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2004 Hyundai Sonata Consumer Discussions
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Causes of Excessive Tire Wear
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Re: Reply: Causes of Excessive Tire Wear [crankeee]
Our 2012 Sonata SE has Hankook low profile tires (better handling is the goal here I believe) but they ride stiffer and are noisier which is the down side of low profile tires. Anyhow, with regard to Kuhmo tires, I have the second set (Solus KR 21's) on my 1995 Dodge Stratus and I am happy with them. The first set lasted in the neighborhood of 55-60,000 miles before I thought ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Maintenance and Repair
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Re: SPIII [autokritiker]
Thank you for the reply, autokritiker. Our Kia Optima is 2006 (earlier model, probably similar to 2004-2005 Sonata) with 4 sp auto transmission. At first I wanted to buy Redline D4 and use it for drain/refill. On their website they say it is also compatible with SPIII. Not on the bottles though. But Kia/Hyundai say only SPIII should be used. What is it that makes this ATF so special? Can it ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Front Suspension "Thunk"
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Re: 2004 Hyundai Sonata Steering/front end problems [ronna333]
I have a 2007 Hyundai Sonata Limited with the same issues. When I got over a bump, the whole car has a tendency to pitch and yaw. In getting a front end alignment done, it was found that the camber on the front wheels is pitched almost 3 degrees toward center. That is what is causing my tires to wear out from the inside. I found an Eibach camber kit, which ... Read More
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2004 Hyundai Sonata Steering/front end problems
I have a 2004 sonata it still has the dealership warranty of 4 more months. My steering wheel shakes at 55 mph or more and passengers can feel a shimmy of sorts. The last set of tires I had ended up with the right one being worn on the inside of the tire, which could have blew at any time. I replaced both front tires and had an alignment done. The ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Transmission Problems
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Re: 2011 Sonata Ride Along [kmckinnon]
FYI: Just bought a brand new 2011 Sonata. As of today, 2/26/11, the car has right at 3,000 miles. I haven't even owned the car 30 days and it has not even had it's first oil change! As of 2 days ago it is at the dealership with the identical transmission problem everyone here is writing about. I was on my way to work traveling about 45mph when it "felt" like ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Real World MPG
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2011 Sonata Limited MPG
After giving up my beloved 2004 Honda Accord with the V-6, I was looking forward to better gas mileage in my newly purchased Sonata 4 Banger.....Well after 200 miles, I am averaging 25 MPG City and just got back from a 50 Mile Trip on Highway - Averaged 38 MPG To and 34 From Destination while driving approx. 70 MPH. Needless to say, I am pretty excited. This is a new ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Transmission Problems
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2004 Hyundai Sonata V6
Transmission starting slipping. I drained the transmission fluid and added new fluid, also adding some Lucas oil to it. I bought a transmission filter and tried replacing it but was unable to find where the filter is. Some models have the transmission filter located just under the air filter housing. This is not the case on my vehicle. I bought the Haynes Manual and it doesn't have any other location specified. ... Read More
2011 Hyundai Sonata
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Re: Bucking.... [ridre52]
that is true and is a feature on Hyundai vehicles (and most models to my knowledge)- the transmission learns the way you drive and adjusts the shift points accordingly. When I acquired my 2004 Sonata V6 it was previously driven by an elderly person and the transmission would always shift around 4000 rpms, making the acceleration much less potent. After driving it for a couple of weeks it would allow my ... Read More
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Re: Warning about the 2011 Sonata [snakeweasel]
My 2001 Elantra was covered under that extended warranty also--and my sister (sold it to her a few years ago) got a new manifold for free recently, after nearly 10 years. Also, my 2004 Elantra was recalled for a problem with the gas filler tube. I don't know if my car actually had a problem, but a lot of cars were affected by the recall. There have been other Hyundai recalls ... Read More
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Car comparison
I had a 2004 Infiniti G35 coupe a couple of years back. Stats on that car as per Edmunds are: 2004 Infiniti G35: 2dr Coupe w/Leather, Automatic Curb Weight: 3422 lbs. - Horsepower: 280 hp - Torque: 270 ft-lbs. Max Torque: 4800 rpm 16 mpg / 23 mpg A Sonata Limited has a curb weight of 3199 lbs. The Turbo engine is supposed to deliver: "274 hp at 6000 rpm. Torque ... Read More
Hyundai Maintenance Policy and Service Experiences
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Brown and Brown Hyundai in Bourbonnais, Illinois
I'm on active duty in the military, I bought my 2003 Hyundai Sonota at Earnhardt Dodge/Hyundai dealership in Phoenix, AZ and my stepson crashed it into a wall in 2004. The entire front end of the vehicle was smashed in clear back to the windshield. We were told by our Statefarm rep that the car was $50 short of being totaled and that they would pay for it to be repaired ... Read More
2011 Hyundai Sonata
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Re: Black leather? [gregg_vw]
I agree - my last 2 cars (2004 Kia Amanti & 2000 Hyundai XG 300) had black leather interiors, they looked great, but I was ready for a change. Since the dash, steering wheel & trim on my Venetian red Sonata are not black, but a dark brown the camel leather coordinates nicely, a refreshing change.
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Re: New owner, new member here [jerrycup]
Welcome aboard jerry. Looks like you made a fine purchase for a first time Hyundai owner. I've been one since 2004 and plan to keep my trouble free car for 10 yrs till 2014. And that's saying something as I never kept a car for that long before. And I've had planty. I have to give you an "A" for doing your homework and research... I like that....lol Yeah we might ... Read More
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Re: It's sort of like... [carstryke]
Well yeah, back in 2004 and earlier especially, the resale was definitely weak on new Hyundais. It is come a long, long way since that. According to the Automotive Leasing Guide the new Sonata is projected at 54% resale after 3 years/36k miles, only behind the Accord (55%) and tied with the Altima.
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Re: It's sort of like... [carstryke]
yeah but 2004 Hyundai's were cheap when you got them and cheap when you sold them (I got my 2004 Sonata GLS for $16,750!! haha) so even though I sold it with 150,000 miles for only $1500 and a broken A/C compressor, I still lost the same 15K I would have on an Accord. But this Kizashi should take a cue from the 2008 Lancer GTS (the top trim) and start ... Read More
2011 Hyundai Sonata
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Re: Need help with a color choice for 2011 Sonata SE [mtnman1]
Sorry to hear about your trouble with the 2003 Sonata LX, at least it happened under warranty. I had a 2004 Sonata GLS with 150,000 miles and for the most part it was very reliable and never needed major service. Fords and Hyundais have both come a long way since then, I'm glad to say. I guess sometimes you just run into bad luck sometimes.
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Re: Sonata 2011 vs Altima 2010 [shabadoo25]
The warranty definitely put my mind at ease too.. when I realized that some cars only come with a 36,000 mile powertrain warranty, I was appauled. Things can go wrong with any car, but the Hyundais have always seemed to hold up well. If it makes you feel better, I had a 2004 Sonata V6 with 151,000 miles on it, the only thing that went wrong was a sensor ($100) and ... Read More
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Re: New Sonata Limited owner. [syitalian25]
The leather is fine, as is the dash top. It's the rest of the hard plastics in the interior that feel cheap, especially in black. At least to me. The overall appearance of the interior is much better for 2011 than on the 2004, I agree. But as someone else noted, everyone else is using hard plastics in interiors now except in luxury cars, so we can't knock Hyundai alone. A ... Read More
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Re: New Sonata Limited owner. [mikemartin]
Well, in many ways the interior bits of my 2004 Elantra are superior to those in newer cars like the 2011 Sonata. Almost all the interior trim pieces of my Elantra are padded, for example. But that is the price we pay for paying about the same price today for a Sonata GLS than what we paid 20 years ago, adjusted for inflation, for a far better car--a few interior bits ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Maintenance and Repair
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electrical system
My 2004 Hyundai Sonata system is haywire. Had to jump a low battery this week. After it was restarted the lights inside and out seem to be activated by the passenger and back doors instead of the driver doors. Windows open with keys out and doors open. Anyone know how to reset this? We are now trying disconnecting battery for a bit.
Hyundai Sonata Brakes
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Second stuck rear caliper and paint problems
I have a 2007 Sonata that has a stuck caliper for the second time in about one year. The first time, the repair was under warranty, but now, at 55K, I'm not sure if the repair will be covered. I caught it when I took it in for an oil change at Mr. Tire, and they advised me the break on the driver's side was starting to affect the rotor and ... Read More
2011 Hyundai Sonata
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Sonata YF / i40 to european market.
Posted this in hyundai-forums.com, but got no usefull replies: Just got my sonata 09 totaled in a crash front and back... No personel damages at all. I'm considering if i should wait to get the new YF, i40. Or buy a second hand right now (takes 3-4 months to get a new from Korea) I get misleading information on when it arrives here in europe (Denmark). Posts and blogs said it ... Read More
Sonata vs Optima
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Re: Sonata vs Optima [lhy]
looks like the 2004 Sonata is a little larger than Optima, Sonata is a tad longer, and interior is a little bigger. The engine I4 2.4L 138 HP or the same on both cars, EPA mpg is the same also. If you would like, their is a website you can go to and check them out. Go to Google.com and put in search line. 2004 sonata side by side comparison, then ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Brakes
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Re: 2007 Sonata rear brake issue [haidong]
Why so much interest "to stay Hyundai board" ?? Yes, I owned Hyundai....I happen to have had two Hyundai products personally (2003, 2004 Santa Fe), my son had a 2000 Elantra that when sold had 193,000 miles with no significant problems, my daughter still owns a 2003 Elantra GT. I happen to like Hyundai and plan to buy a 2010 Sonata hybrid (if they release it for 2010) trading in a ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Maintenance and Repair
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Re: Parts question [jnichols1]
The 2003, 2004, and 2005 models were almost identical; very, very few changes were made between those years (and as an owner of a 2003 (and a 2009), I can't tell the difference visually between the models). Changes between a 2002 and a 2003 were slightly more significant, as there was a major facelift in 2003; 2005 was a "short run" ala the way the 2010 model will be, where the ... Read More
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Re: 2004 SONATA 2.4-ELECTRICAL ISSUES ^OO^ [joe_momma_foo]
I am not a mechanic, but we now own a 2009 SE V6 w/5at, this may or may not be a answer to your problem, but if your car has the auto trans I would get them to check it next. For quite a few years now most auto trans or electronically controlled not like older types that have actual linkage to the transmission. I don't think engine monitoring system detects ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Subframe Rust
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Re: 2000 Sonata Sub Frame Rust [mark327]
There's a recall that is "officially" for 2001-2004 Sonatas for the subframe. But interestingly, this recall shows up when you do a search on recalls for 1999 and 2000 Sonatas also. So I am wondering if Hyundai might honor the recall for your car? The NHTSA recall ID is 09V124000. You can either find details at the NHTSA site or at sites like Edmunds.com (look up the 2000 Sonata in the ... Read More
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Re: 2000 Sonata Sub Frame Rust [mark327]
mark327: All Hyundais, purchased new, come with a 7year/unlimited miles anti-perforation warranty. The following is from HyundaiUSA.com: Covers 7 years unlimited miles starting with 2005 Model Year (previously 5 year/100,00 Miles for 2004 and prior model years). Covers perforation (rust hole through the body panel from inside to outside) corrosion of original Hyundai body sheet metal due to defects in material or factory workmanship, under normal use and maintenance. Excludes surface ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Audio Questions
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Re: What type of ipod/generation? [bonybynatur]
bonybynatur: I went on the Hyundai Accessory store website and found this information for you: Will work in the following 2009 vehicles: Elantra Touring Sonata Azera (non-navigation units) Entourage Santa Fe Veracruz (non-navigation units) Genesis Works with the following iPod models: - It is compatible with late model iPod products produced Irons mid-2004 on (4th Generations iPods, all Nanos, etc) - This would include most iPod devices with the smooth front ... Read More
Sonata vs Optima
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Sonata vs Optima
Is the 2004 Hyundai Sonata the same car as a 2004 Kia Optima? I am looking at buying a used car and possibly choosing between the two. All things being equal, is one model preferable over the other? How reliable are the transmissions and engines on these vehicles? (I have heard that the timing belts tend to wear out quickly) Is the V6 engine better than the 4-cylinder 2.4L engine?
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Re: 100k/Lifetime Powertrain Warranties not Transferrable [jeffyscott]
Yep. For a few years, Hyundai allowed the powertrain warranty to transfer within a family, but they stopped doing that in (I think) 2003. So I simply retain the title to my 2004 Hyundai while my son uses up its 10 year powertrain warranty. :) It's kind of funny I think that you can buy a used car (i.e. a certified used car) that has more manufacturer warranty than a new ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Maintenance and Repair
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Re: Is the clutch covered under the warrranty? [oskidunker1]
I have a 2004 Sonata manual transmission. The clutch is not covered and it is bad. I had to replace my first one at 45,000 miles. Hyundai paid for the flywheel, $1,500. I paid $1,200. They have a 'dual-mass' flywheel that cannot be turned, it must be replaced. That clutch went out at 87,000 miles and I was stuck with the whole $3,000 repair bill. I will not have that car ... Read More
2011 Hyundai Sonata
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Re: 2010 Hyundai Sonata [bhmr59]
Last year the 2009 was out in March--I remember seeing them at the Twin Cities Auto Show in early March 2008 and at dealers shortly after that. So I expect the 2010 to be unveiled any day now. I don't think this is it. The blog entry said "third quarter next year for South Korea." If true, then I wouldn't expect to see it here until late next year at the ... Read More
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Re: Sonata [cannon3]
Fact is the only thing the Accord/Camry has over the Hyundai is resale value. Pretty strong opinion there, which is good; but it's not a "fact" as you call it. Driving dynamics, powerplants, and the overall driving experience is pretty different from car to car, so to say the Sonata is just "better" really doesn't fly. To me, the Sonata was a little boring to drive, but had a more compliant ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Maintenance and Repair
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Re: 2004 Sonata: [homer14]
A few thoughts on this....if you replaced just the bulbs, well, they have key ways so the can be properly installed in only one way. The key ways are in the form of three tabs extending from the base of each bulb. These tabs correspond to key holes in the headlight assembly itself. The bulb can only be installed if each tab lines up to the proper "key-way" The spacing and ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Start Up Noise
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Re: Start up noise [drgnass]
I bought my 2004 Sonata 6 cylinder in 2005 brand new. I had several problems from whinning in the steering wheel which I ended up taking to a private mechanic to fix after five times taking it to the dealship. Now I have the start up noise. This is "not normal" as the car would have done it when I bought it. The dealerships have a standard statement, "It's normal" BS. ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Transmission Problems
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Transmission issue
I recently bought a 2004 Hyundai Sonata with 18,000 miles on it. 5 speed manual. Started having problems with the gears "sticking" - I couldn't get it into the lower gears and sometimes can't get it out of gear at all. I've brought it back to the dealer 3 times. First they replaced the Master Cylinder, then they thought maybe it just needed "bleeding", then now they've just replaced the Slave ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: I4 in short supply in the MidSouth? [aalsherri]
Since the current Sonata was actually released in the ROK in late 2004, and they don't say in the blog whether the 2010 release of the next Sonata is for the ROK or worldwide, it's possible it could come out in 2010--somewhere. In the U.S.? We'll see. Maybe Hyundai will get more agressive with their product releases. Lately, they've been sticking to a six-year cycle and making minimal mid-cycle changes, with ... Read More
2009-2010 Hyundai Sonata
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Re: Hyundai 2009 Sonata Break-In Period CONFLICT with Auto Transmission [so [moocow1]
The difference in gas mileage between 55 to 70 isn't really that much for most cars with decent aerodynamics. I have to disagree with that as a general statement. My 2004 Elantra AT is quite aerodynamic for a compact car. There is a significant difference in mpg at 55 vs. 70. At 55, the engine is loafing at around 2000 RPMs, and can easily get near 40 mpg on level ground ... Read More
Honda Civic vs. Hyundai Sonata
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Re: oh, i forgot [lengalli]
You've never owned a Hyundai, have you? I've owned two--a 2001 Elantra that is now nearly 8 years old, and a 2004 Elantra. The 2001 is owned by my sister now. She loves it and says it still drives and looks like new. And it has been very reliable. My 2004 Elantra also drives and looks new, and the biggest problem it's had in over 4 years is that I had ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: Price Calculation [moparbad]
I can't comment on the above math. I know I'll sound like a broken record but- here in Connecticut- when we went shopping for a sonata lx in 2004 at key hyundai- they said they couldn't touch the carsdirect price. We drove down to new rochelle. They are out of business now- but they sold us with rebates and loyalty a '04xg 350 L for under what key would sell us ... Read More
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Re: 2006 Hyundai Sonata [aviboy97]
Honda and Toyota are two of the best proven vehicles on the road, no question. Having owned both Honda and Toyota that have had numerous repairs, my 91 Honda Accord 2 starter coils fail and a part in the auto tranny that makes the tranny shift, I forgot what it was called, failed all before 100K. MY 1991 Toyota Celica started blowing blue smoke at 120K, and I replaced the drive ... Read More
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Re: 2006 Hyundai Sonata [andres3]
So if you buy Toyota's and Honda's, I'd say they are NEVER worthless if kept in good shape. People know they are bulletproof to about 300K if maintained properly Honda and Toyota are two of the best proven vehicles on the road, no question. Having owned both Honda and Toyota that have had numerous repairs, my 91 Honda Accord 2 starter coils fail and a part in the auto tranny that ... Read More
Nissan Altima vs Hyundai Sonata
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Altima vs. Sonata
Hey Starryknight, I own a 2004 Elantra Hatch and I love this car! It's not the most beautiful/stylish or sporty car out there, but for the price and practicality purposes, it's the best car I've ever owned! I do a lot of city driving which i hate and I've accumulated 65,000 miles on it already. However, I've never had it in for repairs and the dealer is so great to deal ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Maintenance and Repair
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Headlight
I need instructions on how to replace a headlight in a 2004 Hyundai Sonata tried on my own and couldn't figure it out. any help would be appreciated.
Hyundai Sonata Climate Control Questions
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2004 SONATA LX
We love our 2004 Sonata LX and have many upgrades including AUTO heating and cooling. Bought in winter of 2003. Could not get heat, so back to the dealer - nothing wrong. Each September since take long trip. Gets cold, cannot get heat unless we put it way up past 75 degrees. Each year into dealer with complaint. Stupid people, nothing wrong!!!!! Do they drive our car? Driving through mountain pass ... Read More
2008 Hyundai Sonata
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Re: 2008 Hyudai Sonata Interior Update [jaxs1]
I think it makes sense that Hyundai will use the same interior style for both markets, to keep manufacturing costs down--just like they have done since the current Sonata debuted in late 2004. But we'll see for sure in a few months.
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Re: What so special about these "top rated" cars? [colloquor]
I don't know if Kia in general is the "Beta tester" for new designs and derivatives. For example: * Gen 3 Sonata used its platform several years before the Optima got it. * Elantra got the tweaked Beta II (with better fuel economy) before the Spectra. * Sonata (and all other Hyundais) got XM radio before Kia. * Sonata got active rear suspension (not yet available in the U.S.) before any ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata vs Honda Accord
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Re: Let's compare fairly [robertsmx]
If someone wants to stay in their "comfort zone" and stick to one brand, or one model, that's their choice. The downside of that approach is that it doesn't account for the major changes that are taking place in the automotive world. Who would have thought a few years ago that a Hyundai would be seen by many people, including the consensus automotive press, as strong competition for the Accord? If ... Read More
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Re: Sonata facelift coming... [joe97]
I think this list of improvements coming this March in the Sonata is pretty interesting wrt this discussion (asuming it holds up for the U.S. market): *Azera lookin front end *Horsepower increase for both 4cyl and V6 *Improved fuel economy for both engines *5 speed auto trans for 4cyl *Blue background dashboard lights *Improved handling and ride *Specific sport handling for SE model *Redone interior featuring, more storage,better finish,less plastic looking ... Read More
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Re: Hyundai IS an influence on Honda! [maxamillion1]
Some facts to consider: U.S. Sonata sales in 2004 (last year for prior generation): 104,000 U.S. sales of current-generation Sonata (started selling in April 2005) as of 10/31/05: 109,512 (about 7 months' sales) U.S. sales for Sonata in February 2005 (right before current generation debuted): 9,762 (58% increase over Feb 2004) U.S. sales for Sonata in February 2006 (current generation): 13,741 (41% increase over Feb 2005) U.S. sales for Sonata in ... Read More
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Re: Accord following the Sonata [backy]
You tell em backy did you also know the the 1999 Hyundai Sonata has passenger presence detector before the accord offered it in 2004,it disables the passenger airbags when no occupant is in the seat,even though ABS was optional it was still $3,000 or more cheaper than the Accord.
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Re: take your pick! [robertsmx]
Honda’s product growth was based on success, with emphasis on quality over quantity. Sales followed. Most small companies tend to offer too many products in too little time, instead of focusing on core products. Honda’s approach was the opposite. It looks to me like Hyundai is emulating Honda. They started with one model, the Excel. They added their second model, the Sonata, four years later. Then their third, the Elantra, after ... Read More
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Re: take your pick! [backy]
One thing I noticed on the 2008 Accord is that it has inside door pulls that look very much like the 2008 Sonata's--a faux aluminum finish. I have not seen the Accord in person yet but speaking of door pulls... 2008 Accord 2004+ TL And this is 2006+ Civic I'm now wondering which car inspired Hyundai for that finish to the door pull. :D PS. Chrome door pull was an Accord ... Read More
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Re: Five Points Plus, A Couple of Minuses: A Tall Order [targettuning]
I don't think he was talking about a current Sonata, but instead a late model one, that had the 2.7. Here is an Edmunds take on that engine, from the 2003-2004 Midsize Comparison test. The Hyundai offers a mostly tepid driving experience. Its 2.7-liter V6 is rated for 170 horsepower and 181 pound-feet of torque, and it was about as fast as the Passat in instrumented acceleration testing. Out on public ... Read More
Nissan Altima vs Hyundai Sonata
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Re: 07 Altima 4 cyl vs 07/08 Sonata 6 cyl [jd10013]
Management determines the success of any business. Don't matter what is said, responsible/successful management always pokes its head in every aspect of its business, whether it is supply chain/engineering for cost containment, finance, etc. I am not saying that all Nissan cars are bad. Our 2006 Maxima SL, one of 5 in the family, is holding up very well. Our 2004 Honda Ody just became 3 yrs old and is holding ... Read More
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Re: Alt vs, Sonata [caaz]
The best warranty is one that you never use! My wife's 2004 Honda Ody became 3 yrs recently and it never had to go back to the dealer for any repairs of any kind. I have been doing my own PM (engine/tranny oil, brakes, etc) as well as unscheduled repairs on all my cars for the past 35 yrs as a matter of personal interest and aptitude. We have 5 cars ... Read More
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Re: 07 Altima 4 cyl vs 07/08 Sonata 6 cyl [starryknight]
I prefer Hyundai Sonata. Here's the reason: I have owned 2000 Nissan Altima GXE 2.4 since 2004(I bought used one). Its advantage is on its powerful engine. Great acceleration. Good window angle. Easy drive. I felt Camry is harder to drive. Huge disadvantage is on its maintenance. Fristly, my Altima had serious rough idle. Most of mechanics couldn't find the reason. I think its computer scan code was P0407 - 4th ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: Jus bought a used Sonata 2004 [shakirhyd]
Verify whether the car has a 5-year bumper-to-bumper warranty, or (more likely) the remainder of the Hyundai factory warranty. If so it would have 32,000 miles of warranty left, or five years after the original in-service date, whichever comes first. If the car has its original manuals, they include a recommended service schedule. The next major service coming up is 30000 miles. You'll want to be sure to perform the Hyundai-recommended ... Read More
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Jus bought a used Sonata 2004
Hi, I just bought a 2004 Sonata GLS V6 for $9500 in CA. It had just 28000 miles on it. Do you think it's a fair deal? Also, any pointers on the maintenance front would be really helpful. Also suggest if there are anything specific, that I need to use (Specific Oil) etc. The seller also tells me this has got 5 year bumper to bumper warranty. Is Hyundai's warranty really ... Read More
Midsize Sedans 2.0
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Re: Most popular [goodegg]
"I'm anxious to see how the Sonata ages with say, 85,000 miles on it. If this new generation car passes that long term test, I think you'll see more and more Sonatas on the road." "That's what will sell me at least. Car's just coming out (Sonata, Fusion) and getting these great initial reviews, when everybody knows its what happens in years 5+ that define the car. Camcords have passed that ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Owners Meet the Members
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Re: After market stuff [jollyprince]
The 2004 Sonata has a standard-size radio box, so replacing the radio with a good aftermarket unit should be pretty easy, and not too expensive (plus you can upgrade to satellite, aux input etc.). Not sure what you mean by automatic headlights, but I thought the 2004 Sonata had auto on/off headlights (i.e. leave the switch On, and the lights turn off when you shut down the engine and take the ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Maintenance and Repair
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Re: Angry owner of 05 Sonata GL VIBRATIONS!!!! [slm1]
Having idle problem, vibration, and noise (vehicle sounds like a diesel) with my 2004 Hyundai Sonata with 50,000 milies. Problem arose about 6 weeks+ ago and I've been told by dealer and Hyudai Consumer Affairs that this is normal. Problem appears to be getting worse. Have brought it back to dealer twice. Replaced engine belts......no help; changed to lighter grade oil........no help. It's now being recommended I change timing belt??? Oil ... Read More
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Re: Angry owner of 05 Sonata GL VIBRATIONS!!!! [pruoff]
Having idle problem, vibration, and noise (vehicle sounds like a diesel) with my 2004 Hyundai Sonata with 50,000 milies. Problem arose about 6 weeks+ ago and I've been told by dealer and Hyudai Consumer Affairs that this is normal. Problem appears to be getting worse. Have brought it back to dealer twice. Replaced engine belts......no help; changed to lighter grade oil........no help. It's now being recommended I change timing belt??? Oil ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata 2006-2007
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Re: Good news? [targettuning]
US Inventory Troubles Hyundai Motor http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/biz/200702/kt2007022618490011880.htm By Kim Yon-se Staff Reporter Hyundai Motor is selling cars at a clearance discount in the United States as its price competitiveness has weakened and inventory of its Santa Fe and Sonata models has piled up. Its inventory reached 171,000 units in January at its corporations and dealerships there, up 36 percent from 125,000 units a year before. The figure includes some 100,000 Sonatas produced ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Engine Questions
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Re: 2004 Sonata I4 Engine Vibration when in drive [jbhome]
Even with balance shafts (the Hyundai 2.4L I4 has two of 'em - counter-rotating), larger I4s exhibit more vibration at idle than their smaller cousins. (I'm assuming your Focus didn't have a 2.4L displacement motor.) At only 24K miles, it doesn't seem likely that there're any serious problems present. (But...) You might have a trusted mechanic take a look and advise you whether there's cause for concern. And, if he'll connect ... Read More
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2004 Sonata I4 Engine Vibration when in drive
I am looking at a 2004 Sonata with 41000Km/24000Mi. The car is immaculate but... When in drive and stopped, engine noise/body vibration is significant. I'm told they are all like this, however... My 2000 Ford Focus has similar problems which started several years into ownership and got worse. When cold, the dash vibrated, coins rattled in the cup holder. In 2006, I finally bit the bullet and replaced the engine mounts. ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Maintenance and Repair
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Re: '07 Sonata LX 3.3L engine noise [jacknzone]
The move to 5W-20 motor oils in the U.S. is largely driven by our EPA acting as a sanctioning body to "encourage" fuel economy gains - hence the adviseries about "dealing area", i.e. where the vehicle was purchased and placed into service. "Down Under" may not be so government mandated yet as the States are, and, if that's the case, using 5W-30 or 10W-30 may alleviate the noise at the cost ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Owners Meet the Members
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Re: Hello and Welcome! [KarenS]
Hi KarenS Good to see Sonata Club, My name is John Live in New Zealand and love my Hyundai Sonata 2004 . In 2003 could not afford a new Sonata so had to wait for a used on to come up for sale As they were not a big seller over here , but Hyundai is making head way now . Now I am a happy owner of a 2004 GLS ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Real World MPG
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Re: Hyundai Sonata Owners: MPG-Real World Numbers [audiogirl]
i just got a 2004 hyundai sonata v6 2.7L and my gas mileage is like absurd. Around 12 miles/galon local and I haven't tested on the highway yet. So is there possibly some problem?
Midsize Sedans Comparison Thread
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Re: 2007 Fusion SE vs 2007 Sonata GLS [backy]
I have owned 4 Hondas....Civic, Accord, Pilot and know an Odyssey. I have always had the best of luck with all of them. My 2004 Accord was a wonderful car and I may still have it if I didnt more room. The car was put together wonderfully,drove well and had a wonderful ride. Hondas reputation stood up well. Hyundai on the other hand doesnt have the reputation of Honda and it ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Owners Meet the Members
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Hi and AM reception
Hi, I'm DooDa Dave and I traded in a 2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback Ralliart on a 2006 Sonata GLS 4 cyl, on 6/30. I wanted a bigger, quieter, safer and more comfortable care that got as good or better gas mileage as the Lancer Ralliart. Got a good deal on a leftover as 07's were already on the lot and the gorgeous '07 Santa Fe arrived while I was at the ... Read More
Midsize Sedans Comparison Thread
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Re: A few points [mfletou1]
Well yes & no. The Accord and Camry do have very smooth i4 engines, and may be more than adequate for most needs. And in some cases, the prefered engine. Many of use recall the era when a V8 had less HP than the current i4 engines. The i4 has come a long way. Of course the V6 and V8 are now more powerful as well, to fill that need for ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Maintenance and Repair
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Re: Transmission Shifting on V6 [bobad]
bodad: I posted this info in another forum possibly it may help you. This site has been most helpful to me as I have tried to get back into automobile purchases after 14 years. So let me see if I can help some of you folks. I don't know if this information will be helpful are not, but possibly it may. I purchased a 2006 Hyundai Sonata I4 automatic transmission this ... Read More
Midsize Sedans Comparison Thread
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Re: why altima, fusion, impala get no respect [elroy5]
Well, it was a really, really bad car. At a time when other Asian automakers were already good and the bar had been set. No such bar in the '70s when Honda and Toyota got their start. Yes, it will take more than one car to build Hyundai's reputation. Like the pre-'06 Sonata (Gen 3 was not a bad car, just not a great car); Accent (starting in '95, a really ... Read More
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Re: The Hyundai Temple of Worship [elroy5]
Proven track record, lets see, my sister has a 2002 4Runner and 2003 Tundra, both of which have left her stranded in the middle of nowhere, both had major trans problems one covered under warranty the other cost her $3k. Now that's proven relaiability. Have 2 friends with 2002 V6 Sonata's both over 100K miles and both have never been in the shop other than for maintenance. I owned a 2001 ... Read More
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Re: Hyundai club [wolverinejoe80]
The bodykit Sonata is beautiful; however, what wolverine failed to mention is that bodykit, grill, lowering springs, etc. by Studie (a customizer on the same level as Brabus) is about as expensive as buying another Sonata. Over on cardomain there are hundrends of customized Accords and Accord customization is far cheaper. It isn't fair to compare a customized car to a stock Accord in looks. There are custom Accords that blow ... Read More
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Re: News - Hyundai Azera Top-Ranked Car [backy]
"Performance? I know the Sonata V6 beats the Mazda6s there." here, yet again there is a difference in opinion. Performance and acceleration are two seperate but connected things. In acceleration the Sonata is better, but no one would say it is a better performer. When you talk performance, you talk slalom, steering feel, braking, acceleration, handling, etc. And the Mazda is a definitely better performer in those criteria. The bottom of ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Maintenance and Repair
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Re: Silver paint flaking [druid_medb]
I have a 2004 Hyundai Sonata (kind of a greenish-blue color) that is beginning to get the chipping paint on the door handles also. So it doesn't look like Hyundai has perfected the problem. A co-worker of mine has the silver Sonata just like yours and his door handles are almost completely down to the primer. I'm just hoping that mine won't look like that a few years down the road. ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata 2006-2007
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Re: "Re think" everything Dan! [johnap2]
Hyundai would probably solve the SUSPENSION problem, which has been a real and consistent complaint of the V6 owners (somehow I4 cars don't seem to have that problem)... Also, they should upgrade the Audio-Control on the steering wheel, another complaint of too many Sonata owners... Otherwise, no, it wouldn't make any LOGICAL SENSE to already change the sheet metal of a one year old design (even though the car has been ... Read More
Midsize Sedans Comparison Thread
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Re: elroy5 [alpha01]
All of those standard safety features (ABS w/EBD ESC, TCS, six aribags, dual head restraints), even on the base version of the Sonata is a deal killer and a great move by Hyundai; plus the unbeatable warranty, and high reliablity/quality marks makes this a great deal. JD Power and CR have constantly ranked high on the Sonata (CR - most reliable car - 2005 edition; JD Power - top finishes in ... Read More
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interesting article about the Fusion
from auto week:link title The Fusion tackled our tight little slalom with aplomb, where we found it extremely easy to drive quickly through the cones even though the driver has no control over gear selection. As long as we kept some throttle on to avoid scrubbing off too much speed, the tires responded quickly enough. “Surprising for a car in this price class,” commented one tester. “I’m able to put it ... Read More
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link to "sonata warning signs surface"
here's the link link title the original article was from Automotive News and included a graph of monthly incentives was offered on the Sonata which is included at the bottom of the article copied below. Last year, Hyundai Motor America touted the redesigned 2006 Sonata as capable of taking on the Toyota Camry and Honda Accord. Part of that was bringing its sales volume into the big leagues of 150,000 units ... Read More
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Re: maxamillion1 [choe13]
who cares about edmunds for a second. Just look at the pics above. Which interior looks to have a tighter build quality in your opinion?? Um, Camry, Accord (my Accord's pic above), Altima, Sonata. I've experienced the Accord and Sonata firsthand, as well as the outgoing Camry, and the outgoing Altima felt better screwed together when turning knobs and such (I remember the fan speed knob) than did the Sonata, but ... Read More
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Bizarro World? Apparently, we're living in it...[bobad]
"On Bizarro world, a feature somehow equates to years. Because Hyundai chose not to offer NAV in the Sonata this year (it's available in Europe, so Hyundai is not technologically challenged) , the fantastic engine, suspension, body, and value are somehow irrelevant. Well I'm not buying his argument or yours. " Ok, you're not listening to MY argument, which is pretty different from how you interpreted it. You aren't buying the ... Read More
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Re: 4-5 years behind ? [choe13]
choe said: in korea this car has navigation(will be avail soon) , it will have std xm radio by next year. If we are talking about future cars, why not say that the Altima "will be" better in its interior soon, and the new Accord is due out late next year, so talking about the current one doesn't count and isn't fair, because it WILL have it. This is basically the ... Read More
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Re: kdspyder [choe13]
VSC is an option on all models except the hybrid. You don't have to buy it if your interest is to push the vehicle to it's limits. In this regard a professional driver or one who is very much better than you or I likely can make the V6 SE or V6 XLE do things the Sonata or Azera could never do. The standard models will never intrude on a professional ... Read More
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RE: Midsize Car
All of this Hyyundai versus Toyota stuff is pretty interesting. It just goes to show that Hyundai has really advanced in the marketplace considering where they were a decade, or even five years ago. Yet, suspension and interior of the Hyundai are clearly inferior to the Cam/Cord. This was noted when the new Sonata came out. I do beleive that the Sonata is the most improved vehicle in the very competitive ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata 2006-2007
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Re: 3rd. place in Edmunds comparo [backy]
Maybe I am reading your post wrong, but the Sonata did not debut in 2004. The Sonata debuted in 1989 with redesigns in 1993, 1995, 1998, 2000, 2004, and 2006 with the 7th style. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Sonata
Midsize Sedans Comparison Thread
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Re: Funny test [kdhspyder]
At $27K with all kinds of new gadgetry and sophisticated features that's quite a lot more risk to ask of a buyer on product just emerging from a bad rap. In 5-10 years very possibly. Sometimes I don't know if you are serious or not. "New gagetry"? Hyundai has been offering factory nav systems on even their compact cars in other countries for years. The trick suspension on the Sonata has ... Read More
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Re: I can still remember [jhinsc]
Edmunds.com's long term test of the 2003 Accord returned an average mpg of 24.1 mpg during the entire test, while the Sonata LX has averaged 21.3 mpg over its first two months. (Edmunds hasn't done a long-term test of the Camry since 1997.) Two things about these numbers: * Hyundais are well-known for their engines loosening up and returning better fuel economy as they add miles. I have noticed this on ... Read More
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Hyundai 1998, Hyundai 2006
Taming a predisposition takes time. People see what they wanna see. Most people, when speaking of Hyundai, are speaking from a paradigm that is based on previous information, a bad experience and resulting personal perspective. It is very normal for the reality of a company and their product to be ahead of the market perception of that company and product. That is why Hyundai is spending nearly $700 million on advertisinig ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata 2006-2007
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Re: For the Hyundai Company Officials and Sonata Engineers [tb88]
My 2003 Sonata LX has folding mirrors that are heated. My 2004 Mountaineer has folding mirrors that are heated. Folding mirrors has no effect on whether they can be heated.
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Re: IIHS results [backy]
If you wanted to write that the Passat and Accord are safer cars than the Sonata you could have. You very clearly wrote that VW and Honda are more concerned about safety than Hyundai. Again I think that is an unfair generalization. Also the models I am knocking are not so old(2003 and 2004). Again I don't think you are holding everyone to the same standard here. No where did I ... Read More
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Re: IIHS results [backy]
I think this over simplifies things. Crash tests results are only part of the decision, avoiding a crash (e.g. ESC) also ranks high on my list. The Malibu was a top safety pick but without stability control it doesn't make my list.I would still rather avoid an accident than take my chances in a crash , no matter how well the car rates in IIHS testing. I took more exception to ... Read More
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Re: IIHS results [cjlars]
the Accord got a "poor" as recently as 2004. Actually, the current Accord comes with standard side curtain/side airbags. The Accord equipped with side airbags had a "good" rating. Once again, did Honda's commitment to safety just start with this year's Civic? Honda has always been quite good with safety since the Accord came out. They've never been on top until the new Civic's scores came out. With the new Civic's ... Read More
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Re: Secret of Sonata Pricing: Ripping Off Korean Customers [era174]
I'm a Korean living in Korea. I see your points. You're right we have to pay more for a lot less. I know the prices in both Korean and American markets. Although I must admit that I hate to pay more for less, that's how the market works. The Korean auto market is not fully opened to competition yet, but it may be so after the FTA talks with the US ... Read More
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Re: IIHS results [backy]
As for implying that Honda and VW would never bring out a vehicle which tested less than "goods" across the board, I don't see that anyone here implied that. "it looks like Honda and VW are more concerned with safety than Hyundai" was your quote from an earlier post. I'm not sure of the implication here but it seemed to me that you were implying that because the Sonata did not ... Read More
Midsize Sedans Comparison Thread
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Re: Consumers will make the choice [cxc]
What if you buy a car at a decent price which has a decent resale value? I think that equals Best of Both Worlds. I bought my Mazda6 at a steal from a dealer that was trying to get rid of the old model year and make room for the new one. So basically I got a 2004 at the end of 2004 for a steal. The dealer soaked up a ... Read More
Hyundai Sonata Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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$1000.00 Owner Loyalty Rebate REJECTED!!
Anyone ever heard of this before??? Just got word that Hyundai rejected our Owner Loyalty rebate because it had already been paid on our 2004 Sonata within the last year. We purchased the 2004 Sonata "used" in September 05 from a Hyundai dealership. The previous owner apparently traded it in on a new Hyundai and received an Owner Loyalty rebate. How were we supposed to know this? And should it affect ... Read More
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