December 28, 2009
The more TPMS warnings in get in various cars, the more I'm thankful that this feature is now standard in every new car. I got a low-pressure warning in our Hyundai Genesis a few mornings ago for the left-rear tire. My wife had taken the Genesis shopping the day before; did she drive over some road debris?
The Genesis doesn't display the actual pressure, so I had to manually check the tire's actual pressure with a gauge. Thankfully, it was only a little low compared to the other tires, and I didn't see any screws or punctures during a visual inspection. So maybe the cold morning temperature dropped the tire's pressure enough to trip the TPMS. I filled the tire back to spec at a nearby gas station and have been keeping an eye on it. So far, no more warnings.
Brent Romans, Senior Automotive Editor @ 22,645 miles
December 24, 2009
Like we've said in multiple past posts, our long-term 2009 Hyundai Genesis is a great highway cruiser thanks to its quiet interior, comfortable ride quality and solid V6 power. Yesterday I drove about five hours and 300 miles with my wife and two-year-old daughter to kick off our holiday break; the Genesis performed admirably. And even though we've complained about the latency in "real-time" traffic updates on navigation systems, I'll still take having the updates rather than none at all -- they helped me navigate though some of Los Angeles' slowest freeways.
I also packed the Genesis full of travel and holiday stuff -- you can fit a lot in a big sedan if you get creative, though I'd need something bigger (like the Flex) if we had another child. Even so, I'm quite pleased to have our Genesis over the holidays.
Brent Romans, Senior Automotive Editor
December 09, 2009
A day without a tire-pressure warning is like a day without sunshine. At least for me lately.
Actually, with this week's weather in Southern California I've seen more tire pressure warnings than sunshine. The most recent came courtesy of our long-term 2009 Hyundai Genesis yesterday morning. I was up early and probably a good mile from the house before I looked down and noticed the "Low Tire Pressure!" message in the Hyundai's information screen.
After a few colorful phrases I looked closely and saw that both rear tires were flashing in the icon.
Even with my recent tire luck it was hard to believe both rear tires were dameaged and losing air. More likely the cold (for Southern California) temps had bunched all the atoms in the tire's air together, reducing psi and setting off the Hyundai's Tire Pressure Warning System.
I pulled into a gas station and confirmed both rear tires at 28 psi. This was after driving for a couple miles, so they were already hot and no doubt holding more pressure than when I first started the Genesis at my house. I'd guess the cold pressure was probably closer to 24-25 psi. The sticker in the door jam calls for 33 psi. I pumped both rear tires up to an indicated 36 psi to account for the heat-induced pressure in the reading (we all know you should check psi levels when tires are cold, right?).
The warning light went out almost immediately and hasn't returned after 24 hours, but it raises a good point. Most TPMS won't trigger unless a car's tire(s) is at least 5 or more psi low. It took some rare mid-30s temperatures to reach this trigger level, but the Genesis' tires were clearly low before the cold snap hit; likely around 26-28 psi when the ambient temperature was a more L.A.-typical 55-70 degrees. Still far below the recommended level, but not enough to set off lights and bells inside the car.
Check your tire pressures regularly people. Thank you.
Karl Brauer, Edmunds.com Editor in Chief @ 21,445 miles
November 04, 2009
When I got into the Genesis last night and fired it up to go pick up my preschooler, I pushed the radio knob once to turn on the radio, but all that greeted me was silence. The nav screen indicated that the radio was, indeed, on, but there was nothing coming out of the speakers. Even if I turned the volume knob all the way up (see picture above), nuthin. I switched around from satellite to FM to AM, and still bupkis. I turned the radio off and then back on again. Zilch. I searched for a "mute" button that I may have inadvertently pushed. Nope; there isn't one. While at a stoplight, I even pulled out the manual to see if there was a troubleshooting section for "If your radio is silent," but I couldn't find one before the light turned green.
After I got to the kid's preschool and cinched her in her car seat, I started the car up again and the radio instantly came to life, like nothing had ever happened. Sounds like one of Dan Edmunds' "reboot" situations that we've seen with other cars? Everything was fine when I started it up this morning, too.
Bryn MacKinnon, Senior Editor, Edmunds.com
October 20, 2009
I rarely get to drive our 2009 Hyundai Genesis so every time I get into it it feels like the first time. So pardon me if I'm saying something that's already been covered before. But last night when I first opened its doors and those bright LEDs lit up, I couldn't help but exclaim, "Wowwww!" It's so luxurious...and it's a Hyundai!
This is definitely a lonnng way from the Hyundai Excel I used to own back in the day. Now it has interior materials that look and feel high-quality. Features like a power tilt-telescoping steering wheel, cooled/heated driver seat, XM radio and Bluetooth, too?
I had never really quite recovered from my ol' Excel even though Hyundai had improved its products awhile ago and I've jumped in several Hyundais since then. And, I know a beater hatchback and a loaded sedan are vastly different, but I would never have recommended Hyundai before now. Actually my dad is looking for a new sedan. I think he'd really love this one.
Caroline Pardilla, Deputy Managing Editor @ 18,202 miles
October 09, 2009
The layout of the Genesis' display screen has always struck me as being a bit counterintuitive, at least as far as it relates to the radio and HVAC.
Instead of having it be an afterthought at the bottom of the page, I'd rather have the song title be where the "Category" info currently is.
And I'd really like for there to be a full-screen display showing HVAC settings when the climate control is being adjusted. As it stands right now, all you get is is a narrow bar at the top of the screen (shown above) -- as it's presented, the info is kinda hard to read when you're driving.
But these are minor gripes concerning an otherwise pretty stellar car.
Warren Clarke, Automotive Content Editor
September 25, 2009
Dan Edmunds has ranted in this space about the pain of not having music from an iPod pause when a call comes in over a car's Bluetooth system. Add the 2009 Hyundai Genesis to the list of offenders.
Driving back from the desert yesterday while listening to Wilco's killer new album on my iPod, a call came in. And when it ended I found I'd missed out on a few minutes of music. No big deal, since I could just go back to the track I was on.
But when another call came in I found that there isn't a quick and easy way to pause the music. While the steering-wheel controls allow skipping forward and back, there's no pause button. If you do want to pause the music, you have to go deeper into the iPod menu, as shown above. (The previous menu is pictured below.)
A minor gripe, but as in yesterday's (positive) post on the ease of pairing a phone with the Bluetooth system in the Genesis, these little things add up to whether owning and operating a car is enjoyable over the long term.
Doug Newcomb, Senior Editor, Technology, Edmunds.com
September 24, 2009
Jumping from car to car, we pair our phones with a lot of Bluetooth systems. Some are simple while others are simply a pain. Leaving the office yesterday, it was a piece of cake to sync my BlackBerry with the Bluetooth system in the 2009 Hyundai Genesis. And I discovered a feature I wish others had.
The in-dash display showed me exactly how much time I had before the pairing process timed out: a full two minutes. Compared to other systems that give you no indication of how much time you have to pair a phone -- and, even worse, give you very little time to complete the process before having to completely start over -- it's a small convenience that's a huge help.
It shows that sometimes it's the small stuff that counts -- and why the Genesis gives more expensive luxury sedans a run for their money.
Doug Newcomb, Senior Editor, Technology, Edmunds.com
September 10, 2009
I know, I know. If this were my car, I'd know which way to rotate the knob to zoom in on a map, but there doesn't seem to be an industry standard on what happens to screens, menus, or lists in the clockwise or counter-clockwise direction. No matter what vehicle I'm in, it seems I always rotate first in the wrong direction before I get it right.
August 27, 2009
The girlfriend and I decided to hit Las Vegas for a quick, 24-hour get-away from L.A. And no, we didn't get married. Having heard that the Genesis was a great road trip car and not yet having any substantial seat time in it, the Hyundai was requested.
During the ride back the Genesis hit 15,000 miles, but I must confess I had the display on the tripmeter function (the "ODO" display only shows either total miles or trip miles) and realized it after I arrived back in L.A., hence the 15,268 miles shown. I gave the Genesis a belated happy anniversary card and a bath at the car wash, so we're copasetic now.
Follow the jump for my random observations of the Genesis, as well as how to count cards like Rainman and win big in Sin City.
August 12, 2009
Devils gate is a rock formation carved by the Sweetwater River about 60 miles Southwest of Casper, Wyoming. This is the least impressive view (the gorge is about 300 feet deep), but it's about as good as one can do and still get a car in the shot.
More sightseeing issues after the jump.
July 20, 2009
I drove up to see a friend in Valencia, California, yesterday in our long-term 2009 Hyundai Genesis sedan. The car's outside temperature gauge told me it was 106. I started using the ventilated seat as soon as I hit the San Fernando Valley, and it worked quite well.
When I picked up my friend, I enthusiastically directed him to turn on the ventilation for the front-passenger seat as well... and then, I realized our Genesis doesn't have that feature. In fact, no Genesis does. There's just a seat heater on that side.
A ventilated driver seat is part of the Technology Package that you can order for either a V6 or V8 Genesis (on our V6, it requires both the Premium and Premium Plus option groups).
I blasted the air-conditioning instead and that also works quite well in our Genesis.
Erin Riches, Senior Editor @ 10,965 miles
July 02, 2009
Our Hyundai Genesis' iDrive-like audio/nav controller is located right next to the front cupholders. Normally, this is just fine. However, the close proximity of electronics to the cupholders could be a problem if you were to spill a beverage. Or, even better, you might bring in a bottle of soda, shake it up real good and then open it right above the front cupholders.
Who would be so foolish to do that? Well, me, it seems.
You might think I'm just making this up, but the only variance in this story was that it was a bottle of fancy "kombucha" tea, not soda. I had never had it before (just purchased on a whim during grocery shopping) and taken the unopened bottle into the car and was shaking it up before opening it. Who has ever heard of fizzy tea? I hadn't. But it seems the tea is cultured ("with enzymes + probiotics!'") and produces gas.
Just as would happen with soda, fizzy purple tea sprayed all over the front cupholders, the nav/audio controller, the driver seat and my shorts. I had a towel nearby, so thankfully I was able to sop up the spilled liquid pretty quickly. And the controller wheel still works normally, which is good. But a couple of the buttons, like the XM and DISC/AUX, have a sticky operation now.
The tea didn't even taste good, so the whole experience pretty much sucked. If anyone out there has an idea how to make our Genesis' buttons unsticky, please let me know.
June 29, 2009
Our 2009 Hyundai Genesis has an iPod interface. In theory, the car's iDrive-like navigation controller wheel makes iPod operation a breeze. Alas, the wheel is hampered by interface software in need of fine-tuning.
With the disclaimer that I've only had my my 30GB video iPod available for testing, I'll state that I've encountered two main problems. One, the system has an annoying delay when you try to page down on lists of artists or songs. It can take a very long time to get to the bottom of a list. The second issue is that the controller's "back" button doesn't work ideally. If you're scrolling down your list of artists, for instance, and you select one, backing out of that selection via the back button puts the highlight at the top of the artist list rather than where you originally were. So, if you were at "Lady GaGa" for instance, you're now back at the top to "ABBA." To get back to the "L" artists, you have to use the groggy page-down function again.
Having the interface is better than none at all (you still get battery charging, for instance), but this setup is the most aggravating I've encountered in some time.
June 15, 2009
Entering destinations into our long-term Hyundai Genesis' navi system is a breeze. Both street address and point-of-interest (POI, shown) destination are simple and straightforward. The only beef I have is that for street address input, you cannot enter the city before you enter the street and house number. I like to enter city first because it speeds things up when the system filters down to the street and house number. But this is not a big deal because this navi system processor is pretty fast. And destination entry is not locked out while the vehicle is in motion.
May 06, 2009
I'm in a rush to get somewhere, pretty much all the time. So on those occasions when I get to drive one of our long-termers, I don't usually have time to study the nuances of the car's functionality. Controls that aren't backlit properly, aren't where you expect them, or cryptic symbols drive me batty. I want adjustments to be straightforward: seat, mirrors, radio settings -- you know, the little things that make a car feel more like home.
And it's there where the Genesis started to impress me. As a chronic channel surfer, I liked that controls for volume up/down and radio station selection were all part of one button on the left of the wheel. Simple as it sounds, I also appreciated that the mirrors were controlled quite easily from one button on the armrest. (I don't enjoy mirror or window controls on the door or on the console between the front seats.) Ever been in a car and reach to lower the front window, only to lower the back window instead -- every time you do it? I have. None of this is an issue in the Genesis. Even the nav system was pretty straightforward.
The Genesis isn't trying to dazzle me with electronics that take a graduate degree to figure out. So despite the fact that Hyundai is going for the upscale market, it appears to be remembering its humble roots and not get all high-falutin' about it. It would be that much harder to take the Genesis seriously if it did.
Does this mean I'd buy the car? Maybe, but not necessarily. Sure, the leather seats are great (really!), the ride is super comfortable, the handling plenty sufficient for my gotta-get-there-now maneuvering. The thin, chrome trim around the vents is a nice touch and the paint is, well, sparkly. But there's nothing in the design -- inside or out -- that I found particularly inspiring or that blew me away with its luxury. It's a good car. It's a good value. Often, that's more than good enough.
April 03, 2009
Our loaded 2009 Hyundai Genesis is equipped with front and rear parking sensors.
I like parking sensors a lot and trust them more than back-up cameras.
With the back-up camera, the view is distorted and it's difficult to get a true sense of an object's range -- is that thing I might hit near? Or far?
The proper way to use the back-up camera is to first verify that there is nothing under your bumper (like sleeping children), then proceed to look out the backwindow. As pretty as it looks, you're not supposed to stare at the display screen during the reverse maneuver.
But with parking sensors, you just go about normal backing-up. And when you're about to nail something, you are warned -- then you FREEZE. Now you can check the display and re-check your surroundings.
The Genesis system has a nice display with 3 lines around the front or rear bumpers that appear then decrease to 3-2-1 lines as you get closer to your object of non-desire.
There is also an auditory alert that beeps with increasing frequency until it is constant-on, signaling impending doom.
It works great. That is, when it's On.
You see, the Genesis system is defeatable, as I unfortunately found out last weekend.
I didn't notice the sensors were off until afterwards. Apparently, another Edmunds staffer found the system annoying and defeated it with the switch near the driver's knee.
Yeah, the Genesis parking sensors (4 front, 4 rear) will alert on pedestrians too, but even still, I always like to have the system on. Just in case...
Here's the thing: drivers are not infallible. Whether they work at Edmunds or not.
And we care about our cars, just like you. Some of us operate in an urban jungle with a lot of hazards, driving many miles.
And like you -- we're human: we make mistakes, we are sometimes careless, we are sometimes tired, and we even "look but don't see".
So as long as we don't rely on parking sensors without regard to common sense, technologies like these can be helpful to alert even experienced drivers.
Now if you will excuse us -- we have to schedule that appointment with the body shop.
Albert Austria, Sr Vehicle Eval Engineer @ 5790 miles
April 02, 2009
Not everything about the 2009 Hyundai Genesis is well-sorted. The Bluetooth, navigation system and integrated iPod connection generally work better than average, but there are a few notable hiccups.
Take the above phone number, dialed via Bluetooth. It's supposed to read 1 (805) 637-7243*. The way it looks makes it seems like I'm calling France, or something.
*Don't bother calling. It's a dead-end unless you're calling from your own T-mobile phone, in which case you're already dialing this number each time you check your own voice mail.
The guidance volume for the navigation system is even worse.