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I'm not particularly knowledgable about such things but..... I have a 2001 JGC. I had a problem arise effecting both the heater vent controls and the cruise control. Both stopped working at the same time. I did some research online and learned that it was due to a vaccuum leak. Took the car to a mechanic and explained what I found online. He found and fixed the leak and both issue ... Read More
if it stalls after 2 to 3 sec after start its the alarm smart key try reseting remove 1 screw from bottom of colom and you will see a black box that reads the key un plug it and turn the key on the acc then dissconect neg batt what 5 min put colom back together conect batt and you should be all set
did you get this problem fixed
Purchased an 01 GC, has a inline 6, 4.0. having problems with it running, ill turn on but stall 3-5 secs later, before i go changing all the sensors id like to know where i should start, i thought it might be electrical so ive tried the backing off the screws/cleaning connecters to the comp, i cleaned the IAC vavle. also oil pressure rising once its running with the help of ... Read More
2001 Jeep GC, 133K miles. Daughter driving it, stopped at a red light, put into park. Tried to put back in drive, would not go past neutral. Put it back into park and turned it off. Would not start after that. Acted like it was not into park/gear (not even trying to turn over). Tranny shop say it needs ripped apart and rebuilt ($1800-2400 guesstimate). Anybody had similar issues? Thoughts comments ... Read More
Hi Hopefully someone out there can help! I have a 4.7lt 2001 Grand Cherokee 150,000 miles on the clock and have had problems with the gearbox when the engine warms up. From cold until say 20 miles running everything is fine and then it drops down into 3rd gear with no response then from the overdrive button. When cold this is not and issue only when it warms up. The jeep ... Read More
Hi, sorry to hear you are having issue's. these jeep's are great but have been known to have electrical issue's. I had the same problem with mine. Now i alway's turn the key just far enough to turn on all the electronic's and listen for the fuel pump to run and stop then it crank's on the third revolution of the engine every time. the fuel will ease back to the ... Read More
2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee: intermittent no crank/turn over/start when turning key, but all electrical is okay. I do have an after-market remote starter/alarm system. Not sure if this is a contributing factor or not. Car will subsequently start on the 2nd or 3rd try when I do experience the no-start on the 1st try. Probably happens every couple of days. Any thoughts? Thanks!
I have a 2001 jeep grand Cherokee Laredo 4wd 4.7L v8 with 107,000 miles when it shifts from 2nd to 3rd at lite or normal throttle it shifts hard but if you are accelerating hard it shifts fine the transmission is a 45RFE the hard shifting is after i have drove it for 20 miles or so the temp is around 190 top 200 2nd question is there a check engine ... Read More
I just had to same problem on July 3rd. Driving down on a main street and as soon as I stopped, died. Turned it on. Nothing. Did it again. Still nothing. Police showed up, said 'whats going on?' I said 'when you find out, let me know". Well, the problem that we found was that the timing chain needed to be replaced. The teeth of the chain were so worn out, ... Read More
I have a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo that the tranny went out on. I replaced the transmisson, put the transmission fluid in it and went to fire it up for a test drive. Backed out of the drive way and didnt make it 25 feet before it stalled out. Thought it was a battery issue so i went and got a new battery, installed it and started it up again. ... Read More
I experienced the same problem with my father's 2001 Grand Cherokee Laredo. Water leaking onto the passenger floor during a rain storm. I traced it to the drain tube for the sun roof that runs down behind the interior trim on the passenger's side A-pillar. It was broken and all the water draining from around the sunroof was running down inside that trim, through the dash and onto the floor. The ... Read More
bear with me, bought my jeep new in 01, this year at 130,000 miles, replaced trani with new, fuel filler pipe, brakes, (always with the brakes) fuel line, muffler, rear end, have always maintained perfectly, now my pcm is gone, have been in contact with chrysler for three weeks, ordered part, they have no idea when delivery, hundreds on back order, even after market are on back order, apparently, according to ... Read More
I sold my 2001 Jeep and I'm glad I did. But before I did I figured out the problem. It's in the computer. There is a short. There are 2 screws that hold the computer to the base thingy. Remove the screws, put a washer on each screw and screw it back in. I think it was a 10mm, it was thin. It keeps the screws from grounding out the computer. ... Read More
i am having this same problem. my 2001 jeep grand cherokee laredo 4.0 v6 i turn it over and it starts. i shut it off and turn it over it starts back up. if i drive somewhere and shut it off it wont start. but if i roll it while i have the ignition turned over then it starts fine. there is no lag in the starter one it cranks and ... Read More
I had the same issues with my 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee about 2 months ago. In the end it was the PCM. Problem started with gauges not working. Then starting/stalling issue. No a/c, windows occasionally would not work. After researching a lot of forums and blogs I tried several things. Cleaned battery terminals. Tested several modules for a short (window, MIC etc..). I had 2 problem codes, P1686 (no SKIM bus) ... Read More
I just went out to my wonderful reliable jeep and disconected the battery, (again) and removed the coolant resevoir tank, removed the 3 connectors to the PCM and the two above attached to the firewall. I sprayed all pins with electronic contact cleaner, and blew out everything with compressed air. Re-attached everything and turned key on I realized I had gauge readings. So I tried starting and it started right up. ... Read More
I have the same Jeep and same problem! Please post how you resolved this and I will do the same. I am re-trying reset power now. Code reader says I have "no sentry key" and immobilizer Module" message. I have three keys and two worked. The third would unlock but only start for a few seconds. I have previously replaced lock mechanism and ignition switch. Both keys worke since June but ... Read More
I have a 2001 jeep grand cherokee. I am currently having problems getting it started. It will start for 3-5 seconds and stall out. I checked the fuel rail and Im getting plenty amounts of gas. However on rare occasion it starts up, my gauges and sometimes windows and door locks dont work. Although my dash lights do. I checked for a faulty instrument cluster and a bad ground... not the ... Read More
I have a 2001 jeep grand cherokee. I am currently having problems getting it started. It will start for 3-5 seconds and stall out. I checked the fuel rail and Im getting plenty amounts of gas. However on rare occasion it starts up, my gauges and sometimes windows and door locks dont work. Although my dash lights do. I checked for a faulty instrument cluster and a bad ground... not the ... Read More
I have owned 2 Jeeps, a 2001 JGC Laredo (loaded but with I6 and Selec trac, your best bet in that vintage) and the past 4 years a 07 Laredo with 4.7 V8. Note that one wasn't my first choice but my wife really likes Jeeps and the price was $8k less than the GMCAcadia equivalent features vehicle. So far the 07 has been a good vehicle, at 42k miles no ... Read More
I have major problems with my 2001 JEEP Grand Cherokee. It first started a few months ago while driving, the JEEP would jolt as though it was trying to cut off. After a month of that it did start cutting off while driving and at stop signs/lights. I would have to put the car into neutral and restart- while driving!!! After about 2 months of this it would not start easily, ... Read More
HI PLEASE DID YOU EVER FIND OUT WHAT WAS WRONG WITH YOUR JEEP??? I NEED HELP!!! Hopefully you are still on this site. I have major problems with my 2001 JEEP Grand Cherokee. It first started a few months ago while driving, the JEEP would jolt as though it was trying to cut off. After a month of that it did start cutting off while driving and at stop signs/lights. I ... Read More
Hi Please tell me what sensor you had replaced??? Hopefully you are still on this site. I have major problems with my 2001 JEEP Grand Cherokee. It first started a few months ago while driving, the JEEP would jolt as though it was trying to cut off. After a month of that it did start cutting off while driving and at stop signs/lights. I would have to put the car into ... Read More
Hopefully you are still on this site. I have major problems with my 2001 JEEP Grand Cherokee. It first started a few months ago while driving, the JEEP would jolt as though it was trying to cut off. After a month of that it did start cutting off while driving and at stop signs/lights. I would have to put the car into neutral and restart- while driving!!! After about 2 months ... Read More
Hi Jeff, Hopefully you are still on this site. I have major problems with my 2001 JEEP Grand Cherokee. It first started a few months ago while driving, the JEEP would jolt as though it was trying to cut off. After a month of that it did start cutting off while driving and at stop signs/lights. I would have to put the car into neutral and restart- while driving!!! After about ... Read More
2001 Grand Cherokee 67,000 miles. Florida so really cold weather not an issue. Oil and filter always changed on time If parked on a slight hill with engine end of the vehicle down-hill there is a with 20-30 second delay in rise of oil pressure after starting the vehicle. Guage sits on ZERO and check engine guage lite comes on--no engine noises. Then guage goes up to proper level but sometimes ... Read More
I am working on a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the 4.7L engine, I had the heads off because of the vehicle overheating and had the heads milled and all valves and seats replaced, while into the engine I replaced the timing chains and guides, now I can't get it set up right, I keep bending the intake valve on cylinder #1 and I don't know what I am doing wrong, ... Read More
I own a WJ 2001 grand jeep cherokee,4.7L The problum that i got is the heater, and the heating seats, will not turn off when the key is in the off position and removed, you can turn them off manually, and after a few days the battery is dead, i have done some research on this from other Forums, they say that the Ignition Switch is at falt, and to cheak ... Read More
Tonight, the rear hatch door on my 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee started making a loud (as in I can hear it from several feet away) grinding-like noise whenever the doors are unlocked. Since the doors automatically unlock when the driver's door is opened from the inside or the unlock button on the key ring is pressed twice, it is a bit annoying and worrisome. As far as I can tell, the ... Read More
I had the PRECISE problem on a 2001. I looked at every post and every hint or solution provided. Only a few had the problem I had and a poor battery, dirty battery post or battery ground fixed some of them. It didn't help mine. On my Jeep, not only would it run perfectly for a few seconds (I think 15 was the max) it would then totally shut off without ... Read More
2001 jeep Grand Cherokee cruise control works good, but when driving with cruise set and outside air temp goes below 40 degrees, the engine rpm will jump 300 rpm and drop back to where it was running as set. The driving speed will not change, only rpm increase. I can duplicate the same jump by hitting the CANCEL button and instantly hitting the RESUME button, allowing the engine to increase rpm's ... Read More
Hello all. 1st off I want to congratulate everybody on their new 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokees. The positive press this Jeep has gotten is incredible. It is sharp and rugged looking and the interior is beautiful. My current daily driver is a 2001 Honda Prelude Type SH that has over 134,000 miles. I'm still in love with how my car drives after almost 9 years (purchased new in April 2002 as ... Read More
just wonder if you were able to fix your problem, because i have a similar problem on my 2001 jeep cherokee, when i press on the brakes it feel and sound like there's an air leak under the brake pedal, not su re
with that many codes has to be wire or connector i have a jeep shop manual and dosent show any of those codes for a 2001 jeep those codes for 2005 liberty which has different trans check wire harness that comes from trans
where did you get codes as cnt find them in the jeep repair manual for the grand ch from jeep with that many codes would think of a wire connection loose
its posable but is it by a wheel or in the middle of the jeep if in middle then pinion seal is leaking if by tire then wheel bearing seal your regular mech should be able to change wheel bearing and seal i also dont think trip should cause problem just brake safe dont tailgate how big of pool? tony b
Hi everyone, Picked up my 2001 JGC from the dealership yesterday and drove about 25 miles. It handled nicely. I was told to drive somewhat cautiously (like a new car) for the next 500 miles i.e. and avoid sudden accelerations. I was also told that after some time I ought to check the oil level - it might be low, as it fills the nooks and crannies. Total Cost: $1065.00 Parts: ... Read More
Thanks to all who have piped in here. To bring you up to date. I discovered that code P1762 flashed on the code reader. I took it to AAmco where they gave me their free analysis. Seems there is something awful under the hood. It might come out to $2000 to 2500+ to have it fixed. No promises. The need to tear it apart and see what's really wrong. Before I ... Read More
You may want to have a look at Jeep Grand Cherokee PCM and Jeep Grand Cherokee PCM Module Replacement. tidester, host SUVs and Smart Shopper
I have a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L and my AC quit working. I thought it was the compressor clutch plate so I fixed the spacer on it and still nothing. Started checking continuity through AC Clutch relay in fuse box and found out I was not getting a signal from the side connected to the PCM to tell it to come on. Got a wiring diagram and found out there ... Read More
i have a 2001 jeep grand cherokee. my battery went dead and we jumped it. it will turn over but wont fire. i hear the fuel pump coming on. so its getting fuel. if i push the accelerator and try starting it it will start but as soon as i let off the pedal it dies immediately. can someone help? of course the warranty expired last month.
I have 2001 Grand Cher. Lmt. 4X4. 98K miles on same exact problem. Although the vibration occurs when weather is HOT & when i needed to use my air conditioner, it does vibrates more & it is LOUD!!!! super annoying.. All my oil temparuature inside my dash board is normal as well as engine temp. I took my car to my mechanic, he plugged into diagnostic test over the computer system ... Read More
Yup, same thing just happened to me this weekend. My mechanic quoted me $338 to fix it. Think I'll try fixing it myself with an after-market regulator. Not at all happy to find out it's a known problem and Jeep won't do anything about it.
Jeep Grand Cherokee Transmission Problems may be helpful. tidester, host SUVs and Smart Shopper
i have a jeep gc ltd auto 1,2,3, R is all fine but when i get to about 60 mph it seems i have no 4th or its not going into 4th.have to take foot of the gas till it gets to about 50,55 mph and its fine any help would be great.
That seems to have worked! Thanks for your help!
I had this problem with my 99 Grand Cherokee Laredo. The mechanics said my battery was fine so I changed out the battery terminal connections (old) and I have not had that problem since...
I had the problem back in November. AAA came and jumped my car, said the battery was fine. It did it again and I also had power on the inside of the car. Took it to the Mobile gas station at the corner and they tested the battery again and said it was fine as well as all of the connections. As soon as the mechanic was getting ready to close ... Read More
Since it started when it is jumped i would rule out anything sensor related in your car, if it had been your starter, jumping would not have helped. I know you said you checked battery, but it really sounds like a bad battery. You said you took the battery some place. Out of car you took it? I don't trust a check like that on the counter of a parts store, ... Read More
I have a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4.0, 6 cyl that won't turn over. My wife stopped and filled it up at the gas station and when she went to leave, it wouldn't turn over. We jumped it at the gas station and it started fine and we were able to get it home. Took the battery in and the battery was fine. We changed out the starter and have ... Read More
Hi Jodie, my wife and I are now having the same noise with our 2001 JGC....did you ever figure out how to fix your noise? Ours started after having our transmission leak fix but the transmissions shop doesn't seem to know how to fix it. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Hey folks, Would replacing the wrong fluids in the diff cause damage? replacing 70/140 with 70/90 ? Need a bit of advice ... I took my vehicle in to one of these quick lube places ... they had recommended changing the fluids in the front and rear diffs. I was not experiencing any issues with the vehicle but since the fluids as far as I know were not changed ... I ... Read More
could be your shifter is not seating it self properly in PARK. if the car thinks it is not in park, it will not start... good luck alan
Have a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee. When I turn the ignitions to start it up it won;t turn on. The lights/radio work though. With key turned all the way to start I put the car in Neutral and let it roll for 3 - 5 seconds. The place it back in Park and then it turns on just fine (Most of the time). I'm not getting any error codes or a ... Read More
i have a 2001 grand cherokee that will not idle after warming up. is there a sensor bad and where is it located?
I just found this problem last night on my 2002 JGC and my boyfriend found this to fix it. http://www.topix.com/forum/autos/jeep-grand-cherokee/T63DRCOTUFKMHQ207 First, I want to say thank you for the info, you saved me money and aggravation. Second it took me a little while to figure out what contact I was looking for. So I would like to provide a little more detail to make it easier for others in the future. ... Read More
I was driving on a slight incline and heard this grinding/clucking noise underneath the bottom in the center I continued to drive no noise then as I came to the slight inclined I heard this noise again Has any one else had this to happen What is this noise?
The radio controls on the steering wheel not working
Spent some time looking through those posts...didn't see anything that aligned, and, since that is for Grand Cherokees, wasn't sure how applicable it would be to my Cherokee Classic anyway. Did they make the electrical systems the same on these two models?
You may want to have a look at Jeep Grand Cherokee Electrical Problems. tidester, host SUVs and Smart Shopper
Can anyone help me with this New Problum, I own a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.7, i drove it yesterday and it was running great, now today it will not turn over,when you open the hood you smell a strong electrics burning under the battery? Does anybody know why i am getting a strong smell of electrics burning and would this stop the truck from turning over. Also i replaced the ... Read More
i'm having exactly same problem on 2001 grand cherokee limited I6. searched on the internet for months, and still havn't found anyone that claims a definite solution. since money is really the issue, i really dont' want to replace oil pump, oil pressure sending unit, etc etc until i can be sure it's really the cause. before the oil pressure problem popped out, i had a coolant leaking issue, i fixed ... Read More
Currently looking to buy a new jeep gc limited with the hemi.Dealers msrp $43,875 Manufacturer Rebate of $6,000 and preferred customer rebate of $4,605. Which brings the selling price to $33,270. I offered my paid for 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L with 46k miles in excellent condition for trade (mostly stored inside and never seen snow) they offered $11,000 I feel its a little low. I also was offering my wife's ... Read More
I had the same problem on my Ford PU, and it turned out the flexible brake lines on both sides had swollen on the inside, restricting the return of the brake bluid to the master cylinder. If your brake components are clean of rust so that they can move freely, then it is probably those lines or the brake cylinders themselves.
Four wheel discs,auto,inline six,2 whl drive. Have intermittent front brake (both) problem.They do not fully retract. Park the car and they will retract, This is only the front. Backs are ok. Vehicle has 103,000 miles, Stops straight line, no lights and ABS lite lights when car strarts and then goes out as it should. Changed master cyl -did not correct problem. Power booster seems ok per book tests. The pedal gets ... Read More
search ac drain on the forum for jeep will show you how to fix
yes sir i have a 2000 grand cheroke and i got the same problem sorry but i don have the solution but in my jeep that happen when i turn the ac on not the heater just the ac so the problem is somewhere in the ac sisten i still workin on that if i find out i letyou know
look up plugged ac drain in jeep grand cherokee in a search lots of returns to check out
plugged drain for the ac unit on the pass side of the jeep next to the trans hump there is a case that holds the ac evaporator that sweats when you ac the drain is plugged you can carefully drill a hole at the bottom of the case and use a small wire to clean it out the drain sticks through-the firewall by the pas side have to look down where ... Read More
Yes, I do have a moon roof, so that would explain some of the water in the floorboard when it rains, but I have water in the floor most all of the time. What else could it be?
do you have a moon roof if so that is the drain tube for around the moon roof
I have a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee and I’m getting a lot of water in the passenger side floorboard. At first I thought it might be loosing coolant through the heater core, but it’s not coolant in the floor. I noticed water dripping out from underneath the side panel and thought the windshield might be leaking…Since that needed to be replaced anyway, I went a head and had that done and ... Read More
Hi. I just bought a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo and it needs rear brake pads and rotors. I took it to the dealer and to other auto care center and the difference in the price from both places is $83. Is it worth paying that extra in the dealer? What could be the difference in the results? I'll appreciate any suggestions, thanks
I serviced my 97 jeep transmission last summer and I swear I had enough fluid in it, but my mechanic said it was low. Added fluid and problems went away. It would be interesting to know how the transmission cooler is suppose to work and if it is OK. Is it under pressure like your cooling system and how can you measure it? As a precaution you might want to verify ... Read More
A damaged torque converter shouldn't affect reverse but the whole tranny. I would think If the torque converter was damaged that it wouldn't move. On my jeep there is something I think is a sensor, i'll look, it's on the bellhousing. I'm not sure if a vavle engages reverse or a solenoid, my guess would be a solenoid to engage reverse, but i'm not sure i'll see what I find. Also ... Read More
I have a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L, 2x4. The transmission has been slipping. The code came up 0740 pointing to the torque converter. I replaced the Pressure transducer, Pressure solenoid in the governor, fluid, new filter and I drove it for a few days. The slipping seemed to be gone. Then the transmission icon on the dash came on. This was the first time it came on, with the prior ... Read More
I had the blower motor resistor problem on my 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee where the connector melts. I am replacing the connector and noticed there is always 12 volts going to the connector, even when my Jeep is off. Is this normal?
Sounds like your temperature sensor. Just had mine replaced for $ 158.00. They are easy to put in if you know anybody that can do it. You can buy the part at autozone. Good LUck
If you pay somebody to rebuild your engine or install a used engine, make sure you get a 90 day warranty on the compression test. V8 is cool. But, assuming it can be made compatible, maybe an I6 would be easier to find and cheaper. My 97 2wd JGC has the 4.0 I6. Acceleration was good but I don't tow
My 98 Cherokee with an AW4 transmission had the same symptoms. Not sure what your transmission is. I brought mine to a transmission repair shop for a free first time estimate, and all he could tell me he was the fluid was a little dirty and he didn't know what was wrong. According to him, my only option was a total rebuild. Then I thought, what the heck, I'll bring it ... Read More
What type of pricing are you seeing for you to replace your guys' engines?
We just recently had one of our 2001 Jeep GC throw a piston through the engine block, and are replacing it with a remanufactured engine. Ours is a 4.0L engine. How many people are having/had this issue?
My 2000 jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 has the same issues,i am in the process of replacing the engine with another low mileage engine.It might be very costly to try to repair.I would search around to see if I could get another engine if I were you.
Hi , I need help !! my 2001 jeep has 150K on it , and when i take off the car is so heavy like putting a lot of effort ( i assume the transmission starts from the 2nd) and it will not shift to 3rd or 4th unless i start driving with the shift is on 2 and when i aproch a highway i shift it to D and OD ... Read More
I have a 4.7 Litre V8 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee. Totally out of the blue it threw a connecting rod and the piston went up into the head. We now have to get a new engine. Has this happened to anyone else? Is this common in Jeeps? Do you think it is worth repairing?
Man it sounds like there is a lot of problems with your jeeps. OK now I have one for you. I own a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo. The battery and alt. or both good. The jeep turns over just fine but wont start all of the time. If I keep playing with the key as in turning it on and off a bunch of times finally i hear the fuel ... Read More
hi just bought jeep grand cherokee, 87000ml, had engine problem, fixed it easy, but now trans is playing. on D it would jump from 1st to 3rd, would need to rev engine quit a bit to to it. and would not go to 4th. but if i would start drive on 2, not on D, it would shift from 1st to 2nd(would still need to rev it hard to get it ... Read More
the problem is a crank sensor located on driver's side near the top of the transmission i know this cause i was having same problem i took it to the dealer to have it fixed cost was 299.00 but was worth it cause there were a bunch of re-call that needed to be fixed on my jeep good luck..
I have a problem with my 2001 jeep grand cherokee. I took it to the automotive place twice and they found nothing wrong with, but it keeps on dying on me. i drive it to run arrands and it just dies. then like 20 mins later it starts up and drives like nothing........I thought it would be the battery so replaced it but it still dies. can anybody give me advice????? ... Read More
I am new to this forum... I have a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited with a 4.7L V8 engine. Like many JGC owners, I had had many problems along the way. Last week the car began acting out during start-up and would die immediately after a start (after trying several times) and would die in idle if the gas pedal was not pushed down to supply extra gas. The lights would ... Read More
well, the wire harness for the tow package fixed it but now the left lamp is totally out. what the heck is going on with this jeep? anyone else experience this?
I AM EXHAUSTED AT TRYing to find out why my right brake light isn't working. Replaced the bulbs, then replaced the entire light, fuse is fine. WHAT CAN IT BE - JUST BOUGHT THE JEEP!
Sounds like my jeep had a leak in the radiator,changed water pump,changed radiator, changed thermostat, and had radaitor cap checked. Bleed cooling system. Still ran hot. Removed thermostat still ran hot, The temp sensor was not completely bad, but it was reading off. My jeep was running 212. Changed senor runs 204 now. Also check and make sure your cooling system holds the correct pressure. If it was ran low on ... Read More
Last fall my engine light came on, and I took my Jeep to the dealer to get it repaired. $100 later I was told that I needed to replace my gas cap. Before I could replace it, the light went out. I bought a new gas cap, but continued to use the original after cleaning and lubricating it as it appeared to be in new condition. About a month ago, the ... Read More
hi, yes my 2001 limited does the same thing when i start from cold start. if i turn the engine off it starts right up
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