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My 2010 MKS definitely does not have the precise tight steering of 2011 Lacrosse CXS with touring pack. My intent is to improve that. Doing a bit of left-right-left,etc. sway of steering wheel, it also produces an uneven suspension diagonally. L Front to R Rear is the weaker. Normal driving with bump rate on some roads hints of the same. Before setting out on yesterdays drive I checked tires pressures. The ... Read More
Asking price through dealer is 26k, it has 43k miles on it. The pull for me is the AWD (I am a daily skiier, and want to get to the mountain) and really do not want another SUV! I love the bling of the Lincoln, and became a Ford lover with my '07 Edge. That said, the '07 Edge, as much as I loved it, is a gas hog. I traded ... Read More
Great to see a lot of familier names from the Lincoln LS forum now commenting here. I still have my 2000 V6 w/125,000 miles and never a REAL problem of any kind to date. I have never driven the winters - so that may have helped mine stay so nice inside/out. I also have a 2003 Town Car Cartier L - with lots of extra room, but I got stuck this ... Read More
I really find it quite amusing when people make the comment the Lincoln models are just "dressed up Fords". Um - hello - Lexus dressed up Toyota... Um - hello - Acura TL - dressed up Honda... Um - hello - Infinity - dressed up Nissan... Um - hello - Cadillac - dressed up Chevy/Buick/Olds/Saturn/GMC... They ALL do it! The issue I have is making it sound like the 2010 Taurus ... Read More
Agreed, I still have my 2009 and I have my reasons for keeping it even though it is not the perfect vehicle. Besides (looking at my watch), it is still a free country. Adding a hood light is not much of an effort or cost. Mine is red and I had it professionally tinted. It really sets the red off. I have received many comments on this move. I plan on ... Read More
I have had that kind of problem yet. I have discovered that I get better service from a Ford dealer than a Lincoln one. They will honor your warranty and the one I take my mks to seems to do a better job.
Very few people would choose the Town Car or Grand Marquis looks over the MKS True enough. The TC and GM look like the very old designs they are now. But the 1990 Town Car and 1998 Town Car designs stood out in the marketplace at introduction far more than the very conservative, Asian-flavored and vaguely bulbous MKS. And the marketplace has spoken. Lincoln may not be losing money on the ... Read More
My Lincoln 2009 MKS has 18000 miles in it; I had an oil leak from leaking seal. I needed to take back my car 3 times to the service when they finally found it and fixed. The car is slow and underpowered. Overall, the performance and quality as well as the service fall short. I take back my car severall time to the dealership was told me that the car is ... Read More
My wife and I have had 29 Audis, 3 BMW's, 3 VW's and, as I recall, a Chrysler Cordoba with fine Corinthian leather (all since 1975) -- yep, I am an old fart at 58. I started down a path over the past 10 years of thinking it would be a good thing to have an American car. But I believe in voting with your dollars (in other words, if you ... Read More
Sorry to hear of all the problems you guys are having with your new Lincoln MKSs. This just proves the adage that if you want reliability, get a Lexus or Acura. The shame is that Lincoln is charging 40k to 53k for a dressed up Taurus (same car).
You could try this one: http://www.luxist.com/2009/07/13/review-2010-lincoln-mks-with-ecoboost-who-needs- -a-v8/
I am afraid as we move forward the MKS days may be numbered as the struggle continues to try and get more with less. Times and priorities change. Will the MKS in its current form be around 5 years from now? I doubt it. The same could be said for most of today's cars regardless of brand. Actually, the downward economy and resulting lower car sales has helped make the MKS ... Read More
The local Lincoln dealer is offering some outstanding deals on their 2009 MKS inventory. This model has not sold particularly well here in Florida and there are many 2009's still available. At the recent MKT launch event they had an equal number of MKS sedans parked alongside the new vehicles in an attempt to move some inventory. The question is: are the 2010 models significantly different than the 2009? I've seen ... Read More
I just got a 2009 MKS. I have 3500 km on it. (Canada) It has been wonderful to drive. Powerful, sure footed and technologically impressive. I have had one problem. the subwoofer sounds like it is loose. My home theatre sound system booms. This one vibrates and rattles. The dealer staff say there is nothing wrong with it but there is. I don't want to sound like some "suped up" '85 ... Read More
cadillac CTS 2009 also has direct injection model , is it the same? I know you realize this already, but just to be sure we are all on the same thoughts, Cadillac is a GM car, and the MKS is a Lincoln (which is part of Ford) so on that level, no, they are not at all the same. If you mean is the GM direct injection engine as good as ... Read More
cadillac CTS 2009 also has direct injection model , is it the same?
Media Ford has some new information about suspension and structural enhancements for the 2010 MKS. Below is an excerpt from the site. Kudos to Ford for taking a 1 year old model and upgrading it already. While the 2009 was smooth and quiet, the 2010 should be even better and more competitive with the prestige nameplates. For 2010, Lincoln MKS was been treated to a ground-up review of its structure in ... Read More
Me, I will wait for a Lincoln that people really notice when I drive by. That is a big difference between you and me. I don't have the need to be noticed. I have no sympathy for people who take a short test drive, buy the car because it is pretty, and then complain about something that they should have noticed before purchase. Gregg, I am not suggesting you would do ... Read More
Over at autofiends.com, they spend most of the time talking about the engine: http://www.autofiends.com/2009/05/we-drive-2010-lincoln-mks-ecoboost/ Apparently it's pretty powerful. 0 to 60 in 6 seconds. They also give high marks to the manual shift option, saying it is very quick to respond.
Note the MKT outperforms the Audi Q7 in every category with more power AND dramatically better mpg: 16/22 vs. the audi's 13/18. Wow. Just Wow. This is what they were promising with Ecoboost. http://www.autoblog.com/2009/05/15/first-drive-2010-lincoln-mkt-ecoboost-and-mks- -ecoboost/
Quite a few test drives of the MKS with Ecoboost came out today. Here's one from autoblog: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/05/15/first-drive-2010-lincoln-mkt-ecoboost-and-mks- -ecoboost/
Please advise if these are good lease terms: 2009 mks awd w/ultimate pkg, msrp $46,070, lease end value 22,574; initial cap cost - 43, 678 - adjusted cap with tax, license and acq fee is $44,268. APR 3.25%. monthly lease amount $646.26. mileage is 12,000 and lease for 39 months. dealer in baltimore maryland. Also, arguing with dealer that conquest rebate of $1,000 does apply to lincoln lease but they say ... Read More
Hi jmanerik. To the best of my knowledge Lincoln has not recently enhanced its slease program on the MKS. I'll make some calls to double check that is the case. According to the latest info that I have seen, Ford Credit's current base lease rate and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 Lincoln MKS 2WD with 12,000 miles per year are 1.75% and 50%, respectively. If you ... Read More
We just bought a 2009 MKS. We're confused about how the keyless entry works. We have had keyless entry for years, on Town Cars, Mountaineer, etc. Our salesman kept talking about "second generation keyless entry" and how you can no longer leave the keys in the car, when locking and leaving the vehicle, because if the key is in the car, anyone can walk up to it and get in the ... Read More
Of course the CC will look dated after awhile, but I doubt it will ever look ugly, any more than any elegant or unique older car does as time passes and its lines fall out of favor. Ugly cars are ugly from the go-shot, like the Ford 500, the last American Motors Ambassador, the Aztek, the PT Cruizer Convertible, the current Chrysler Sebring hardtop convertible, the Ssangyong Rodius. The Koreans and ... Read More
I was finally able to sit in an MKS at the Washington Auto Show, and what I was most struck by was that outside of the center stack, the materials are great. And the attention to detail on the materials was what was really impressive. The entire doors, both front and back are completely made with nice, soft touch plastic. To really get a sense of it, pay attention to the ... Read More
You're very welcome, Zack99. Yes, mileage allowance does have an impact upon vehicles' residual values. Ford Credit's 12,000 mile per year residuals are 2% higher than its 15,000 mile per year residuals. Its 10,500 mile per year resids are 3% higher than the 15k resids. Ford Credit's current base lease rate and residual value for a 39 month lease of a 2009 Lincoln MKS 2WD with 15,000 miles per year are ... Read More
Ford can't survive at BMW's U.S. volumes. Lincoln has a strategy now, but it didn't 2 years ago. Global RWD platform was a key part of that strategy that had to be put on hold. They know what they WANT to do, they just can't afford to do it all right now. Mercury was put on hold for the same reason - to focus on Ford first, Lincoln second. It's #3 ... Read More
Hi fituso09. According to the latest information that I have seen, Ford Credit's current base lease rate and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 Lincoln MKS 2WD with 10,500 miles per year are 4.5% and 53%, respectively. As you can see, Ford Credit publishes lease rates instead of money factors for the vehicles that it leases. You can convert its published lease rates into approximate money factor ... Read More
I have a 2009 MKS that I picked up in Nov. It has 2000 miles on it an the same noise started about a week ago - at first it came and went. Over the holiday the grinding noise got extrememly loud when hard breaking or applying brakes while turning - it sounds like it is really damaging the brakes/rotors. I have called roadside assistance and they will be here shortly ... Read More
Are we sure we're talking apples vs apples? 340 hp standard? AWD standard? Keyless start standard? Etc. Don't believe so. With those items, you might be comparing the MKS to the DTS Performance. Granted, not yet 340hp. But coming from a 300C with 345hp, I can tell you my new DTS Performance Northstar revs quicker and is more responsive above 60 mph than the Hemi was, even lacking the 50 hp ... Read More
Hi demarcom. I believe that Lincoln extended its lease program on the MKS through November 18th. Ford Credit's current base lease rate and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 Lincoln MKS 2WD with 15,000 miles per year are 1.5% and 51%, respectively. As you can see, Ford Credit publishes lease rates instead of money factors for the vehicles that it leases. You can convert its lease rates ... Read More
"As an all-new model, the 2009 Lincoln MKS is supposed to challenge worthy rivals from Germany and Japan for class leadership. Yet its most distinguishing characteristics are its failings — gnarly engine noises, lackluster interior quality and trawlerlike handling combined with an incongruously firm ride. We're still holding out hope for that American automotive renaissance, but if Lincoln's latest effort is any indication, we might be waiting awhile longer." This is ... Read More
Good morning sunshine26 :). Ford Credit's current base lease rate and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 Lincoln MKS 2WD with 15,000 miles per year are 1.5% and 51%, respectively. As you can see, Ford Credit publishes lease rates instead of money factors for the vehicles that it leases. You can convert its published lease rate into approximate money factor equivalents by dividing it by 2400. I ... Read More
I found this Video review by Top Speed on You Tube. What do you all think ? Top Speed Review of the 2009 Lincoln MKS
The spy shots of the 2010 Buick LaCroose and they seem to be running around with the MKS which means that Buick is trying to make the MKS one of its main competitors. If this is in fact the case i'm sure that GM is going to equip this car with the 3.6 DI 306 hp, and the fact that there where 2 mules one of which seemed to be a ... Read More
I found this image of the MKS engine bay: http://image.motortrend.com/f/auto_shows/coverage/los_angeles/9498847/112_2007lo- s_angeles_05z+2009_lincoln_mks+engine.jpg It does not appear to have a prop rod. There is not one in the field of the image, and it does not look like there is a place at the front of the bay for a prop to go when down. And, in the top center of the picture, you can see what looks like the bottom of a ... Read More
"No one cares that an ES 350 is a Camry, Infiniti M35 is a Maxima and an Acura TSX is an Accord. " Well, that could be because you're wrong. The TSX is not an Accord and the M35 most certainly is not a Maxima. M35 is RWD and has a 5 speed automatic. The Maxima is FWD and uses a CVT. Infiniti/Nissan is the shining example of how NOT to ... Read More
One is from Autoweek and they do a review on MKS and they talk about wether or not it is a smart move for Lincoln to do Fwd/Awd instead of Rwd/Awd that Cadillac is doing. I thought it was pretty interesting. The other one is from MSN. com and they just released there review of the MKS. Here's the links Autoweek review of the 2009 MKS MSN. com Review of 2009 ... Read More
Lincoln presently has no replacement for the LS. But one is in the works. Expected to be released Jan 2009, it's the new MK BO. This new Lincoln CHANGEs everything. Amazingly - it will be all things to all people. Sporty? - You bet! - it will have the new EGO-Boost engine. Economical? - Sure. At least the mpg display will tell you it is. Actual mpg will be a dont ... Read More
We know the MKS will be the first to get Ecoboost. Allen, have you heard any date mentioned for that? I cut the following from a newsletter that a dealer sent me: In a brilliant introduction strategy, the 2009 Lincoln MKS does not arrive with a V8, but a 3.7-liter V6 with 273 hp and 270 lb/ft of torque mated with a six-speed automatic in front or all-wheel drive. There is ... Read More
"...I believe too many of them are too stupid... " "NEVER underestimate the stupidity of the American public... " I don't agree with those comments, your talking about back in the 80's. The market and the world is very different. The internet and the car market are being driven by the "Millenias." That's important because that is the demographic Lincoln is aiming for with the MKS and there future products. That ... Read More
I suspect not, and not merely because of any anti-Ford bias. The MKS is definitely competitive in its segment, but it is not the home run that will put Lincoln back on most people's luxury shopping list. Plus, it will have to go up against a lot of other new 2009 models in different segments, e.g., the new Audi A4, the Nissan Maxima, the Hyundai Genesis, the Mazda6, Volkswagen CC, Acura ... Read More
The full updated Autoblog review Another Autoblog Review It seems that Autoblog is very taken by the Lincoln MKS. Also, I've noticed that allot of other magazines are as well. But the thing about the Article is read some of the comments that the people make after the review. Also, the biggest surprise so far is Motortrend. They are the most Anti-Ford magazine that I've ever seen. And they like it ... Read More
The MKS is a 2009 model and no one has any experience with them yet. If you are referring to an MKX or MKZ, there are owners on those boards which have experience. I think both of those models are very sound. Besides, you would have plenty of warranty with a 2008 model.
http://www.thecarconnection.com/fullreview/lincoln_mks_2009 This one has quotes from lots of different reviewers.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/06/first-drive-2009-lincoln-mks-w-video/ The review mostly focuses on the driving experience, and mentions that Lincoln intends this vehicle to be a STS, Lexus GS competitor. Also, it has the best photo gallery of a production MKS I've seen so far.
Another review posted online from The "Truth" About Cars: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009-lincoln-mks-review/ If you're familiar with the site, I probably don't need to tell you what they think of it. Then again, I don't trust too many reviewers outside of Dan Neil.
Jalopnik has an MKS review up: http://jalopnik.com/5012657/2009-lincoln-mks-first-drive It's not very informative, but it's a review. The only comment on the interior is about the cooled seats. The reviewer is not an automotive journalist. I think she's a political writer.
Even though I order mine already, I will have to wait for the 20 inch rims which I understand will be available in August now. Datagen, have you heard anything on the availability of the wood trim for the door panels? That and the 20" wheels have been removed from the "build & price" section of the Lincoln website. The online sites are providing first drive information on the 2009 Mazda ... Read More
I am afraid that by the time the MKS finally arrives, it will be met with about the same enthusiasm as the Zephyr when it came on the scene with the 3.0 engine. Yawn........ It seems odd that the Mazda 6, a mainstream mid-size sedan, will have more power from its 3.7 engine that the "Lincoln exclusive" 3.7 in the MKS. With higher priced fuel and looming CAFE mandates, I understand ... Read More
This is off topic, I know, but take a gander at the 2009 Mazda 6. Not only is it a knock-out but it will have the Mazda version of the 3.7 engine. This will be a very sweet sedan. If the MKS doesn't impress me and if the Mazda 6 has some of the luxury options I want, I might consider one and save $10,000. In two or three years, maybe ... Read More
Lincoln is trying to build the hype on this car, that's the reason they're sending pre-production mules around to a very narrow dealer circuit, to build interest and to tantalize the market. Ford rarely does this, but has had some history of it in the past. Most manufacturers engage in this practice occassionally, just some more than others. There are a few of these cars out there that were used on ... Read More
This just in... "Ford Motor Company is bringing rear-wheel drive development back to the U.S. from Australia. The automaker has green lighted a vehicle platform that will provide the basis for a new generation of rear-wheel-drive cars." Staffwriter Bryce Hoffman has reported today in the Detroit News. The story was confirmed by Ford Executive Derrick Kuzak, in charge of product development at Ford Motor. This balances the possibility that Alan R. ... Read More
The MKR concept styling complete with the twinforce would be a great offering. It was on a modified Mustang platform with IRS and I never fully understood why that would not be doable for a sports sedan - it was only a 5 inch wheelbase stretch. It would never work for a car as big as the Interceptor or TC, but it seems like a logical basis for an LS sized ... Read More
2009 Lincoln MKS reveal at the LA Auto Show. Lincoln MKS I've read allot of people have been complaining that the MKS is only going to have 270-277 HP at launch. The rumor that I'm hearing is that a year after it's launch they are going to put the Twin Force 415HP engine in the MKS. Also, if you listen to the presentation. They say the MKS is going to start ... Read More
I'm driving to Pasadena today for business. If I have time, I may visit the LA auto show over the weekend. Maybe I'll change my mind once I see the mks. But I doubt it. And the CTS is far from ugly. It's a much better looking car inside and out than the mks and it's cheaper and it's RWD and u can get a manual and it oozes luxury, performance ... Read More
To each his own. To my eye, the CTS has its own very recognizable look. The MKS, while attractive in a way, is an amalgam of styling cliches out there now. And now Lincoln will have yet another look among its zoo of Town Car, Navigator, MKX, MKZ...not a one looks like it is related to another. It will be years before Lincoln converts the line to this new look, if ... Read More
So, the mks is introduced. This is what we've been waiting for? A 270hp, fwd appliance on the old volvo chassis but infused with Lincoln heritage? Horbury et al went back thru Lincolns' past to find out what made it special and they come up with an underpowered V6 FWD Volvo with a Pontiac grille? Ahem ... IMHO, it's a fairly nice looking car, outside. The interior not so much. It ... Read More
http://www.lincoln.com/reachhigher/configurator/mks/default.asp Options and prices are available on Lincoln's site and I think other specs (except the engine) are probably the same as the MKS concept that was shown in Detroit in 2006.
what difference does it really make? The difference between "adequate" and "excellent." I don't think it is significant that a V6 Avalon is more powerful than a V6 Taurus. However, I think it is significant when Ford's flagship marque (with the demise of Jag) is not a step above. With tuning for low end torque, the 270 HP MKS with FWD should feel pretty decent. If it is quicker than my ... Read More
Well, I guess the difference is that Lincoln isn't going to recover by offering products nearly as good or about as good as some of the competition. After all, that approach hasn't done a thing for Buick. The Enclave is actually better than most of its competition, so it is the only hot selling Buick. But it isn't enough by itself to turn their sales slump around. I thought the extended ... Read More
The 3.5L was designed with turbocharging and direct injection in mind. TwinForce technology will also be applied to a new 2.5L I4 in the Fusion, a 5.0L V8 for the Mustang and the new 6.2L Boss for large trucks and SUVs. This isn't some one-off project. Ford says you'll get V8 power with 15% better fuel economy. http://www.thetorquereport.com/2007/07/2009_lincoln_mks_sedan_will_de.html http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=25149
Mercury has been turned into the dumbest thing on four wheels. Stupid tag lines. Stupid re-do's of Fords. Stupid all about "enhanced interior materials." Elena Ford should slink away into her burrow and stay there. If that's all they want to do with the brand, make Mercurys Ford "elite" models or some damn thing. But a whole division of NOTHING but blatant badge engineering? It NEVER was this bad at any ... Read More
The Mark LT was nothing more than a way to give the Lincoln dealers more vehicles to sell. It cost almost nothing to produce and probably made $10K profit on each one. It would have to be redone to go along with the 2009 F150 update and now that the MKZ, MKX are out and the MKS coming next summer they don't really need it. Stop trying to make a mountain ... Read More
Hello, I found these spy photos of the 2009 Lincoln MKS Testing in Death valley for heat stress test on Car connection. Spy Photo #1 Spy Photo #2 Spy Photo #3 Spy Photo #4 Spy Photo #5 Spy Photo #6 Enjoy What you think ?????????
Are u crazy the interior on the MKS looks sweet and in the the C&D spyshots they show it with the aluminum and it looks cool. http://www.caranddriver.com/carnews/13249/spied-2009-lincoln-mks.html
Introducing the MKS, which presumably will be a 2009 model, with less than 300 HP would be asking for criticism. Yuup - kinda like introducing the 500 and the MKZ with the old Taurus engine eh? From the signs we see, Mullaly will not make those mistakes. The advertising I see is aggressive finally. And his about face decisions on scrapping the Panther cars (very profitable still, and good hell, they ... Read More
The next big thing to happen to the MKZ will likely be in 2009 when Lincoln drops a Twin-Turbo V-6 into the Emmmm Kaay Zzzzz from the MKS. That's the only word I've heard about improving the MKZ. ;) Rocky
Well, of oourse there is hope...as long as Lincoln is still alive. However, it is still offering only a line-up consisting of a tarted up 1998 Navigator, a tarted up F150, a tarted up Fusion, a hoary old Town Car, and a tarted up Ford Edge. The first model that will be more modern and be Lincoln alone will be the MKS, and it won't arrive for more than another year ... Read More
Lincoln's chances are very narrow at this point. If you listened to Mr. Horbury in Detroit you can hear between the lines that this, the MKR, is the last best chance for Lincoln to appeal to the management. It is not the public vote that seems to matter, but the one that Bill & Elena make.... YET ARM has the reigns, and having driven every Ford product randomly has come up ... Read More
I note Rocky that you said "likely," which is a prudent qualification. You aren't old enough and rigid enough to buy only one or two brands, without doing any other comparisons. Let me re-phrase that. I 100% guarantee my next new vehical will be a General Motors or Ford automobile brand. ;) I support unions, and want to buy from a domestic manufactor. The only exceptions would be a Saab or ... Read More
Yes, the new quality offerings - The nearly identical Mark LT/F150 pair, The mechanically identical Town Car/Crown Vic Pair on a 30-year old chassis, The identical Edge/MK? pair or the Mexican built Mazda Zephyr which has the Ford Edge engine? The only thing hinted as coming is the schizophrenic MKS which will definitely have a V-6 or maybe a V-8 or perhaps a TT V-6 when it comes out in 2007,2008,2009 ... Read More
Chevrolet will have a real RWD Impala in 2009 and the AE guy thinks it will be a blockbuster hit. ANd who is that going to hurt? Fraid so. Hmmm. I can easily imagine the following scenario: Older gentleman pulls up to the Lincoln dealer, gets out of his Cadillac DTS, complains to the salesgal that Cadillac doesn't make his car anymore, that Cadillacs are all rap-star cars now, and he ... Read More
Just buy a used or close-out CTS, when everyone will be beating down the showroom doors to have the latest new look to the CTS. If that means a lose to the arts & science look, great -- buy the first rendition and let the others have the compromised design. It would be the keeper. Loren, I like the exterior but the interior is gawd awful in my eyes. It reminds ... Read More
Roomier than a minivan?!?!?! Yeah, that's the ticket. Is your only objective to bash everything I say. I always kid around with Loren, and he knows that. You should stick to telling everyone how wonderful the MKS is that you have on order. I happen to like the MKS alot, if you don't then fine. I might order one when they become available. It all depends on what happens in my ... Read More
If you had read most of my posts you would of seen I like these cars and anyone of them could end up in my garage. heyjewel I'm subject to change and day or any week. But currently my short-list which has stayed pretty consistent over the last few months includes: Top-11 #1 desired car on my short-list is the 2008-2009 Cadillac CTS or CTS-V. #2 2008-09' or as you say ... Read More
Do yourself a favor - if you want to go that fast go buy a used mustang GT and modify it. And run it at the track. Thanks for the advice, but I prefer 4 doors. My "track" is the farm and market roads here in the Panhandle of Texas. ;) Then buy a fusion for a daily driver. They are very ugly and unsafe, so no thanks. ;) It will ... Read More
"I guess you and I have interpreted the article different. Rocky " Here's the only quote that refers to the MKS: "(Horbury) said the brand's transformation will be complete when its new flagship, the MKS, goes into production in 2009." I won't even ask how you interpreted that to mean 2008. Also, it's 'differentLY' when used as an adverb. Also, you'll no doubt be happy to know that I will no ... Read More
I think the confusion is the MKS will be built in 2008, as a 2009 model. I agree with that and that's what I've been agreeing with this whole time. ;) I'm rockylee, and I approve of my post. :P
Since you sound so sure about something about which you have no facts whatsoever, can you explain the quote from your post 843 that said: "Horbury said future Lincolns will feature even more distinctive styling. He said the brand's transformation will be complete when its new flagship, the MKS, goes into production in 2009." Bud, I really think you need to switch to decaffinated.
Time for the Grinch to toss his 2 cents in: 4 *NEW* models due by the end of THIS year to take on Cadillac, BMW and LEXUS??? - Well first, I thought Lincoln was supposed to compete with Buick? Have they changed direction AGAIN?? - Second, 4 NEW models?? Hoo Ha, what BS. They're talking about: the MKZ - is that NEW??? A bigger thirstier engine does not a NEW car ... Read More
You should tell Horbury then because he said the MKS "goes into production" in 2009, which makes it a 2010 model or perhaps 2009 1/2. I don't think you can tell whether he meant calendar year 2009 or model year 2009. We'll just have to wait and see, but the plant seems to be gearing up for a 2008 product launch.
"The MKS was originally scheduled for fall 2007 as a 2008 model but was moved back to spring 2008 as a 2009 model (not 2009 as a 2010 model). It's late enough as is - no need to make it even later." You should tell Horbury then because he said the MKS "goes into production" in 2009, which makes it a 2010 model or perhaps 2009 1/2.
The MKS was originally scheduled for fall 2007 as a 2008 model but was moved back to spring 2008 as a 2009 model (not 2009 as a 2010 model). It's late enough as is - no need to make it even later.
And BTW, Rock, looks like u got a little more time to decide on the MKS as your next car: "Horbury said ... the brand's transformation will be complete when its new flagship, the MKS, goes into production in 2009." Going into production in 2009 means it's a 2010 model. And one thing I learned from my old man is "don't buy the first model year of a new car." So ... Read More
I don't know about higher, but it will reach deeper into your pockets. What is your budget for a new car, Rocky? Rocky's budget could be in the $50-60K MSRP range on a new car. It will boil down to negotiation. My choices for 2007-2009 include the Lincoln MKS, CTS-V, GMC Sierra Denaili, Escalade SUV & EXT hybrid, Saab 9-5, Saab 9-3, Volvo S80, and possible Buick Velite as my #1 ... Read More
As you know, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I cannot see sexy beast in the MKS. Actually, few sedans from anywhere in the world look "sexy" to me. I think the Mercedes CKS550 has real panache and stands out in a crowd. The Audi A8, the new Bentley sedan, the proposed Jaguar S-Type and XJ sedans for 2009 and 2010, the current Maserati sedan, and the 2007 Volvo ... Read More
Well, of course the products today are much better, just as the products of the 60s were better than what came before them. I always like the current cars best as a result. Nonetheless, I can recognize the standouts in any given era. Often they were also polarizing designs. The 60's Continentals are seen by most as understated but elegant, in both an eyecatching and tasteful way. Of course not everyone ... Read More
Oh, come on. GM made a business decision to kill the Camaro. Thank its lucky stars (Ford does have them now and then), Ford soldiered on with the old Mustang. The basic platform had not been changed since 1979. Belatedly (in 1994) it was given a re-skin, after 14 full model years making do with only grill changes and so on. Then it was given a less thorough re-do/update in 1999, ... Read More
Yeah, Bill Ford-Gore. Good point. I don't see where they're making any attempt to match Cadillac. Caddy has gone RWD for their performance sedans. Lincoln has gone FWD with AWD option. Caddy actually HAS performance sedans. Several of them. Plus a beautiful 2 seat convertible. Lincoln has the Town Car and the Zephyr. The Z won't even be a performance sedan with the 3.5 never mind the 3.0 And don't forget ... Read More
Guys, it is nice you are all so positive and hopeful about Ford. I do hope you are right. Ford has screwed up with sedans, and the Fusion triplets alone can't rectify that. Anyone can see the 500/Montego does not sell anywhere near what they should. It is pathetic that Chevy can take an old platform like the Impala and literally trounce the 500. Ford plans to fix the dull front ... Read More
I hope you are right on the MKS, akirby. Two years is a long time to wait for something that is only competitive now. It doesn't look good for Mercury, does it? I know Ford has made money by simply putting make-up on Fords and calling them Mercurys. However, this is not the only way Mercury has made money in its history. The iconic '49-'51 Mercs shared nothing with the Fords. ... Read More
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