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2009 Kia Optima Consumer Discussions
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2011-12 Optima
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Re: Optima purchase [dski]
Hi...I'm in the market to replace our 2009 Camry and considering both Sonata and Optima. I have to admit, at first glance, I much prefer the look of the Optima. Question Though...In researching, I came across a page on the Car & Driver website that discussed a "discrepancy" between the performance (0-60 times) of the Sonata 2.0T vs the Optima 2.0T...they tested the Optima and got around 7.5 seconds. They went ... Read More
2009 Kia Optima
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Sun Visors
I own a 2009 Kia Optima SX, and the sun visors drive me up the wall! They are cheap vinyl covered things with sharp edges and no pull out extensions. Does anyone know if there is a different visor that will fit my car? I would love something that has an extension, and possibly cloth? I thought maybe something from a Sonata would fit... Thanks.
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Re: 2009 2.4 Optima mileage [papabearkrb]
Ohhh, don't get me started. I bought my 2009 Kia Optima LX brand new. The dealer pressured me into buying this POS car. I've spoken to lawyers about lemon law rights, and even considered having my finance company repo the POS just to get rid of it. The day I bought it, I noticed how bad it drove. I've kept track of my mileage since day 1 and I average city/hwy ... Read More
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2009 2.4 Optima mileage
I recently got a 2009 Optima, 2.4L Auto. I used my CarMD on it and got a stored code of P0171 which does NOT exist in this engine according to Leith Kia. So much for CarMD. The problem is that I am getting around 20mpg on combined city/highway driving. Most of the mileage is on the Interstate for about 70 miles round trip 2X a week, max speed of 75. Kia ... Read More
Kia Optima Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Price Paid
We just bought a 2009 Optima LX in Cash for Clunkers,,no special features I think its the most basic model - we paid $11,500. after the KIA rebate, the competitor rebate for our VM passat (both these rebates totalled $3500) , and the $3,500 we got for the Cash for Clunkers. I always think to myself I could have gotten a "better deal",,if I had held on a little longer. The ... Read More
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Re: "Epic" Optima [stickguy]
I was just over at my local Kia Dealership getting a recall taken care of on my 2011 Sorento. They had a loaded Optima EX on the showroom floor. Had everything: Heated and Cooled front seats, Heated rear seats, Heated Steering Wheel, Nav, Panaromic roof, Etc. Was Pearl white with the beige interior. Fantastic car for a Msrp of $27,500 I think it was. I would have loved to taken a ... Read More
2011-12 Optima
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Re: Heated Steering Wheel Leather? [jcspohr]
I was just over at my local Kia Dealership getting a recall taken care of on my 2011 Sorento. They had a loaded Optima EX on the showroom floor. Had everything: Heated and Cooled front seats, Heated rear seats, Heated Steering Wheel, Nav, Panaromic roof, Etc. Was Pearl white with the beige interior. Fantastic car for a Msrp of $27,500 I think it was. I would have loved to taken a ... Read More
2009 Kia Optima
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Re: 2009-2010 Optima LX Driving Seat Position [jaxs1]
If the lights work anything like Hyundais with auto-off lights, the parking lights don't go off until you remove the key AND open the door. I found the manual driver's seat on the Optima OK, but I know what you are saying about the tipping forward. Many cars with the single-lever height adjuster do that. That's why I always liked the cars (including some Kias and Hyundais) with dual manual height ... Read More
2011-12 Optima
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Out next year?!?!?!
I don't know what to believe anymore... Please tell me that Autoweek got the dates wrong for the Optima. If you read the article, it says that the Optima is out "next year", and then the Hybrid out "1st quarter of 2011". Aren't they really the same timeframe? This is contrary to what Kia has "officially" put on their website. Also the Sportage 2.0T date could be wrong as well...this article ... Read More
Kia Optima Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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pat82
We're looking betwen a KIA optima and a Hyundia Sonata. How much should a 2009 KIA optima be? Edmunds post $17,500 but most dealers post about $21,500 - what' that 4k difference? Any KIA rebates that anyone knows about coming soon - we're looking topurchase by last of JLy 1st wk or two of August
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Re: 2010 Optima [wb9696]
One of the Kia dealerships in my area still has a bunch of brand new 2009 Optimas! How much did your 2010 LX w/Convenience package go for, if I may ask? How do you like your car thus far?
2009 Kia Optima
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2nd Optima for me
Lost my 2004 EX Now have a new Kia 2009 LX anything I should know? :) :)
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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dash5...
this news about the new 2011 Kia K5 (Optima's name in SK) outselling Sonata is groundbreaking and really quite refreshing. It is more success coming from new Design Chief Peter Schreyer of Kia (formerly the Design Chief of Audi Motors). You'll see Audi cues on new Kia's, but mostly on the new Kia SUV's. The new 2011 Kia Optima will face very stiff competition, but backy is right, all the hullabulloo ... Read More
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Re: Kia Optima [m6user]
I find the Sonata to be more... i'm going to use the word feminine... curvy, modern. I've liked them in pictures and seeing them on the road. They definitely catch my eye. The Optima (in images) looks a bit more masculine to me. Not quite hard edges but less swoopy. More aggressive. More like an old mustang as opposed to a corvette. (maybe that's a bad analogy) Specifically from a profile ... Read More
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Test Drove two Sonata SE models today...
...came away absolutely impressed. The cars were Pacific Blue with Gray cloth/leather interior with the hard to find Sunroof/Navigation Pkg and Indigo Blue/Gray without the nav/sunroof pkg. Exterior: Beautiful, from the color to the 18 inch wheels the Sonata in SE trim in Pacific Blue Pearl looks excellent. I like how the color changes depending on the lighting. We've gotten rain off and on all day in my area (Upstate, SC) ... Read More
Kia Optima 2006.5-2008
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Thanks
Thanks, Backy & Mickeyrom for the helpful advice. The local Kia dealer usually has a lot of '08/'09/'10 Optimas. They buy at auctions and from other dealers to keep their huge dealership stocked with late model Kia's and other makes. It's hard to know where the car's been purchased as they don't offer Carfax. They use another service called, I think 'CarReports'. I do know that some with high miles were ... Read More
2011-12 Optima
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Re: Re not twins [gregg_vw]
Actually, one of the problems was I could NOT read your entire message at the time I replied because of the large photo that was posted above it. But I am surprised that Hyundai/Kia developed two different 5-speed ATs for use in the 2009-10 Optima and Sonata I4s, considering they used the same engine. 2005 was the last twin year for the Optima/Sonata I think, with the 2006 Optima using the ... Read More
Kia Optima 2006.5-2008
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Re: 2007 Owner Reviews-- valid or driveby shooting? [csandste]
All the really negative comments are puzzling. Seems to be many cars with multiple transmission failures, head gasket failures, starter failures, etc. But some comments are really strange. Like the one about the owner who had lots of problems starting at 42k miles, so he sold it, and "a month later" the new owner said he'd had lots of "insanely expensive problems" with the car. Which means either that new owner ... Read More
Kia Optima 2006 and earlier
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Problem after pumping gas or turning on the AC
My 2004 Kia Optima LX V6 has had the recent problem of shutting off after I pump gas and most recently when I turned on the air conditioner. Problem #1 Okay, I fill up then I start the car and nothing happens, it doesn't turn on. I do it again only this time I'm pushing the gas. VEROOOOM it's on! Then, foot off the gas pedal and the car shakes off. ... Read More
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Re: Nissan Altima or Chevy Malibu [m6user]
Spy photos are out.. looks a little like the Sonata in terms of roofline. http://blogs.insideline.com/straightline/2009/08/spy-photos-2011-kia-optima-gets- -eye-catching-new-design.html
Sonata vs Optima
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Just brought Sonata over Optima
Hello, I was all over buying a 2009 Kia Optima the last 3 weeks.I had an "out the door price"on 09 optima at $15,500 this included auto trans--conv.package w/power driver seat and alloy wheels.This price brought down to $15,500 was trade of 95 maxima I had for 15 yrs since new with 152,500 miles on gave $1500 to the deal off,$3000 rebate on 09 model.I didn't like the Optima dash.It has ... Read More
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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2011 Kia Optima
You guys may have already seen these: http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightline/2009/08/spy-photos-2011-kia-optima-gets-ey- e-catching-new-design.html#more
2009 Kia Optima
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Re: 2009 Kia optima Lx 2.4 175Hp [mcmax]
Have you tried the new KIA compact,I forget it's name.It probably averages 28 or better.Unfortunately since it's a new model,they probably aren't being discounted much.
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Re: 2009 Kia optima Lx 2.4 175Hp [mickeyrom]
Caravan 3.3 engine - just qualifies with 18 mpg average. I'll need 28 mpg to get the full $4500, not the case with the Optima.
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Re: 2009 Kia optima Lx 2.4 175Hp [mcmax]
What are you trading in that you're getting only $3500?
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Re: 2009 Kia optima Lx 2.4 175Hp [470]
HI. I have driven the LX listed at $19,720. The salesman says he can only give me $7000 off ($2500 Kia cash, $1000 comp bonus for owning a Camry and $3500 cash for clunkers). I know they can do better - your deal proves it. Would you mind breaking down the price for me? Not sure what your sales tax is - mine is 7%. For that extra 1K+, did you ... Read More
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2009 Kia optima Lx 2.4 175Hp
I just Bought the 2009 a few days ago. There are a few changs. Stryling is right there now with any other midsize car. Also they have made the Traction control standard (ESC) ABS Standard and Sirus sadalite radio and sport shift standerd on all optima's in any trim package. I owned a 2002 and liked it untill I drove it to 80,000 on the original timing belt and took out ... Read More
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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I flew to Seattle on Thursday...
and rented a 2009 Toyota Camry. In a nutshell the car is easy and safe and secure to drive. However, I found myself not liking the "floaty" suspension/handling package. The car is quiet at freeway speeds, has easy to steer steering, just it would wander off the road and hit those zip-strips near the road's fogline all of the time. It did have a great stereo, and I had one of ... Read More
Kia Optima 2006.5-2008
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Re: 2008 KIA Optima [mickeyrom]
I can have a "problem" in the fact I would probably own an Optima now would it not be for the hard-to-find ABS and ESC before 2009 MY. And when I was looking high and low for an Optima, new or used, with ABS/ESC I found ONE (EX) I4 model within a 500 mile radius of me (actually it was about 400 miles away, in Schaumburg) in a six-month period. I ... Read More
Kia Optima Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: 2009 Kia Optima EX w/no packages [csandste]
No, I wouldn't say it's only HyunKia's dealers' practice... The day before I bought the Optima I was trying to get a deal on the Insight EX no navi at the local Honda store. The talk was EXCLUSIVELY about an EX, I repeatedly made a point I don't want an LX. I picked the certain car from the lot that I wanted. We seemingly did finalize the figures for the deal ... Read More
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Re: 2009 Kia Optima EX w/no packages [mohatu]
Further proof that both Hyundai and Kia need to focus on dealer quality. I bought an Optima because in my case (at least) Kia has the better, less pushy, dealership. In your case, however, the dealer was obviously trying to pull a fast one.
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Re: 2009 Kia Optima EX w/no packages [mohatu]
No, you didn't miss something.. obviously the dealer HOPED you'd miss something. ;)
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2009 Kia Optima EX w/no packages
Got it last week for $17650. It was funny when the dealer tried to sneak in the destination fee of $675 into the final bill of sale ON TOP of the sale price. This fee was withdrawn after I threatened to leave. Do I miss something here? I was pretty sure that the final dealer's final sticker/sale price does include destination, and only TTL is extra.
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Re: Best mid sized sedans -1.T.Camry 2.H.Sonata 3.N.Altima 4.F.Fusion [deltheking]
I said the Camry is better than the Accord not just based on CR reports but on lots of other things-- comfort,ride,noise,smooth including reliability. Funny thing is CR does not share your view on the ranking of the Camry with regard to other factors. In their most recent ranking (Jan 2009), Camry is in a 6th place tie with Sonata amongst sedans priced at $20-25,000, here is their order: 1 Nissan ... Read More
2009 Kia Optima
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Re: reliabilty [Vipergg]
Kias have improved a lot in reliability over the past few years. One data point on the Optima is that Consumer Reports has the 2009 Optima as "Much better than average" (its top mark) in predicted reliability, based on the 2006.5-8 Optimas. It rates the 2006.5 as "above average" and 2007 as "much better than average". It didn't report on the 2008 model in its April auto issue because of insufficient ... Read More
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Chicago Auto Show
A little tired of the two person dialog on why Ford does or doesn't do this or that so I'll make a few comments on what I noticed at the show today. 1. Chevy...new Cruze looks like a winner but it is three to five years too late. Volt could also be a winner but sell it already. Camaro's interior is pathetic. Hard plastic everywhere, toylike looking gauges....very cheap overall on ... Read More
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Re: Chicago Auto Show [m6user]
Well, comparing the Sonata's interior to that of the Optima, I could see how the Optima would pale in comparison, as the Sonata's dash in particular looks a lot more modern than the Optima's, IMO. But overall the Optima's interior seemed well-finished to me, if a bit dated in the dash design. For example, I like the cloth on the Optima much better than that in the Sonata--unless Kia changed the ... Read More
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Re: Chicago Auto Show [backy]
At last year's show I wanted to sit in the Optima but there was an older couple of that took up residence in it and after waiting several minutes I just could look. This year I sat in it and expected something similar to the Sonata but it just was very plain and a lot of hard plastic. The Kia and Sonata exhibits were in two complete separate showrooms so it ... Read More
Kia Optima Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Kia best prices found this on Website
from Slickdeals.net http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=1126567 2008 NEW Kia Optima HUGE incentives $12676 OTD YMMV :D I just bought a brand new 4D car with AT (162 HP, 164 ft-lbs torque, 31 mpg Hwy), AC, power windows, power locks, CD player, cruise, heated mirrors & steering wheel controls for stereo & cruise - out the door for under $13000. Price before tax, doc fees, etc was under $11,000. The sticker on this car was ... Read More
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Re: 2008 Optima LX 4 Dr AT PW PL AC CD CC under $12700 OTD [csandste]
You bought a Kia, and you are worried about resale? The sad fact is, Kias in general depreciate pretty rapidly, and unless an Optima has the safety gear that has become commonplace in the mid-sized class now--and standard on the 2009 Optima--namely ABS, traction control, and ESC, it will be hard for them to hold value. Fortunately, there have been great deals on the 06.5+ Optima almost since it arrived, although ... Read More
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Re: 2010 Fusion 2.5L Fuel Economy........ [thegraduate]
Here: http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=29670 And here are the tops of the class: Tops of the class: 2010 Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan 6-spd auto - 23/34 2009 Chevy Malibu/Pontiac G6/Saturn Aura 6-spd auto - 22/33 2009 Nissan Altima 6-spd manual - 23/32 2009 Hyundai Sonata/Kia Optima 5-spd auto - 22/32 2009 Kia Optima 5-spd manual - 22/32 2009 Nissan Altima CVT - 23/31 Ironic no Toyota/Honda on that list (until you go further down).
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2009 Optima gets with the (ES)program
Good news, the 2009 Optima gets ABS, ESC, and traction control standard across the board, joining the Accord, Mazda6, Passat, and Sonata (and Legacy?) as "true" mid-sizers with ESC on every trim. That takes care of the one glaring deficiency of the Optima, and the new-for-2009 175 hp I4 (shared with the Sonata) doesn't hurt either. Still has a pretty wimpy V6 for the class though (albeit with a little more ... Read More
2009 Kia Optima
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Re: 09 Optima Web Site Now Up [csandste]
I went to the site and noticed one really BIG thing on the Build and Price section: it appears ESC is now standard on every trim level, including the base LX 5MT!!! This is a very pleasant surprise, since it was never mentioned in any of Kia's announcements about the 2009 Optima. I would think they would have made a bigger deal out of it, since not that many mid-sized sedans ... Read More
Kia Optima Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: Experience with Schaumburg Kia? [godwheel]
Go to the 2009 Optima threads to see the new car. I agree with Backy in preferring the looks of the old car, although that is strictly from pictures. New car has Fordish front clip with rear changed to better match the new Spectra replacement.
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [m6user]
Just look at the Carmax site, they are selling a 2007 Mazda6 I Sport, (not VE) with 20k for $17.7 stock #: 5366031 Rebates might effect resale value, but those rebates might be gone next year. i.e. don't think the 2009 will have a rebate. Not every one is hanging out at these forums looking at prices paid Even Mickeyrom admitted he might have paid too much for his Optima.
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [m6user]
Hertz is like carmax, their web site says: With our low fixed prices you have the advantage. You get all the value and savings without the aggravation of pushy salesmen and high-price negotiations. http://www.hertzcarsales.com/advantages/advantage.jsp I see $14-15K on their site, only lists cars in CA and HI, but still... They probably figure people will be comparing them to the 2009 model, so selling them for probably about what they paid might ... Read More
Kia Optima Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: Experience with Schaumburg Kia? [godwheel]
Which rebates do you qualify for? If it's just the $2500 general rebate, the deal is about at invoice--good but not great for a car like the Optima, especially with the refreshed 2009 models on the way. If you qualify for additional rebates, then I don't think it's a very good deal.
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [mickeyrom]
Looking at it from an outsider's viewpoint, MT recently reviewed 10 cars in this class and ranked the Optima 6th overall. A decent showing for a car that is (incredibly) one of the oldest designs in the class now. It was topped by the Passat (which costs a LOT more and has a lot more power), the 2009 Sonata SE (which benefits from mid-gen improvements, many of which the Optima receives ... Read More
2009 Kia Optima
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Motor Trend Visual Comparison
http://www.motortrend.com/photo_gallery/112_0803_2009_kia_optima_comparison_phot- o_gallery/index.html Hate to dis a car I haven't seen in person but I don't think I like the styling at all: 1. Front clip Fordish slant-- like the 065-08 better 2. Sides-- No real changes 3. Back clip-- two generations ago Accord--- nah! 4. Interior garish-- like the present appearance group semi-electroluminescent much better. This one belongs on a Pontiac. All in all, at least in pictures, it's a big ... Read More
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Re: A week with a Kia Optima [jeffyscott]
Interesting, your experience with the Optima is a 180 from my test drive of an LX I4 with the 5AT. I am 5'10" also (32" inseam) and I had plenty of legroom with the seat height (manual) about 1/2 way. The front seat wasn't even close to being at the back of its rearward travel. But I don't think I had the steering column pulled out all the way. I found ... Read More
Kia Optima 2006.5-2008
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Note to Host
Could we please change the title of this discussion? Since the 2006.5-2008 Optimas are the same, how about "Kia Optima 2006.5-2008"? There's already a discussion for the refreshed 2009 Optima, and one for the pre-2006.5 Optima, so that would give us continuous coverage for all years of the Optima. Right now there's a little gap--no general discussion for the 2006.5 or 2008 Optimas. Thanks!
Kia Optima Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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What's the going rate on Optimas?
Now that Honda has pretty much eliminated the 2009 Fit from my fall car shopping list (by making VSC available only on the most loaded Sport + Nav trim, which I figure with AT will go for somewhere close to $19k), I am refocusing on other cars. The Optima has been on my list for some time, but with current incentives at $3500 and the refreshed 2009 Optima coming in the ... Read More
Kia Optima 2006.5-2008
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Re: Looks like the Optima got kicked off the Sedans 2.0 Board [mickeyrom]
Yes, especially for 2009, with the I4 being bumped to 175 hp, in a lighter car, and with better fuel economy. I just wonder how many V6s Kia will sell when the 2009s roll out.
2009 Kia Optima
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Not wild about the changes I've seen...
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/kia/2009-kia-optima-ar54307/picture239225-0.html I liked the large clear taillights and the flat instrumentation. Stability package is still optional. The front looks like the late, unlamented Ford Five Hundred, the tail like the last-gen Accord.
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Re: 2009 Kia Optima [backy]
yep...especially since I think Sonatas do have them as standard.
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Re: 2009 Kia Optima [mickeyrom]
Plus ESC (and therefore ABS) is mandated by 2011 anyway, so why not get ahead of the curve along with Sonata, Accord etc. and make ESC standard for the 2009 refresh? If it can be standard on cars like the Sportage, why not the 2009 Optima?
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Re: 2009 Kia Optima [backy]
I think ESC/ABS should be standard. If they had the volume,they could just raise the price by a couple of hundred and not lose anything of their profit.Safety should be the #1 concern.
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2009 Kia Optima
Word is out that the Optima will get a significant make-over for 2009, including powertrain upgrades and styling tweaks. Let's talk about it and share what you know about it! I think the 2006.5-2008 Optima is a solid offering in the mid-sized class, with just the right blend of room, ride comfort, handling, size, and tasteful styling inside and out. And the price is right. Only two things I don't like: ... Read More
Kia Optima 2006.5-2008
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2009 Optima facelift
For 2009 model year, Optima will receive a major design update. Facelift will also include an engines upgrade which will then offer more hp and lower fuel consumption. While we are searching for additional informations, you can check for some spy shots: http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/03/14/2009-kia-optima-facelift/
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Re: I really enjoy this thread. [backy]
Did I say family cars have to be dull? Did I say handling wasn't important? I was talking about how where I drive my cars. They are driven mostly on city and suburban streets and freeways in the Midwest, with a very occasional trip of a few hundred miles. I don't want a car that wallows. I have had 4 Sonata rental cars and one Kia Optima rental. I felt the ... Read More
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Re: Toyota [Sporin]
Question is, how long can Toyota grow and prosper on reputation alone? How long before the masses notice the change? Try "now." A cousin of mine is going to buy a mid-sized sedan before the end of the year. He didn't even consider the Camry seriously based on what he's heard about quality and how it drives. He's narrowed it down to the Accord LX and Sonata GLS or SE (I4 ... Read More
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Re: Disappointment [urnews]
Today, it is safe to say, the Camcords are the benchmarks in the mid-size market but the competition is keen and getting more so. I don't know that it is safe to say that anymore, at least in terms of professional opinion. Three examples: 1) In C/D's last comparo of mid-sized sedans, three cars outscored the new Camry: the prior-gen Accord, the new Altima, and the Optima. That the new Camry ... Read More
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Re: Residuals can be deceiving [robertsmx]
I think there is a resemblance between the front of the 1998 Accord and the current Sonata. I also think that resemblance is coincidental. The grille and headlamps on the 1998 Accord are very generic, and there's similar shapes on many other cars. We already know what car the next Sonata (2009 MY refresh) has in its sights: the Hyundai Genesis. If you believe that Hyundai intentionally copied the 1998 Accord ... Read More
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