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Hyundai Accent Tire and Wheel Questions
Re: 2007 Accent bolt patterns [kicker364]
Kicker you do realize that the GS has 14 inchers while the SE has 16. I was @ Hyundai last week looking @ this but I couldn't tell b/c all the cars come with the plastic covers covering the lugs. Seems as good as those SE wheels look, Hyundai would offer some alternative other than the plastic. Read More...
2007 Hyundai Accent v 2007 Toyota Yaris Lift
Re: 2007 Hyundai Hatch and 2007 Toyota Yaris Lift [tjw1308]
I see that since you can't make a case for the Yaris, other than it has a very good chance to be reliable and it has excellent fuel economy, you turn back to your same-old attacks on Hyundai in general. How about backing up your arguments with some facts, as I and others have done? Your attempts to extricate yourself from your errors of fact used to be amusing; now they ... Read More...
Re: 2007 Hyundai Hatch and 2007 Toyota Yaris Lift [tjw1308]
The time frame you cited was NOW, as in present tense, as in "Toyota outsells [emphasis mine] Hyundai by a more than 20 to 1 margin worldwide." The calculations I provided on gas savings (and finance savings and repair savings) were based on an "average" driver who drives 12k a year (please share that ALG link with us when you find it, try Google), finances the car, ... Read More...
Re: 2007 Hyundai Hatch and 2007 Toyota Yaris Lift [tjw1308]
Clue me in as to which time period you had 20:1... Doesn't matter, we are talking about Accent vs. Yaris, not Hyundai vs. Toyota...you are being way off-topic here. Plus, both are new cars (especially Hyundai's) so reliablity is a moot point to be even discussing...give it a few years and then we'll chat :) And your second "secret", I am puzzled too, again off-topic, ... Read More...
Re: 2007 Hyundai Hatch and 2007 Toyota Yaris Lift [tjw1308]
Please go back and read what I said a couple of posts ago. You either didn't read it the first time, or conveniently ignored it. I agreed that the depreciation savings on the Accent could be made up by the gas savings on the Yaris. But there's also finance savings and repair savings. So using the example you reposted: Accent: $13,040 price + 6.5% tax + $300 license/fees ... Read More...
Re: 2007 Hyundai Hatch and 2007 Toyota Yaris Lift [backy]
Let's have a look: "So the purchase prices for sake of this example are $13,040 (TMV less rebate) for the Accent and $14,950 for the Yaris (TMV, assuming no rebate). After five years according to ALG's estimates, the Accent will be worth 23% of its MSRP and the Yaris will be worth 32%. That's $3334 for the Accent and $4784 for the Yaris. But the Accent actually cost ... Read More...
Re: 2007 Hyundai Hatch and 2007 Toyota Yaris Lift [tjw1308]
If you want to make this a discussion about which manufacturer has more awards (even recent ones), let's go... Why would we want to do that? Besides being off-topic, it would highlight the fact that Toyota offers many more models than Hyundai as well as outsells them worldwide by, what was it, 20:1? ;) But if you want to bring up awards for the Yaris or Accent hatchbacks, ... Read More...
Re: 2007 Hyundai Hatch and 2007 Toyota Yaris Lift [joe97]
See, I think it is pertinent seeing as they are BOTH "new" models. All we have to go off of is history, not just a 90 day "honeymoon" (people like new and shiny things haha). As discussed before, despite being "new" the Yaris shares a lot mechanically in common with the ECHO. So does the Accent (with the previous-gen). Look at the history of both, and it's easy to PREDICT ... Read More...
Re: 2007 Hyundai Hatch and 2007 Toyota Yaris Lift [backy]
Again, if you consider that "many" problems, Hyundai has more than the "many" problems Toyota does: http://www.cnn.com/2006/AUTOS/06/07/jdpower_iqs/ If you want to make this a discussion about which manufacturer has more awards (even recent ones), let's go... ;) But I have a hunch you already know how it'll end up. And didn't you say not too long ago that ... Read More...
Re: 2007 Hyundai Hatch and 2007 Toyota Yaris Lift [tjw1308]
Please show me where I described it as anything but more risk? OK, how about this from a few minutes ago: Historically, even as recent as the last 5 years, you'd have far less to "risk" [emphasis mine] if you went with a Yaris. Not sure what buying with cash has to do with this. Since the Accent costs less up front than the Yaris, why should taking out a loan be a problem ... Read More...
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