiophosphate additive treat rate used as an antiwear agent (for which it's very effective - and cheap to boot). Inevitably any reciprocating internal combustion engine will burn at least some ... Read More
Luxury Performance Sedans
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VW and Audi
"VW had the cars, but they went on a buying spree, decided they wanted a piece of the S class, and left them on the market for a decade." Lexusguy, I agree. Former CEO Ferdinand Piech steered Volkswagen off course in the 1990s by trying to take the VW brand upmarket to challenge Mercedes. At the same time, as Business Week put it, "he took his eye off the company's core ... Read More
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Re: Car People [pat]
Selling England by the Pound -- Genesis. You win the cupie doll, Pat! Here in Cincinnati, the new generation of BMW's with that spanky new "35" twin turbo engine are rolling out -- at this point, the 335 sedan and coupes are RWD, but already the 328 is offered with AWD and next year the X drive option will be added for about $1900. It promises to be a brisk seller. ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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Re: love/hate [bigrobnh]
I've had to replace four sun visors in the 2001 E 430 I bought new. Cheap plastic and bad design. The flip up lids break off/fall out. Mercedes rep. has no solution, no upgrade. have a failed bulb warning lamp. Replacing number 6 fuse in the dash fuse box just blows another fuse. Mechanic has spent two hours searching for the short, no luck. Just installed new harmonic balancer at 60k ... Read More
Luxury Performance Sedans
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Re: Diesels [dan339g]
Welcome to my cause -- I've enjoyed several diesels over the past five years in the UK & on the continent. The low-end torque is intoxicating & the fuel economy is the icing on the cake. Audi, VW, Ford, Citroen & Peugeot all offered 40+ mpg & stump-pulling, shift-only-if-you-feel-like-it performance (& all had manuals). Like you, in 2001 I was stunned at the quiet & odor-free performance of these vehicles. What's ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Real World MPG Numbers
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Wow! I'm first ???
I had a 1996 E320 that gave me approx. 22 mpg in mostly around town and short (10 miles at a time) highway travels. On long trips, from Mass. to Florida, I used to get almost 28 mpg. I now have a 2001 E320 that gives about 25 mpg in a mix of highway (40%) and rural roads (60%) on a round trip of 60 miles. On long trips, (last winter ... Read More
Luxury Performance Sedans
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Re: Mercedes models rated "most reliable" [bw45sport]
The only thing that video really shows is that a Mercedes was a much simpler car back then. The physical build of a of certain Mercedes has changed dramatically for sure (first generation ML, W220 S-Class and 2001 C-Class comes to mind), so I think the fair thing to say is that they aren't all built the same anymore. Some of the newer models are physically built as robust as car ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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Re: Repair problems [garyh1]
My parents have a 2000 E320. They've had 3 rear window mechanisms fail. For them, it doesn't just stop working. The window starts up, then drops the glass so suddenly that it shatters. 3 of them...that means they've replaced at least one with another faulty part. They live in Florida and I'm convinced it's heat related. My 2001 has not had it happen. I live in New Hampshire. I have several ... Read More
Audi A6 4.2 vs Mercedes E350 4matic
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Re: Audi A6 4.2 vs Mercedes E350 4matic [reality2]
I'm curious as to how many miles you folks put on your Audis before you trade or sell them. And the same for the E-class owners. I've looked closely at the A6 V6's also but ended up owning 2 E320's. Maybe you don't keep them long enough to have any problems show up. The last three cars I have owned and used for myself have had 99K, 140K, and my current ... Read More
Luxury Performance Sedans
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Re: german [lexusguy]
Using a single number or rank though for an entire brand is not very useful. "Volvo is ranked X, Mercedes is ranked Y" is largely useless information, as is CR's "predicted" score. I agree with you on brand rankings, and the absolute differences behind them are fairly small in any case. Despite the "average" predicted rating, owners of '05 S40s reported many more problems in specific areas than owners of '05 ... Read More
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Re: german [calhon]
The 2007 S80 is a totally new model none of which have been delivered to customers. Therefore, any reasonable comments regarding it's expected reliability must be based on the brand's history. You are making such predictions while denying any interest in brand reliability. I agree that you need to look at the history of a brand's cars for a totally new model. Using a single number or rank though for an ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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Using dino oil in 2001 E430
Can I use dino oil in my used E430 with 75K miles? I have no intention of ever going to FSS's 10K mile interval. I just changed the oil for the first time. Last oil change was done at 70K. I put 0W40 Mobil one in for now. I think MB was using dino oil in these engines with Flex Service that came out in 1998. Once they had issues with ... Read More
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Bad design window regulators
I bought a 2001 E430 several months ago. I chose end of the cycle style rather than a 2003 new style thinking after making the older style from 1996 to 2002, Mercedes would have worked out the bugs and IMPROVED the design of all marginal parts. It does not appear that is the case. When clock/shifter/temp read out go out in 2000-2002, it will cost about $1400 to replace it. They ... Read More
Mercedes Benz E-Class Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: lcd1 [lcd1]
That is how Toyota is. I purchased the Land Cruiser new in 2001 with every option. While it was a great car, the service was horrible. I put a lot of mileage on my cars, and at 3.5 years old it had 70000 miles, and thus required service frequently. What ticked me off the most was the loaner policy. I owned many Land Rovers, Mercedes Benzs and BMW before, and while ... Read More
Mercedes E-Class Wagons (E320, E500, E55 AMG)
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Re: Volvo XC vs. MB E320 [blckislandguy]
blckislandguy, some of your points are valid. However, I disagree about many of them. First, I think that the Mercedes interior is far, far better. The wood in the Mercedes is better placed and looks nicer, the leather is higher quality, and the overall appearance is nicer I think. If you are comparing to the 1996-2002 E class, then yes, the Volvo may have a nicer looking interior, but the new ... Read More
Luxury Performance Sedans
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Re: They Ain't Gonna Sell [gohorns1]
I have had only minor [Audi, BMW, VW] problems since my first Audi in 1977. I gather some folks are not satisfied with the level of reliability that have been associated with Audis, BMW's and Mercedes over some not too distant past time frame. I had two Audi A6 4.2's that had between them 9 sets of brake rotors. The MY's were 2000 and 2001. I had an On*star problem with ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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Problem with 2001 E320. Anyone experienced this?
Noticed a problem with my 01 E320 over the past month. It only happens under heavy acceleration. When you punch the throttle to speed up rapidly as if to pass, the car really bogs down and struggles to gain speed. The tach revs up but the car just doesn't go. This also happens from a standstill if the car is "punched" to accelerate. Doesn't happen if you ease into the throttle ... Read More
Mercedes E-Class Wagons (E320, E500, E55 AMG)
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Volvo XC vs. MB E320
I have three all wheel drive wagons, a 1998 Volvo V70 XC, 2004 MB E320 4-Matic, and a 2005 BMW 325xiT. blckislandguy asks why buy an E class? There are several reasons I chose to get an E class over another XC when I gave the XC to my son. One reason is that I really didn't like how it drove. The steering on the new XC didn't feel very well ... Read More
Luxury Performance Sedans
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Re: bmw . . . Audi squandered its key differentiator. . . [lexusguy]
I believe both 5th and 6th gear are overdriven on the 6spd tip. To peat and repeat: this transmission coupled with the 3.2L V6 in this Audi is the best automatic transmission I personally have ever experienced. It NOW has virtually no lag -- especially since I drive it in "S" mode. The issue and some folks LIKE this, is that the transmission retains second gear when slowing down but NOT ... Read More
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Re: Mare's eat oats and Doe's eats oats. . .and anecdotes. . . [brightness04]
Here is how this has worked, even though I wonder why bother to explain given that I am almost certain these responses are unlikely to sway any one to do anything (even if that were my intention, which it is NOT). I got my first Audi in 1977 -- the company that I worked for actually allowed me to go pick a car, they leased it, they made the payments, I ... Read More
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Mare's eat oats and Doe's eats oats. . .and anecdotes. . .
. . .Between my wife, a handful of company cars (all Audis) and me, we have had two dozen plus Audis, one VW Jetta, one VW Quantum, one BMW 325ix, and one American Eagle (I thought it was a quattro, I was misinformed) prior to our current 2005 A6 and X3. Of our German cars, ONE, one time left us stranded (it was an Audi 90CS quattro and it lost its ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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Re: Extended warranty? [flyered]
I don't have much to add other than my 2001 E320 4matic also has the squeaky (it sounds more like a plastic on plastic or rubber on rubber moan on my car) steering wheel. Also only in warmer weather. I mentioned to them that I thought it was related to temperature change. Of course I know nothing. They changed a power steering boot. Well, it took two tries, first time it ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Diesels
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Re: Ultra clean Diesel / Benz unreliability [gagrice]
I purchased a 2005 E320 CDI in July 2004 and now have a little over 10K miles on it. So far I have no problems with it. My wife has a 2002 C320 with about 15K trouble free miles. Previously I owned a 2001 E320 and it had about 45K miles on it when I traded. I only had a very minor temperature display problem right after I purchased it. I ... Read More
Luxury Performance Sedans
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Re: What is the best LPS? [frisconick]
From my own personal experience I would only go with the Benz if the dealership is very close to where you live or work. Better yet, some form of personal reference regarding their service department would also help. My 2001 has had LOTS of problems...I have a stack of service records several inches deep. The thing that is maddening is that it's as if (at the time) they had no quality ... Read More
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New meat
I did not expect to be in the market for a new LPS. I was driving to meet someone for dinner in my 2001 BMW 540i, a great car, when I had to lock up the brakes to avoid hitting a car that pulled out in front of me. The guy behind me in a 1990 Caravan did not have the same stopping power and totaled my car. I live in ... Read More
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Spinning along. . .
All good points, all hit some target's bulls-eye. This report showing Audi has slipped to the bottom of the heap has to be particularly galling (to Audi and its most loyal fans) no matter how we try to spin it. Were I a completely objective observer (I'm not) and at least somewhat aware of the concepts of "retailing" (I'm at least an amateur at this), I would think that the Audi ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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Re: My Gawd! [microrepair]
I strongly agree with pottsie on the dealer quality statement. My dealer must be one of the few good ones. I have no complaints with their work or attitude. And no complaints with either the 96 E320 I sold at 140K miles or my current 2001 E320 with 60K miles I think that we're comparing apples to oranges here. The 1996 E class was an entirely different car, built by an ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class: Accessories & Modifications
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Radio Problems
I have a 2001 Mercedes with horrible radio sound quality. The CD sounds great, but with the radio I have intermittent problems with the quality, or tone, of the music going bad. Sometimes the right speakers turn off completely, then the sound returns to perfect. They replaced the radio, the amplifier and they say they have checked all of the wiring. Next they want to replace the antenna amplifier. Any similar ... Read More
Mercedes Benz E-Class Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: [ncvol]
So, so IMO. I looked at a 2002 4-matic w/ 28k miles, E2, Comand and Xenons for $32,500. It wasn't starmarked, but the private owner had a transferable 7/100k warranty. That seemed like a good deal, especially considering the car literally didn't have even the slightest ding or scratch on it (love diplomats that rent expensive homes with heated garages). I could have purchased your vehicle new in June 2001 for ... Read More
Luxury Performance Sedans
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Re: $55K Sport Luxury Comparision [hpowders]
Until money is no object, I find C&D's inclusion based on price quite valid indeed. My 2001 A6 4.2 sport cost within a few dollars the same as my friend's 2001 BMW 530 (they were both right at $50K MSRP). Why NOT evaluate the cars based on the cost as "A" factor. Why not, then, evaluate the cars based on all RWD or AWD or FWD or the color blue? MSRP ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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love/hate
Afternoon folks, I used to contribute occasionally to this forum but have taken a year or so off. I have to say I have a love/hate relationship with my car. I have a 2001 E320 4matic that I picked up brand new in March of 01. When the vehicle is working it is the most amazing car I can imagine owning. Ride is impeccible, good power, great features, size is ... Read More
Mercedes Benz E-Class Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Need some info on used 320 MB wagon markups
I am planning to buy either a used 2000-2001 or 2002 e320 wagon. I prefer to buy from a Mercedes dealer to avail myself of the Starmark and 2.9% financing. I am getting very familiar with the inventory of these vehicles within a 100 miles of my home.*Thru browsing of dealer pre-owned website inventories. My question is this-Is there a "standard" used car markup that dealers apply to their inventory? 20% ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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Re: Can I say the C-word here? [sean3]
Sean 1) I think it would be informative for you if you actually read the JDPowers site about how they do their studies. They ask questions of several hundred thousand vehicle owners. The answers are reported as problems per hundred cars. If Mercedes, or any other car company, was being unfairly rated, their lawyers would have JDP in court in a blink. They aren't, so the results you see are ... Read More
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Mercedes
First, let me correct myself... the current C-class came out in 2001 not '02. A friend of mine bought an '02 and it was a great car but, sadly, he went back to Lexus. He had to get back on the porch because he couldn't run with the big dogs anymore... LOL! Sean, the engine sizes sometimes correspond to the numbers and sometimes they don't. For instance, my friend who ... Read More
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sfvic & r1_97
I just traded my 96 E320 in April for a 2001 E320. Two years ago at 115K miles I had to replace the starter, front rotors, all brake pads, shocks, serpentine belt for approx. $1600. Six months later at 125K miles I had an oil leak in the head gasket. One dealer quoted $1700 (no loaner), an independent garage quoted $1900 (no loaner) and my selling dealer quoted $1350 with a ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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Re: Lack of Response [rrusso1]
I've noticed the same thing on my 2001 E320 that I bought 5 months ago. At first I thought it might have been the throttle-by-wire (I think that's whats in the E-class now ??) but it is more likely the adaptive transmission. Mine doesn't do it constantly, only occasionally. I appears as though it happens when I have been driving in a very docile manner and have stopped for a light ... Read More
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brakes make a grinding noise when released, 2001E320
I am posting this again since the thread to a reply was old. I bought a certfied pre-owned 2001 E320 2 months back. ACcording to the dealer it goes over a rigorous inspection, in certification problem, and is certified by Merceded to be problem free, cost of this being 3000$ extra. I test drove 3 E320's in three different dealerships, and all made a grinding sound, when releasing the brakes, especially ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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Re: Contemplating 98 E [stvjef]
A 7 year old E320 for $18k doesn't seem like a very good price, at least in my area (DC). I've seen 2001's going for the low to mid $20's. As I've posted, I am not disputing that Mercedes can last a long time if properly maintained. I'm just pointing out, along with others, that repairs and maintenance will be a much bigger ticket than a Toyota or Honda.
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Re: should i buy mb e320 1997? [abd2]
Again, I would just point out that there are other alternatives for a "second car" than a cheap to buy, but potentially risky to maintain 1997 E320. For example, back in 2001 I bought a new Honda S2000 for $32,000, drove it for 2 1/2 years and 19,000 miles and traded it in for $22,000. If I had wanted to go through the hassle of selling it privately, I likely would ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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Re: Are the E320 CDI's having problems (yet) [tlamb]
Note: The following also posted on the Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans Board. I took delivery of an E320 CDI on 7/9/2004 from Star Motor Cars here in Houston, Texas. At my last fill up I only had 2053 miles on it. Since delivery I have had no problems and my mpg is 27.9 which is mostly in city driving. I recently drove to Dallas and back and averaged 35.33 mpg. I have ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Diesels
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Re: To Buy or Not to Buy, That is The Question [tlamb]
Note: The following also posted on the Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans Board. I took delivery of an E320 CDI on 7/9/2004 from Star Motor Cars here in Houston, Texas. At my last fill up I only had 2053 miles on it. Since delivery I have had no problems and my mpg is 27.9 which is mostly in city driving. I recently drove to Dallas and back and averaged 35.33 mpg. I have ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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Re: Laurels...
jmatone: I just sold a 96 E320 4 months ago with 140,000 miles on the odometer. Until it hit 115,000 there was only one problem: the rubber bushings in the front end sway bars and tie rod ends had to be replaced. It was done under the Starmark warranty. At 115K it needed shocks, serpentine belt, and brake rotors and pads, none of which are failures; but wear items.. It did ... Read More
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Re: Mercedes Resting on its Laurels [jmatone]
I have some NEWs for you too! I own a 2002 C320 and a 2005 E320 CDI and have no problems with either. Previously I owned a 1995 C280 and a 2001 E320 and had only two problems with the C280, replaced front brake pads, failed fuel pump after about 5 years and one problem with the E320, replacement under warranty of the instrument cluster due to a defective outside temperature ... Read More
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Re: MB vs Lexus [habitat1]
Since 1995 my wife and I have owned or currently own 4 Mercedes Benz autos. The first C280 was very good with only front brake pads and a fuel pump (at about 50000 mi) required. The next 2001 E320 with only one problem, temperature display requiring new instrument cluster (under warranty) traded for a 2005 E320 CDI recently (no problems yet). My wife has a 2002 C320 with about 12000 miles ... Read More
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Re: Lemons [barry45rpm]
I think you are a bit confused about Lexus and Mercedes Benz. Yes MB has a longer history, but that does not mean that their quality is up to par with Lexus. Volkswagen and GM also have been around longer than Lexus and their quality isn't exactly #1. I have a 2001 LS430 and a 2003 ML350. I love the LS430, and my wife loves the ML350 (her car). I have ... Read More
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Replies from E55 driver
merc1: "A bunch of relatively minor things with your E55 huh. That is Mercedes biggest problem because I'm sure if you get a survey it won't be good for Mercedes." Actually, no, I have been rather pleased and will complete the survery as such. My philsophy with cars is that the more expensive the car, the more things will go wrong and I will spend more time at the dealership. This ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Diesels
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Re: Mercedes-Benz E320 CDI [pat]
I replaced a 2001 E320 with a 2005 E320 CDI last Saturday. So far I have about 250 miles with no problems. I believe it drives a little better than my previous E320; however, there is not a lot of difference. The diesel engine seems just as quick as the gasoline engine. I suppose time will tell if the diesel engine is much more economical than the gasoline engine.
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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clpurnell
I've decided to get the Acura TL instead of the E320 CDI, but I remain impressed with the CDI. The dealership I am buying from happens to have Acura, Mercedes, and Saab. The sales manager drove an E320 CDI from Pennsylvania to North Carolina last weekend to deliver it to his cousin. According to his calculations, he averaged 37.3 mpg on the trip of over 600 miles. And that's with varying ... Read More
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Lease vs. buy
merrel, I can do financial analysis in my sleep, but there is no absolute objective answer to this analysis and for you to suggest buying is always better than leasing is inaccurate, at best. For the record, I have only bought my cars, whether titled in my name for personal use or in my company's name for business use and depreciation. However, I typically buy cars with the intention of keeping ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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Problems & Suggestions
At the hour the WTC was collapsing on 9/11/01, I was signing paperwork for my 'supposedly new' 2001 E430 from a NC Benz dealer, and watching televsion at the same time. When the AM radio band didn't bring in a single station ever-- I investigated and discovered the rear end had been re-built after being wrecked and whomever rebuilt the car did NOT re-install new radio antennas. MB/North America didn't want ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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Mileage
I'm considering buying a 2001 or 2002 E320 with less than 50k miles. I would need AWD. I've never owned a Mercedes. Questions: Just how many miles will a well-kept one go? I've heard that some make it to 500,000 or more. Any other buying advise anyone has? Thanks.
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microrepair, siulobow
microrepair, It's a free country and Massachusetts' dealers can ask whatever they want for E320 Wagons if the buying public is willing to pay it. However, I uncovered my old deal that I did not take on a brand new 2001 E320 4-matic wagon, E1, multicontour seats and metallic paint dated June 4, 2001: $46,650. Price included destination, not taxes or tags. Price on a non 4-matic was $43,950. Now if ... Read More
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E-Class Changes
Sometime in the near future (05' model year) I would bet that the "E320" will become the "E350" to reflect the new 3.5L DOHC Direct-injection V6 making it's debut in the 2005 SLK350. This engine makes 268hp in the SLK. I don't expect the E350 to be quite that powerful, but you can expect at least 250hp, and the 7-Seed automatic also. Since the 545i, new A6 4.2. both have 325hp ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Maintenance and Repair
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2001 E320 is trying to tell me something!
Don't know if anyone has heard of this before, but I figured I would ask here before taking our 2001 E320 in for service. The car was recently serviced (45,000 miles) and everything was fine. About a two weeks after the service was done, I started hearing a "beep" while driving the car. It sounds like an old cell phone message indicator, just a single beep that lasts only a few ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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ncvol
The "Starmarked" feature may be worth a couple of thousand as you suggest, especially if it takes your warranty up to 100k miles. If/when you call HBL, ask them if their E320 Wagon is Starmarked and if not, why. They have a reasonably good reputation here in the DC area, although I will likely buy from Euromotors if/when the time comes. The car you are considering probably had an MSRP close ... Read More
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ncvol - follow up
Today's Washington Post: 1) 2001 E320 4-Matic Wagon, Loaded, Exc. Cond., $28,999 (VOB Nissan - 301-770-6100). 2) 2000 E320 4-Matic Wagon, Loaded - Every Option, Exc. Cond., $26,999 (VOB). 3) 2000 E320 Wagon, Flawless Porsche Trade, Loaded, $26,995 (HBL Mercedes/Porsche - 703-442-8200) 4) 2000 E320 Wagon, Black, Sunroof, CD, heated seats, exc. condition 52k miles, $25,800 (private sale). I have seen used Mercedes at both VOB and HBL and when they ... Read More
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ncvol
I agree w/ mbnut, $34,900 sounds like too much for a 2000 E320 4-matic Wagon w/ 41k miles. Perhaps my perspective is tainted because in June of 2001, I could have purchased a brand new 2001 E320 4-matic Wagon for $2,500 under invoice when Mercedes was offering factory to dealer incentives. As I recall, that worked out to about $46,000 on the one I had priced out - including the hard ... Read More
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Questions From A Dissapointed BMW 5 Driver Considering the E320
I have a 2001 BMW 530i that is coming off lease. As with many others, I am really put-off by the appearance of the new BMW 5 series. I am giving very serious consideration to the 2004 E320. I have spent only a few minutes behind the wheel of a 2004 RWD E320 -- not enough yet. I should have an opportunity for a more extensive test ride in the near ... Read More
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sfvas
To BEAM or to BENZ is up to you, but if you BENZ, I would think you could do a lot better than $40k for a 2002 E320. I checked the Washington Post and, unfortunately, they do not have many 2002's to choose from this week. A 2001 w/30k miles is listed at $31,500/ obo. My recollection is that $40k would be even be a high price for a 2002 E430, ... Read More
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E versus 5
I also found another CAR article that compared the long-term prospects of the E class versus the 5 series and while conceding the 5 series is the better choice in terms of athletic ability, they concluded that the previous generation E class up to 2001 has had much better reliability and durability than the 5 series. They had a list of typical repairs and the costs for both vehicles. In general, ... Read More
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Reliability
in the BMW camp, at least for the 5 series, may be an issue if you have the Steptronic tranny. I've been reading that discussion (5 series) for a month or so and am getting the distinct impression that many owners are seeing failures in the 100K mile range. But the manual Getrag owners just don't ever see a failure. Doesn't appear to be much else going wrong with them, so ... Read More
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Jawdoc
Your story of the Benz brass in Germany is probably accurate. I have an office outside of Munich and the people there are very bright and articulate but they have a hard time understanding other cultures. They have a strong nationalistic pride which is a good thing but I know that it gets in the way of open minded decision making. The Germans feel that their way is always the best ... Read More
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E55 "comfort"
My opinion is that the new E55 achieves both better handling and a smoother ride than the previous model. I have a 2002 M5 and thought the previous E55 (neighbor had a 2001 model) was a harsher ride than my M5. The new E55 I drove briefly several weeks ago was noticably improved. I did not try the "comfort" setting, but the standard setting seemed quite good to me. I suggest ... Read More
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Replacement tires
I am looking to replace the OEM Michelin MXV4 tires that came with my 2001 4-matic wagon. The mnileage has been great (40,000)with a reasonable amount of tread left, but the tires have been plagued with punctures, leaks etc. MY Mercedes dealership recommends replacing with the same tire. Does anyone have any suggestions for a replacement tire, I have considered the Michelin energy MXV4 Plus and the Bridgestone Potenza Re 950. ... Read More
Mercedes E-Class Wagons (E320, E500, E55 AMG)
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LATCH System in E320
Hi - I currently own a 2001 Volvo XC70 and the lease is coming to an end. My first thought was to get another XC, but after driving my parents E320 wagon and reading some reviews, I am contemplating buying a used E320 Wagon. One feature that I will definitely want is the LATCH system for car seats. Can anyone tell me when Mercedes started installing the LATCH into the Wagon? ... Read More
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E55
Well my neighbor who traded his 2001 E55 for a 2003 E500 is now considering an E55 and grabbed me for a "premier" test drive over the weekend. All I can say is that if you are hungry for power, this beast is a feast. As for the necessity of 469 horsepower and 516 ft lbs of torque, I was reminded of the "Field of Dreams" voices: if you build it ... Read More
Mercedes E-Class Wagons (E320, E500, E55 AMG)
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no title
The 2001 and on C-class Mercedes has the 6disk CD changer in the glove compartment
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COMMAND/NAV system
If you read the last paragraph of the letter, it looks like you must have paid up front to get this offer. My reccomendation is not to deal with the dealer. Instead talk to the Mercedes area rep. Ask the dealer for his number. If they won't give it to you, call the headquarters in NJ and get it from them. I had a problem with my 2001 C. I dealt ... Read More
Mercedes E-Class Wagons (E320, E500, E55 AMG)
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No CD Player?
Can someone please confirm this for me? I've been looking into getting a used E320 wagon, preferably 1999-2001 (amongst several other wagons), and it seems as if a CD player does not come standard, and if you get it as an option, it is not part of the front console, but rather back in the rear of the vehicle. This seems absurd for a high-end car like a Mercedes, considering that ... Read More
High Performance Luxury Sedans
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chavis10
After all this time you're back! Really good to hear from you. The S62 was probably a guess on Automobile's part about what the next level of displacement would be on the AMG V12 S-Class. From 2001-2002 Mercedes sold a S63 in Europe, it was a normally aspirated 6.3L V12 with 444hp. I'm sure they didn't know that the next AMG V12 would be called the "65", which is actually a ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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17" Mercedes wheels
I'm ready to make the jump to 17" wheels on my 2000 E-320, which came with 16" wheels. I like the look of the Mercedes wheels that came with the sport package on the 2001 E-Class models. Does anyone know a dealership that will discount these and ship them to my tire store in Atlanta? Any other thoughts?
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Mercedes purchase #4856 Clembo
Mercedes are purchased from dealers not from Mercedes. Every dealer is an independent business and determines its own sales price. Several months ago I posted my method for purchasing cars which has worked well for me. Last week I bought a new volvo for a friend for $266 over factory cost which is determined by subtracting incentives and holdback from the invoice price. Holdback is 3 percent of MSRP on a ... Read More
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no title
I kinda figured how those tests would come out, Mercedes just isn't going to deviate from the straight-line stability theme long enough or loosen the grip of their safety systems to match those other cars once the road starts to twist. What I am impressed with is Audi. I never thought I'd see the day C&D would rank an Audi over a BMW. Auto, Motor und Sport also picked the S4 ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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habitat1
I'll do a summary. Most issues relate to the E in general...however I have had multiple issues on the drive train. I have a 2001 E320 4Matic. In service 3 times to replace two fan speed regulators that disabled the climate control system. First time returned without problem fixed stating no trouble found and lectured me on how the computerized climate control system works (think I set a blood pressure record ... Read More
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no title
Yes the C-Class was totally redesigned for 2001, but for 2004 it will get a "facelift" not a total redesign. You know like the S-Class got this year and the E-Class got for 2000. With the new E-Class Mercedes seems to have hit the nail right on the head. It's good looking inside and out, of higher quality than the previous car and everyone seems to love the new Airmatic DC ... Read More
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans
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seats
My 2 cents on this issue. I have the ventilated seats on my 2001 S500. They are nice in the summer, yes. But not really necessary, as stewart said well, above. The A/C will do. Only after I played a pick up game and got really sweaty did the cooling/drying feature became an asset. The massaging seats are pretty worthless. You will not feel them after a month of use. If ... Read More
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