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2008 Kia Optima Consumer Discussions
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Kia Optima Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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arizona willie...
exactly. I've only driven it maybe 60 miles so far but it seems to be really really nice. I've always bought domestic cars and would never consider foreign ... but since most of the so-called domestics are made in Mexico or Canada and so many parts are made in Japan or someplace it's hard to consider them domestic anymore. So although I liked the Lincoln MKZ and was thinking about the ... Read More
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Accord vs Camry vs Altima....NOT!
As a former Camry and present Accord owner (only used as an infrequently driven 2nd car) I totally agree with Plekto. The Japanese designers played it safe and designed white bread sedans since 2002. So, in 2004, after realizing that a fully loaded Toyota Camry would require a kidney donation, I switched out and purchased a new 2004 Optima EX V6. Standard features included leather, sunroof, etc for $17,500, $10k less ... Read More
Kia Optima 2006.5-2008
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Re: Horrible 2008 Optima [gregtzap]
I just traded an 06 hyundai gl sport on an amazingly minty 07 ex 4 cyl. I traded for very little dollars & got leather/espt/tc/. The hyundai had a little smoother ride but the kia has a sportier suspension that handles a lot better. Gas mileage in both cars is/was mediocre at 33 mpg Canadian(28 mpg us gallon) at 70 mph. This is 100% hiway driving & both cars are identical ... Read More
2011-12 Optima
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Re: New Optima sub-site from Kia [m6user]
Hmmm. You want rattles, squeeks and minor breaks? That sounds like my Generation 7 Honda Accord. The car's drivetrain shows all the benefits of those years and years of Honda's engineering equity. The rest of the car shows the effects of Honda's continual and aggressive decontenting. Toyota did the same sort of decontenting with the current Camry. I also own a 2007 Hyundai Santa Fe - an early production model of ... Read More
Kia Optima 2006.5-2008
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Re: Horrible 2008 Optima [jackier1]
I purchased a used 2008 Kia Optima with only 14,000 miles on it from a non-Kia dealer's used car lot in California about 14 months ago that is having exactly the same stalling problem. How was your problem resolved? The dealer we are taking it to for repairs says they can find nothing wrong with it. It is really dangerous and we will not let our daughter drive it anymore until ... Read More
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Accord vs Sonata
Those pics of the Optima look gorgeous, apart from the wheels. I've been car shopping the last few weeks to replace my 2008 Honda Accord EX-L that's going to be coming off lease soon (I should mention that this is the third Honda in a row that I have leased). I went to my local Honda dealer this past weekend to take a look at the 2011 Accords. I managed to ... Read More
2011-12 Optima
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Re: Optima export production [conwelpic]
6 more months? Bleh. I guess I can wait that long, we'll see. I pass by a beautiful black 2008 Infiniti G35x every day going to work, it's calling to me.... can I hold out? Will I hold out?!?! *gasp* Hurry Kia, hurry! :P
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Re: 2011 Kia Optima prices [plekto]
Well the current plan, is to wait on at least the Optima/Sonata turbo models to be available. I'll test drive those, price out what it will cost me OTD and then see where I am. If I can get out of the lot for 27-28k+TTL that's gonna be tough to beat. I'd have to go used at that point. I pass by a black G35x sedan every day on my commute. ... Read More
Kia Optima 2006.5-2008
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Re: 2008 KIA Optima [backy]
Thanks Backy. I'm finding out that warranty issues are an often overlooked technicality by a lot of used car buyers, not just Kia buyers, and if one is not careful, lack of due diligence will come back to bite one in the rear with an expensive and uncovered repair.
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Re: 2008 KIA Optima [mikemartin]
There's not that many options here: 1) You are buying the car from a Kia dealer. You get them to state, in writing, that the car is covered by the remainder of the 5/60k factory warranty. After that, it's up to you to maintain the car according to the manufacturer's recommended service schedule. 2) The owner had the car serviced at a Kia or other service center that maintains computer records. ... Read More
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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I flew to Seattle on Thursday...
and rented a 2009 Toyota Camry. In a nutshell the car is easy and safe and secure to drive. However, I found myself not liking the "floaty" suspension/handling package. The car is quiet at freeway speeds, has easy to steer steering, just it would wander off the road and hit those zip-strips near the road's fogline all of the time. It did have a great stereo, and I had one of ... Read More
Kia Optima 2006.5-2008
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Re: 2008 KIA Optima [mickeyrom]
mickey, thanks for the reply. I don't know that the prior owner failed to maintain the car per Kia's recommended service schedule. What I'm saying is that I'd like to know that they did, and have the records to prove it, in case there's a problem later, and Kia brings the issue up.
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Re: 2008 KIA Optima [mikemartin]
I think that is a question better answered by a dealer.I assume that you don't have the receipts. Mike,no offense,but why would you buy a car that hasn't been properly maintained. As far as I know,the only maintenance that would affect the warranty would be the oil changes and the tranny fluid changes.That is only if those two units were to fail.Surely not rotating the tires(just an example) would affect your ... Read More
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Re: 2008 KIA Optima [backy]
Guys, I need a fast answer, if possible. What warranty protection do I get on a used 2006.5 (new body style) Optima LX? I know that the 10 year/100k mile powertrain warranty doesn't transfer, but what about the 5 year/60k bumper to bumper warranty (which includes the powertrain)? And if that does transfer, how do I prove the previous owner followed Kia's service schedule? I am under the impression that if ... Read More
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Re: 2008 KIA Optima [mickeyrom]
The poster asked if there were "any problems" they should know about. They didn't specify what kind of problem. I think that not having ABS readily available on a modern car is a problem. A big one. If you don't, fine. Can we move on?
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Re: 2008 KIA Optima [backy]
Now come on Backy.Having difficulty finding a car with the options you want does not constitute a problem with the car. I will admit that finding a used EX is not easy.Maybe that is because that once somebody buys one they keep it.That is how I am with my Optima.So far it's been a joy.
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Re: 2008 KIA Optima [mickeyrom]
I can have a "problem" in the fact I would probably own an Optima now would it not be for the hard-to-find ABS and ESC before 2009 MY. And when I was looking high and low for an Optima, new or used, with ABS/ESC I found ONE (EX) I4 model within a 500 mile radius of me (actually it was about 400 miles away, in Schaumburg) in a six-month period. I ... Read More
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Re: 2008 KIA Optima [backy]
Backy ole chum,no offense,but how can you have a problem with something that you don't have?(scratching head)Many EX models with I4 engines have those features,don't you agree? Mine certainly does.
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Re: 2008 KIA Optima [rfelt]
I have a 2006.5 Optima EX and the only difference is that mine has a tape deck in additional to the 6 disk CD changer.I have K on it and I still love it.No problems.You might get a better deal on a 2007,and it is essentially the same car.I agree with the other poster that the 2.4 engine is by far the better option. I would definitely recommend this car to ... Read More
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Re: 2008 KIA Optima [rfelt]
The only significant problem I have with the 2008 Optima is that important safety features--ABS and ESC--are optional and almost impossible to find, especially on the I4 cars. And I think the I4 is a much better buy than the weak V6, which has higher maintenance costs (timing belt vs. chain, harder to replace spark plugs etc.) than the I4. If the lack of ABS and ESC doesn't bother you, you ... Read More
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2008 KIA Optima
I am thinking of buying a 2008 model KIA optima, but not sure. Is it a good car? Are the any problems I should know about? Is the quality good?
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Re: Horrible 2008 Optima [jackier1]
I have a 2006.5 Optima with the I4 engine.I think that mechanically it is pretty much the same car as yours,assuming you have the 4cyl engine.I have had exactly 0 driveability issues to date and I have around 25,000 miles on my KIA. You might consider the lemon law.I am no expert,but I would just not accept that kind of issues as they create a safety problem.
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Horrible 2008 Optima
I purchased a 2008 with 13 miles 8 months ago and have had to take it back 5 times. Started with check engine light with less than 1000 miles, escalated to the car stalling when driving, usually after filling up the gas tank with no warning at all. First visits to the dealer-they sent me home after hooking it up to the computer system telling me nothing was wrong or they ... Read More
2009 Kia Optima
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Re: reliabilty [Vipergg]
Kias have improved a lot in reliability over the past few years. One data point on the Optima is that Consumer Reports has the 2009 Optima as "Much better than average" (its top mark) in predicted reliability, based on the 2006.5-8 Optimas. It rates the 2006.5 as "above average" and 2007 as "much better than average". It didn't report on the 2008 model in its April auto issue because of insufficient ... Read More
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Chicago Auto Show
A little tired of the two person dialog on why Ford does or doesn't do this or that so I'll make a few comments on what I noticed at the show today. 1. Chevy...new Cruze looks like a winner but it is three to five years too late. Volt could also be a winner but sell it already. Camaro's interior is pathetic. Hard plastic everywhere, toylike looking gauges....very cheap overall on ... Read More
Kia Optima Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Kia best prices found this on Website
from Slickdeals.net http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=1126567 2008 NEW Kia Optima HUGE incentives $12676 OTD YMMV :D I just bought a brand new 4D car with AT (162 HP, 164 ft-lbs torque, 31 mpg Hwy), AC, power windows, power locks, CD player, cruise, heated mirrors & steering wheel controls for stereo & cruise - out the door for under $13000. Price before tax, doc fees, etc was under $11,000. The sticker on this car was ... Read More
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Re: 2008 Optima LX 4 Dr AT PW PL AC CD CC under $12700 OTD [csandste]
You bought a Kia, and you are worried about resale? The sad fact is, Kias in general depreciate pretty rapidly, and unless an Optima has the safety gear that has become commonplace in the mid-sized class now--and standard on the 2009 Optima--namely ABS, traction control, and ESC, it will be hard for them to hold value. Fortunately, there have been great deals on the 06.5+ Optima almost since it arrived, although ... Read More
2009 Kia Optima
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Re: 09 Optima Web Site Now Up [csandste]
I went to the site and noticed one really BIG thing on the Build and Price section: it appears ESC is now standard on every trim level, including the base LX 5MT!!! This is a very pleasant surprise, since it was never mentioned in any of Kia's announcements about the 2009 Optima. I would think they would have made a bigger deal out of it, since not that many mid-sized sedans ... Read More
Kia Optima Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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2008 Optima EX V6
My parents are being offered 19,900 for a 2008 EX V6 with Sunroof, leather, ESC package. MSRP 23,900. 3500 off in rebates and another 500 just to hit my mom's goal of being under 20K. Are there any other incentives out there we don't know about? Any more wiggle room in KIA? They're not into haggling. But its a bit more car than they wanted. They just wanted a sunroof and ... Read More
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2008 Kia Optima LX with rear spoiler I4 engine $14,496 + TTL ($15,728.00 OTD) Do you guys think that's a good deal?
Kia Optima 2006.5-2008
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New to Optima
Bought a 2007 with 14k on the odometer a couple of weeks ago from CarMax. My 2001 Ford Focus hit 99k and started falling apart at all ends. Read many articles on the net before I decided to buy this car. Tried out Camry and Accord but they were out of my price range. I guess it's true that those two hold strong resale value. What I read on the Optima... ... Read More
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [m6user]
The $3K discount,or cash back,applies only to the 6 cyl Optima.The 2008 Optima I4 gets $2K back.Tried to find one with MSRP of #16K. Good luck...I tried.Hyundai has a bigger discount,but the MSRP is higher.
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [jeffyscott]
I've tracked Mazda6 and Optima prices for some time and I can verify that it is indeed possible to get a discount of $5k or so on a 2008 Mazda6. At a little over $16k for a Mazda6i VE, it was a pretty compelling deal for me... EXCEPT no ESC on the 2008 Mazda6i (it's hard to find on the Optima, but possible). However, the Optima LX is available pretty nicely ... Read More
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [mickeyrom]
we are going way off subject Is comparing the pricing of midsize sedans is considered to be off-topic here in the midsize sedans comparison discussion? Clearly you are surprised by what the actual selling price of the Mazda6 had been, as I had postulated :) . The point being that Kia and Hyundai are not the only lower priced options in the midsize segment. The Mazda6 and at times Ford Fusion ... Read More
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [mickeyrom]
.....Wrooooong! I priced a 2008, and I have never seen a current model of any brand with a 4 cylinder engine discounted anywhere close to $5000.At any rate we are going way off subject,so ...have a nice day...peace... I just bought a 2008 Mazda6 4 cylinder with a MSRP of $22.1K for $17K before taxes and DMV fees. so a 5.1K discount. I also had the option to buy a fully ... Read More
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [mickeyrom]
2008 Mazda6 4 cylinder currently has a $2750 factory rebate, so $5K total discount sounds pretty close.
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [m6user]
.....Wrooooong! I priced a 2008, and I have never seen a current model of any brand with a 4 cylinder engine discounted anywhere close to $5000.At any rate we are going way off subject,so ...have a nice day...peace...
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [mickeyrom]
I think the key word in Jeffy's response was "were" on the Mazda6 pricing. He is referring to the 2008/2007s before the new Mazda6 which is what you are pricing on the Mazda web. Don't know why you would compare a newly redesigned model that just came out with no discounting to your Optima pricing. a 2008 Mazda6 equipped as he described was selling all over Chicagoland for $5k to $5.5k ... Read More
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [jeffyscott]
I have driven the Mazda6 numerous times and it does handle more crisply than the Optima. But the Optima is definitely a sharper handler than cars like the Camry and Sonata, and even the 2008 Accord, while it does have a "supple" ride (which I see as a positive and not the same as "soft"). So someone who highly values crisp handling would probably not find the Optima to his liking, ... Read More
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Re: backy, don't they offer an '08 Optima [iluvmysephia1]
On the '08 Optima, ABS and ESC are always optional and come together in a package. And you can't just get a base LX or EX with that package--you have to get other stuff too, e.g. the $1000 Appearance Package on the LX I4. It's ridiculous to me that in 2008 an important safety feature like ABS is optional on a mid-sized family sedan. And that ESC is so hard to ... Read More
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Re: A week with a Kia Optima [backy]
It was the I4 LX with 5 speed auto and, I believe, 16 inch wheels. My legs may be a bit longer, 34 inch inseam. Other than not going back quite far enough and wanting a longer seat cushion, the seat was comfortable (if that makes sense)...so for anyone for which those were not issues, it would likely be fine. I do see they list front leg room at 43.7 inches ... Read More
Kia Optima Real World MPG
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Re: Four cylinger: 20.3-- mostly around town [mickeyrom]
The stock KUMHO tires on the 2008 Optima have a max pressure of 44psi and KIA recommends 30psi. I split the difference and run at approximately 37psi. Changing over to nitrogen to replace the air is also an added bonus to prolong the life of the tire. But the most important aspect the I have found to increase mpgs is my speed; keeping 60-65mph does decrease gas consumption.
Kia Optima 2006.5-2008
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Re: EX I4--leather or not? [backy]
I purchased a 2006.5 Kia Optima in January of this year. It was the Lx v6 with the appearance package. No leather. Even though it was 2008 the car was still brand new and I got the car for 14,250. The car is great. I also found out from numerous people and consumer reports that it is very hard to find the ESC/ABS on these cars. I wonder why that is. ... Read More
Kia Optima Real World MPG
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mickeyrom...
Kia body designs rock! They really do...I took a look at the new world order Kia Optima but decided to go with the 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS. The Lancer's body style has me mesmerized it's so cool. But Kia outdoes Honda, Nissan, Subaru and Toyota in body designing. The Optima's design lines are clean and smart. Kia's and Hyundai's aren't "perfect" cars, crossovers and SUV's but they are right up there ... Read More
Kia Optima 2006.5-2008
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Re: EX I4--leather or not? [mickeyrom]
I think things may have changed for 2008. I happen to have a brochure from 2007 and it mentions a "leather package" for the EX. No such package now on the EX. I did go to kia.com, "build your own" or whatever. Also the list of features there--where it shows both leather and cloth checked off for the EX I4. Anyway, it may be a moot point. Last night I checked ... Read More
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Re: EX I4--leather or not? [backy]
Leather on Optimas is an option.Not sure about 2008s,but in 2006.5 you had a leather package or an appearance package.They have some weird ways of equipping their cars, If you go to www.kia.com and "build" an Optima,you'll get the idea.
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EX I4--leather or not?
I am a bit confused over what I've seen online re the interior trim on the 2008 Optima EX I4, so I'd appreciate help from anyone with knowledge of the EX's interior. When I look at kia.com, in the features summary for the Optima, both "leather" and "cloth" are marked for the EX I4. Then when I look at options packages for the EX I4, it says that leather-trimmed interior is ... Read More
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Note to Host
Could we please change the title of this discussion? Since the 2006.5-2008 Optimas are the same, how about "Kia Optima 2006.5-2008"? There's already a discussion for the refreshed 2009 Optima, and one for the pre-2006.5 Optima, so that would give us continuous coverage for all years of the Optima. Right now there's a little gap--no general discussion for the 2006.5 or 2008 Optimas. Thanks!
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Re: May 2008 Sales up Despite... [backy]
But if I looked ONLY at the Accord, I'd miss out on several other fine mid-sized cars such as the Altima, Aura, Camry, Fusion/Milan, Malibu, Optima, Passat, and Sonata that have all been redesigned in the past five years. There may be many potential car consumers not interested in the ownership of Ford, Nissan, GM, Toyota, Hyundia or Kia. So why bother looking? And more importantly why should they bother explaining ... Read More
Kia Optima Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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What's the going rate on Optimas?
Now that Honda has pretty much eliminated the 2009 Fit from my fall car shopping list (by making VSC available only on the most loaded Sport + Nav trim, which I figure with AT will go for somewhere close to $19k), I am refocusing on other cars. The Optima has been on my list for some time, but with current incentives at $3500 and the refreshed 2009 Optima coming in the ... Read More
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Price for a "new" 2007?
A dealer close to me is promoting "special purchase" a sale on 2007 Kia Optimas. These cars are new (no miles), but just didn't sell, and now this dealer has about a couple dozen of them. The 2008 model of the same car currently carries a $3000 rebate. I'm very interested in buying one of the 2007 models - if I can get a good deal. The problem is, I have ... Read More
Kia Optima Real World MPG
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Re: broonsby... [iluvmysephia1]
I do you have the 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS? Or the DS or GL? I have the 2008 ES (red) w/ 2L I4, CVT, Sun & Sound package, 5 spoke alloys. Stereo is easily one of the best factory installs on the market period. And I'm picky about my stereos. The low profile tires aren't such a great suggestion in Maine with our bad winters. Potholes abound & more than once ... Read More
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broonsby...
do you have the 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS? Or the DS or GL? All are good cars. I bought a 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS in Rally Red and automatic CVT tranny, Sun and Sound Package(650-watt Rockford Fosgate 9-speaker AM/FM/CD/MP3 stereo ;) and sunroof) but the lower-cost models would be a good deal and would be a good, solid car. I have the P205/45R18 Dunlop Sport Performance radials and the 10-spoke alloy ... Read More
Kia Optima 2006.5-2008
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Re: This board's been asleep for three weeks... [backy]
The 2006.5 is the 2007,but the 2008 is slightly different.I think only that the EX lost the cassette deck.However,all are pretty much the same car with the same issues and same power train so why not consolidate.I'm all for it.BTW has anyone looked up KIA Optima on youtube? There is one guy who really...really loves his KIA.Others ...not so much...
2009 Kia Optima
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2009 Kia Optima
Word is out that the Optima will get a significant make-over for 2009, including powertrain upgrades and styling tweaks. Let's talk about it and share what you know about it! I think the 2006.5-2008 Optima is a solid offering in the mid-sized class, with just the right blend of room, ride comfort, handling, size, and tasteful styling inside and out. And the price is right. Only two things I don't like: ... Read More
Kia Optima 2006.5-2008
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2009 Optima facelift
For 2009 model year, Optima will receive a major design update. Facelift will also include an engines upgrade which will then offer more hp and lower fuel consumption. While we are searching for additional informations, you can check for some spy shots: http://www.kia-world.net/index.php/2008/03/14/2009-kia-optima-facelift/
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The thing is is that things like
ESC and ABS are nice safety additions, but, are they totally and really necessary? I am not sold that they are. What's wrong with careful and steady and intelligent driving? The Hyundai Sonata was being put down by several people early on(the newly re-designed Sonata built in Alabama I'm talking about here)for having a front seat that bent down too much at the front, resulting in an uncomfortable sitting position. The ... Read More
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Re: CR kudos [macsan]
The advantage the Fit has over the Elantra for safety is that at least we know the IIHS side crash test result on the Fit--"Good". We don't know on the Elantra. The rear IIHS test wasn't very good on the Fit however--I expect that will improve with the new design this year. And the Elantra SE has the standard ESC, vs. none on the Fit. Back to the Optima though... it ... Read More
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Hey csandste and mickeyrom...
how y'all been? I am still on the site though I spend lots of time over in 'News and Views' and, since I have a 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS, over in the Mitsubishi Lancer forums. I always stop in here and read your posts, but, since I'm no longer looking for a Kia Optima to purchase I don't often comment in here. I bought my Lancer GTS in March of '07 ... Read More
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Re: where is it? [tjdepere2004]
It has not been discontinued. There are actually some changes from the 2007,but it looks exactly the same.Why don't you just google 2008 KIA Optima.
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Re: 2008 KIA Optima [mickeyrom]
So, no change in options packages, e.g. you still need to buy the "appearance pacakge" to get ABS and ESC on the LX? Bummer. I wish Kia would get with the program and offer both features standard, or at the least easily-available options. :(
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2008 KIA Optima
It seems to be more or less same as the 2007,but the EX no longer has a casette player.Almost all of the specs are the same.
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Re: Toyota [Sporin]
Question is, how long can Toyota grow and prosper on reputation alone? How long before the masses notice the change? Try "now." A cousin of mine is going to buy a mid-sized sedan before the end of the year. He didn't even consider the Camry seriously based on what he's heard about quality and how it drives. He's narrowed it down to the Accord LX and Sonata GLS or SE (I4 ... Read More
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Re: Disappointment [urnews]
Today, it is safe to say, the Camcords are the benchmarks in the mid-size market but the competition is keen and getting more so. I don't know that it is safe to say that anymore, at least in terms of professional opinion. Three examples: 1) In C/D's last comparo of mid-sized sedans, three cars outscored the new Camry: the prior-gen Accord, the new Altima, and the Optima. That the new Camry ... Read More
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Re: Accord joins Legacy as IIHS Top Picks [colloquor]
Conspiracy theory, again! Of the sixteen vehicles listed in that link (previous post), only one is from 2007 (Kia Optima). 2008 Accord and Camry have been out for couple of months but 2008 Malibu is the newest, and still found itself being tested. Payola?
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Re: Residuals can be deceiving [robertsmx]
I think there is a resemblance between the front of the 1998 Accord and the current Sonata. I also think that resemblance is coincidental. The grille and headlamps on the 1998 Accord are very generic, and there's similar shapes on many other cars. We already know what car the next Sonata (2009 MY refresh) has in its sights: the Hyundai Genesis. If you believe that Hyundai intentionally copied the 1998 Accord ... Read More
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Re: Aura I4 [backy]
Why not get the 'o7 then? If you do not need the larger 2008, just go for the 2007 and get the deal. You may avoid the first year out blues too. I hear of some 6-4-3 engine now for the V6. Sounds like possible trouble to me. And I do not need the car to be an inch taller, nor three inches longer, as it is pretty big already. And ... Read More
Kia Optima 2006.5-2008
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micro999...
do you own one of the new world order Kia Optima's? It is a nice car that I considered for a while. I appreciated your comments on the new Kia V6 2.7L engine. Good insight from an informed person is usually a good thing, eh? csandste...nope, my wife and I traded the beloved '01 Sportage 4x4 in on a 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS! With the CVT engine and the Sun and ... Read More
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Re: 2008 Honda Accord [thenebean]
I see a lot of resemblance to the Optima, except the taillights, which do look to me like (truncated) Sonata or Lexus lamps. Since Honda obviously did not set out to mimic a Kia, it just shows once again that there are only so many wants to bend sheet metal on a sedan.
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Re: sales of midsize sedans in March [elroy5]
Let me clarify what I said earlier: these incentives and deals on the Accord didn't just start appearing in the past few months, on 5-year-old Accords (design-wise). They have been around for about 2 years. Coinciding with the arrival of the '06 Sonata, the first truly competitive mid-sized offering from Hyundai. I don't think it was a coincidence. It will be interesting to see what happens if Honda drops incentives on ... Read More
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Is it that different?
Is the horsepower of todays cars that different than the massive V8 horsepower wars of 30-45 years ago, really? I mean, if cars can have 260+ horsepower and have 2008 revised fuel economy estimates in the mid 20s combined like the Camry does, where is the problem? Bring on the power if the economy comes with it, I say. Apparently, power matters to some people, or they wouldn't get the V6 ... Read More
Kia Optima 2006.5-2008
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Did we ever get that question answered
about the 2006.5 and 2007 Kia Optima's and their timing chain instead of timing belt? Was it just on the 2.4L 4 cyl engine that a timing chain is installed and not on the 6? Or was this found to be bunk information? csandste...I found out yesterday that the 2008 Chevy Malibu us not going to have a manual tranny on any model 'Bu. I have removed myself from that particular ... Read More
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csandste...
overall, how do you like your Optima's interior? I haven't looked at many pictures of the '06.5 and '07 Optima interior shots. So far I haven't found much to dislike about the new Optima. And if I can indeed talk them down using a college grad.rebate, customer loyalty rebate, etc., I may get a price on a base LX model w/5-speed transmission for something in the low 15's somewhere. For that ... Read More
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Re: 2007 Optimas? [live4tech]
The "2006.5" Optima was essentially an early intro 2007 and will be a carry-over at least through the 2007 model year - likely through the 2008 model year, too. Automobile rebates are a marketing tool to move slow selling cars with the unintended consequence of coincidentally reducing later trade-in value.* If KIA division of corporate parent Hyundai gets the directive to offer rebates, it'll happen. Otherwise it won't. *The real losers ... Read More
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The Edmunds TCO® estimated monthly insurance payment for a 2008 Kia Optima in CA is:
$164 per month*
* Explanation
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