The hybrids fuel economy is great until you do the math on the cost to own. You're going to pay an extra 2k for the hybrid. Over five years, you'll save about $2925 in fuel. Sounds great until you have spit out $3900 for a new hybrid battery. Honda lost their case because they knew the battery had a shorter lifespan than advertised. So they were forced to extend the warranty to 9 years. Again, sounds great until find out they did an "update" at your last service visit on the battery that extends its life another year. Ironically, just enough for the warranty to be invalid. All together, you can expect to pay about 3k more than your gas guzzling neighbor. Cust. Serv. is a joke.
2005 Honda Civic EX 4dr Sedan w/Front Side Airbags (1.7L 4cyl 4A)
Just back from my fourth visit to the dealer and $1800 poorer so far. Had to replace the crankshaft sensor and harness. Doesn't include the $1000 for the timing belt and maintenance they talked me into on the 1st visit.
We bought into the Honda is the most reliable car on the road fantasy, 500k miles and nothing but an oil change blah blah... Ours is only at 99K. Always did all the scheduled maintenance. I almost stalled out on the highway. Try seeing how happy other drivers are when you're driving 20 mph on the 101 (for you socal drivers)
Looks like the same trap we had with Ford and GM. Thing just starts falling apart at 100k/10 yr. The civic didn't even make it that far.
2005 Honda Civic Value Package 4dr Sedan w/Front side Airbags (1.7L 4cyl 4A)
Excellent car. I got is second hand in pritty good shape. A/C took $800 from me in repairs. Few other repairs that are normal for older car. Drives very good, fuel economy is excellent for old car. If you get one in good shape and the right price, it defenetely worth it.
Looks very decent.
Americans should learn how to assemble Japanese cars better. Or just make better Fords and GM's. Then we would not have a problem in North America with cars.
I love my car. I got it because of the gas prices going up and I loved the way it looked. I don't regret it. I get about 45mpg because I like to speed. It is light, small, and fun to drive. The one thing that I just don't like is when I'm driving up those crazy steep hill going to Las Vegas. I have to catch momentum and then keep it on 3rd gear.
I still believe it is the best looking hybrid ever built.
It's hard to go up on long steep hills.
My primary vehicle is a 4 door 4x4 pickup and my 5 day/week commute is a 57 mile round trip. I needed a commuter car.
I bought my '05 Si (EP3) in March of 2010 w/ a documented 70k miles of near-perfect maintenance; 3 years later and 40k more miles, I have no complaints. Happily uses 87 octane and and with my VERY heavy foot, it still gets no less than 27 mpg of mixed driving (30-31 on a highway trip.)
I've found it likes Pennzoil Synthetic blend oil the best for both performance and MPGs.
Completed the 100k service, new iridium plugs, coolant flush and serpentine belt (no timing belt to replace in these) and I easily expect another 100k on this car.
Love the cargo room too!
Plenty of room for me at 6'1", and perfect reach for dash-mounted shifter.
Nice to have the shifter mounted close to the shifter to keep both hands on steering wheel as much as possible.
Seats are very supportive, though fabric is quite worn with being 8+ years old.
Hatch is so nice for having the option to haul large objects or 4 people.
Great handling, despite a bit of body roll.
Stiffer coilovers would make a world of difference on this car, but for a daily driver it's near-perfect.
LOVE that it runs on 87 octane unlike the '06 and newer premium-fuel-dependent Si coupes and sedans!!
All leather front seats for better durability.
A 6th gear would've helped to improve highway MPGs to the mid 30s.
Steering wheel mounted audio controls would've been great.
I'm not a fan of front wheel drive, so I will be upgrading the front to a Helical limited slip differential.
Not cheap but necessary in my opinion.
More power would be nice, but not at the expense of diminished MPGs or more expensive fuel.
This is all very "nitpicky" stuff though.
It's a fantastic, fun-to-drive 2nd vehicle that serves perfect as a fairly economical commuter that I bought as a 2nd owner for less than $10k.
Great job Honda!