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Ford Mustang Engine Problems
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spark pug blow out
Warning : 1999-2004 4.6 liter engines have been known to have the spark pug blow out of the cylinder head . Its happened to me and alot of other people . Ford didn't put enough treads in the cylinder which is aluminum and they will blow out. Now its going to cost me about 2,000.00 - 3,000.00 dollars to have the engine tore down and replace the heads or have inserts ... Read More
Ford Mustang Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: 2008 V6 Prem Mustang Coupe [kidpoboy]
My thoughts......a Roush Stage 3 Vert is the most over priced car in the world thanks to the GT-500. Ford destroyed these after-market cars when the launched the GT-500. Folks are starting to buy these closer to closer to sticker every day, which makes paying $57k for a Roush insane. You sir, should write a letter to Ford thanking them for the GT-500. So, I think $43k or so is a ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2004 and earlier)
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Re: 2004 Ford Mustang GT suspension [edickerson]
I replaced mine at about 60k and 60 - 70k seems to be about the right time. You will notice a huge difference when you replace them. There are also tons of options out there depending on what you are looking for.
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2004 Ford Mustang GT suspension
I have about 70,000 miles on my GT and am curious about when the shocks/struts should be replaced? I would like to replace with better than OEM if available. Any suggested brands and ballpark figure on cost? Thanks ...
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Re: 2004 Mustang Head Lights [maryaw]
Sorry, this is my biggest pet peeve (followed closely by spelling "brake" as "break"). First, you take up other people's time to answer a question that you could have easily found yourself. Second - it would take all of 3 or 4 minutes to look this up in the OM rather than waiting hours or days for someone to answer it. And since the OMs are now online ( https://www.fleet.ford.com/maintenance/owners_manuals/default.asp ) ... Read More
2007 Ford Shelby Cobra GT500
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Re: Visited a dealer [advequityguy]
FYI - Ford and SVT produced less than 27k Mustang Cobras in the 4 model years 2001 thru 2004 (thats less than 6700 units per year). So I guess these cars were also "Limited Production". The fact is, these cars are demanding MSRP+ADM because of the Shelby name. Nothing more. Nothing less. And the folks who are actually PAYING $15-25k over MSRP now are doing it JUST to be the first ... Read More
Pontiac Grand Prix vs. Ford Mustang
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Re: Mustang gt vs. gxp [gxpjoeyp]
That really surprises me, However I'm glad to hear the good news. I do know for a fact, that it will out run a Ford Crown Vic with a Police interceptor (not counting motorola) just the car itself. It is a 2004 vs. gxp 06. I know do to having to drive one at work. Ford will generally top out at 140 as the Gxp is said to have topped out ... Read More
2007 Ford Shelby Cobra GT500
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Re: Ford now? [sssst]
Yes they did. I really liked the last Mustang Cobra, 2003-2004. The SVT Lightning was a beauty as well. I've been reading a lot here about dealers charging stupid money over MSRP for this car. I am affiliated with a Ford dealer (I work for a Mazda dealer) and I asked the GSM there, and he said they have not set an asking price yet. I'm guessing it will be over ... Read More
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Re: Paying over MSRP [starboardside]
On a 2004 GT Convertible that stickered at $31,500 the margin was only $2,000. I just looked up a 2006 GT Convertible that stickers at $34,855. Invoice $32,171. That's only a $2,684 margin. I suspect the Shelby won't have much more margin than that. As far as waiting until they are sitting on the lots, good luck! This isn't like buying a Cobra. The Cobra was built for many years. The ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2004 and earlier)
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Re: 2004 Mustang Driveability problems [tina1994]
I have a 2001 V-6 that is starting to idle at 2,200 rpms. It will go down to a more nomal rpm after some time and then idle fast again. I took to a very good mechanic and he said that he did not know what to do to fix it. He recommended that we take it to a Ford dealership for repair.
Ford Mustang (2005 & newer) Problems and Solutions
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Re: To mimiata [cobragt]
Yes indeed, the 350Z has had some problems, such as the excessive tire wear problem the first couple of years. Consumer Reports states that the reliability of the V8 is average, but the V6 is below average. Any clue as to what they are referring to? I was thinking of possibly getting a V6 some day, and the 4.0 is an old tried and true engine used in the Explorer, unless ... Read More
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Re: Not a smooth shifter [cobragt]
Consumer Reports: Mustang 2004 reliability looks excellent. MSN Auto: Reliability excellent. JD Powers mechanical looks like an excellent rating as well. The 2005 is rated lower on JD Powers for mechanical than the 2004. The 2005 and 2006 overall is a pretty good rating. And I would imagine compared to other Ford and GM cars of the past is pretty darn good for the first year. That said, it looks like ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2005) vs. 2005 Pontiac GTO
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Re: GTO ... yuck! [pony_pirate]
Don't forget, people were paying MSRP and over to get the first 2004 GTO's too, which was crazy. Some were marked up $5k+ over MSRP. People were also "tickled pink" buying Honda Odyssey's in 2003, paying MSRP+ and waiting as long as 6 months for it. Personally I have never and will never pay MSRP for a car or wait for it, IMHO. Also ford didn't know that the V8 model ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2005 & newer) Problems and Solutions
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Re: 2005 Mustang Problems [5twenty]
I bought my GT Dec 9,2004 in Paris, Tex. From the get go I noticed the fuel shut off problems, then the poping coming from the right front tire area. The dealership has pretty well blown me off on both problems. The local dealership fixed the poping problems by replacing the strut bushings. At least that what they told me and the problem seems to be fixed. They have however said ... Read More
Ford Mustang Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: Used GT's Are as Rare as Hen's Teeth, Just Like the New Ones [graphicgu
I see the same false conclusion to why buyers can't locate the manual GT version Mustangs. it is not that there is a high demand for this model, it is because there are so few being produced with the options wanted. There are many Mustangs in the dealership lots here in the metro DC area because they are either V6 automatics or models that the few thousand on the present waiting ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2005) vs. 2005 Pontiac GTO
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Re: Is there really such a thing as a GT w/ no options? [tayl0rd]
The Ford website shows $1,770 for the shaker. The Mustang trunk is bigger because of the gas tank relocation on the GTO for US safety stds. Previous Mustang, 2004 the gas tank is right at the bumper. The GTO is the larger roomier car overall then the Mustang. Compact vs Subcompact by EPA ratings. GTO 95 cu ft interior, Mustang 83 cu ft interior.
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Re: It's in the gearing [tayl0rd]
Just to name a few Performance V6 engines of 2004 that made the same 260hp or more then the V8 Mustang GT..... G35 with 260 - 280hp on 3.5L V6 350Z 280hp on 3.5L V6 Maxima 265hp on 3.5L V6 Grand Prix GTP 260hp on 3.8L V6 BTW Ford GT is twice the price of the Z06, I should hope it makes 95 more hp for $70k more :P
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Re: It's in the gearing [tayl0rd]
A 2004 Mustang GT had a performance 4.6L V8 only making 260hp. That is pretty embarassing for a V8. Most performance V6 engines of 2004 made that much power or more. In fact the base 4.6L in the Crown Vic only makes a paltry 224 hp? The only way Ford can make any real power out of their V8's is to supercharge them. Before we hear the old comeback of, "Well ... Read More
Modern Muscle with Classic Names
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Re: Retro's are no goes! [socala4]
Interestingly, the Mustang has faced this dilemma before, and its history provides examples of both when it worked and when it didn't. Consider the leap from the retro design of the Mustang II (an attempt to get back to the proportions and style of the orignal 1964 1/2 car) to the Euro-futurism of the Fox body. Now that was a bold change...and it worked well. But on the other hand, there's ... Read More
Ford Mustang Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: Do I have a chance? [vistablues]
hey vistablues...I'll give you a good story, I too ordered at 2005 GT Premium, in Nov. 2004...from a small WI dealer...by June of 2005, still no Mustang, was told Ford could not produce 13,000 orders. Scrapped my order! Went back to same dealer end of June 2005, reordered a 2006. Was informed at that time that the dealer had a small allotment, wish I'd known that months ago! After the July ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2005 & newer) Problems and Solutions
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a point of refrence...
tayl0rd, I have owned 3 mustangs to date, and let me tell you... the new 05 body style is just a touring car. no longer a sports car. The three mustangs i have owned: 1) 1996 cobra 2) 2004 mach1 3) 2005 GT of these cars, these are my thoughts... the cobras are faster not to mention handle better than the mach1's, but ONLY if you put serious money into them, ... Read More
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Re: Soooo aside of improvements [m1miata]
From what I am seeing here in the way of problem areas, is it safe to say the best Mustang for reliability is the 2004 model, or older? I realize the improvements for handling, and in some, but perhaps not all ways in styling, but what about every day rock solid no problems driving? I have owned an '05 GT convertible since July, no problems with fueling, vibration, reliability, batteries, starting, ... Read More
Ford Mustang Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Still Waiting....
Wow....good thing I have a nice purple mustang GT, 1996, 46,000 miles...STiLL. Ordered my 2005 GT Premium Nov. 16, 2004.....yes, 2004. No mustang. End of June 2005 re-ordered a 2006....since my 2005 wasn't going to be made. Well, here it is, October 21, 2005 and still waiting for my car. It'll be a year in November since I originally ordered. Are there any other dummies out there like me who have ... Read More
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Still Waiting for my GT - 10 MONTHS LATER
Hey to Graphic guy out there, I haven't posted for awhile...thought I'd pop in and say...I'm still waiting....ordered my 05 Mustang GT in November 2004........never came.....by June of 2005, decided to hang up the idea of getting my 2005, so went back to the dealer and put in an order for a 2006, as shut down was to take place in July...what the heck, I'm not getting my 2005. Heard production ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2005) vs. 2005 Pontiac GTO
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Re: gto vs. mustang too boring, how about gto+gt vs SKYLINE [elias]
The 2005 V6 Stang only comes with single exhaust from the factory. The only way it would have duals would be aftermarket. I wish Ford made the dual exhaust on the GT more prominent, like the duals on the previous 2004 or like 2005 GTO with big chromed tips. That can easily be changed aftermarket.
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Re: Mustang Vs. GTO [musclecars4me]
"Actually 66% of all Mustangs sold are Automatic." Yes. But the reason is NOT that the manual shifter in the current Mustang is a bitch to operate. It is that most people prefer automatics. But just because most people prefer automatics is no excuse for a company to offer a crummy manual. If I recall the 1999 to 2004 Mustang had the shifter in a awkard position. Which Ford addressed with ... Read More
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Re: I'm not sure.... [graphicguy]
The Corvette almost outsold the V8 Mustang GT last year, 40k vs 40k in sales. Remember the vette costs $20k more. So it wasn't the higher pricing, same with GTO. GTO sales are up 50%+ this year vs last year, not bad, can't argue that. I paid nearly $29k for my 2005 GTO under $1k rebate and employee pricing. As for (Weight) The new 2005 Mustang GT is 150 pounds heavier ... Read More
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Re: Mustang Vs. GTO [graphicguy]
As much as you want to give credit to the Mustang's formula for being just right, you have to admit that the 2004 (and previous years) Fox Mustang STILL sold pretty well, despite being a wholly inferior car. That's one point of evidence that prompted me to claim they probably had a LOT more leeway with the 05's formula than you're suggesting. Ford has a lot of best sellers in a ... Read More
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Re: Mustang Vs. GTO, Ford didn't start with cln sheet [graphicguy]
This is the real story. .Ford did NOT start with a pretty clean sheet for 2005 Stang. They copied the 1967 styling, real original, right? Are they going to retro Stang2 or Fox body for next generation? Then Ford used or heavily borrowed from the 2000 Lincoln LS chassis as their starting point. They took their 15 yr old 4.6L V8 which they changed 60% of it and took the 5spd ... Read More
Ford Mustang Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: Going to take the plunge-Three questions please [winner]
Here's your link: http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/timeline/05/06/index.htm By the way, the Ford dealership should have a book containing 8.5" x 11" color sheets for all colors offered. Ask for it. It's a really good way to see the paint. Don't forget to also view them outside in the natural daylight. The lights in the dealership can distort the color somewhat. I have photos of the 2005 Mustang in Tungsten Grey from the 2004 Auto ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2005) vs. 2005 Pontiac GTO
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Re: 2004 GTO $4k more 2004 GT in resale, KBB [gxpgtodanman]
2004 Mustang worth $19,235 sold privately 2004 GTO worth $23,385 sold privately GTO is worth $4k more. Enough said!! You're not serious?? That's not even the same Mustang! Come on, buddy. This thread is Ford Mustang (2005+) vs. 2005 Pontiac GTO.
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old Mustang NOT classic [rorr]
"Been to many car shows featuring Cavaliers or GrandAms? " What does that have to do with Mustang vs Gto? I have been to many shows featuring the 2004 and 2005 GTO. Sorry, but it commands a lot more attention then you think. I have had just as many people coming up to me at the shows as the 2005 Stang owners.. "The point being - having style which evokes a ... Read More
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Re: Honda to Ford.. [gxpgtodanman]
the 2005 gto is no sleeper. i wish it was a sleeper ! it's incredible how much attention the car gets - people shouting from other cars, parking lots, opposing traffic. i actually like the more-sleeper/2004 styling way better but it's worth it to get the LS2. i've got 1500 miles on the car, mostly highway.. in city traffic or parking lots at least 20 random people have either shouted good ... Read More
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Re: Demographics [rorr]
rorr, you and your GM/racer/f-body/big-block pal make great points. i think you are right on. i am an old-time GM guy - i've owned 6 f-body cars over the last few decades - but my spine couldn't take the ride any more so i unloaded my final Z28 in 2004 and have not owned GM since then. GTO brought me back. i would have looked at c6 vette too if/once they ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2005 and Newer)
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Re: Striping [detailz]
That's the 2004 detroit auto show car paint scheme (was used on the Ford GT, Mustang GT prototype and Shelby Cobra Concept). I have the special edition autoart 1:18 scale model of that same car with that paint scheme and am planning to do the same thing when I get my mustang in another year or so. I don't think the racing stripes are available from the factory but they may ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2004 and earlier)
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Re: 2004 Ford Mustang GT [m1miata]
The new Malibu has electric steering and I didn't notice any problem. The car steered fine. I didn't even know that it had electric steering until I read the brochure later. The throttle by wire though on the Montego was a strange experience.
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Re: 2004 Ford Mustang GT [dispencer1]
" drove a new Montego the other day. When you pushed down on the accelerator for a second the car felt like it was in neutral than started accelerating. The salesman said that it had been sitting and was cold. I walked and I'd recommend that you do the same. There are literally thousands of 2004's around with low mileage -under 10k - and this one sounds like a lemon to ... Read More
Ford Mustang Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: Question on Pricing the 2006 Mustang GT [graphicguy]
Thanks Graphic....I must say, you have been the most helpful person to me thru out this whole process I've been through the last 8 months, without your insight, I'd not have known what to ask, didn't know there was such a thing as priority codes when ordering, etc.... I've had my current GT for 10 years now so haven't had to dive into the auto buying process for a long time, ... Read More
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Re: Question on Pricing the 2006 Mustang GT [frnkrzzo]
Hate to tell you this, but no, I didn't wait to order for better pricing in Feb or March, nor was I one who in September saying only a fool would buy one then. I ordered mine in November of 2004...yes, 2004. And it's now July 7th and I still have no Mustang GT. That is my gripe. I got about $1800 under MSRP on the pricing as I was the ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2004 and earlier)
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Re: 2004 Ford Mustang GT [dispencer1]
There are some cars you have to get to a certain rpm before they accelerate, really wierd sensation, even dangerous IMHO.
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Re: 2004 Ford Mustang GT [arnie08515]
I drove a new Montego the other day. When you pushed down on the accelerator for a second the car felt like it was in neutral than started accelerating. The salesman said that it had been sitting and was cold. I walked and I'd recommend that you do the same. There are literally thousands of 2004's around with low mileage -under 10k - and this one sounds like a lemon to ... Read More
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Re: 2004 Ford Mustang GT [arnie08515]
the '69 Stang 390 was fast and big. :P
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Re: 2004 Ford Mustang GT
I just drove a 2004 GT V - 8 260 hoursepower at my local dealer. Its a leftover model and the dealer was anxious to get rid of it. The problem was that the car was sluggish. I really had to push down on the accelerator. Once it got to 3rd gear it was fine and ran well. But frankly the acceleration was disappointing. After the test drive I told the ... Read More
Ford Mustang Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: Question on Pricing the 2006 Mustang GT [frisconick]
They majorly underestimated the demand for the GT...as you can see from a few of my postings here, I ordered mine in November of 2004!! And yes, I'm quite disgusted. Plus to top it off I ordered from a dealer that has low allocation. I was told by my dealer that 13,000 cars (GT's) ordered are not going to get made. Anyone you can find that HAS a GT, you'll pay ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2004 and earlier)
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Re: Style [m1miata]
1999s-2004s are where it's at for me. I think they're a great combination of current styling (well, at the time anyway) and heritage cues. Taillights, fake-scoop-o-rama and the door styling all evoke Mustangs of old, but without being overly and obviously retro. Also has a certain (to me anyway) muscle-car, "gimme your lunch money!" look to it that I enjoy. ;) On the other two choices, while I think the 05s ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2005 and Newer)
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2006 changes
The V6 for 2006 now has an optional Pony Package. Vista Blue replaces Sonic Blue. Tungsten replaces Mineral Grey (this was the color of the mustang, Shelby Cobra concept and Ford GT at the 2004 Detroit Auto Show). 18" wheels available for the GT.
Ford Mustang Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Question on Pricing the 2006 Mustang GT
Hey, Graphicguy, if you're out there, got a good one for you. As you know, I've waited for my 05 GT since last Nov. 2004.....still no luck. As of this week, my dealer put an order in for me for a 2006. I haven't totally finalized pricing, etc., but am being told they will honor my 2005 price, however, they will have to add $500 to $700 to the price because ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2005 & newer) Problems and Solutions
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Badstang
In August of 2004 I placed my order for the GT Mustang Automatic. In four months the car appeared at the dealership. It had everything wrong with it that has been discussed here, and I refused to take delivery of a car with so many things wrong with it. This car also had one problem that I have not seen in this thread: The rear suspension bounced up and down so ... Read More
Ford Mustang Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Mustang GT Coupe-Automatic-Dallas-Bought 06-07
I will try to make this brief, but I have been reading this forum for awhile now and, to some of you who have ordered Mustangs, please keep waiting and have hope! My son (16) has had the Mustang "want mode" every since he went to the State Fair in late 2004. I went to a local dealer (Park Cities Ford) in April and, of course, they had 1-a convertible with ... Read More
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STILL WAITING.....
Hi ya'all.....here it is, June 4th, NO MUSTANG GT. Ordered November 2004. Last call to Ford Direct - "the computer is still waiting to pick my number"....this is really bull. I did talk to my dealer also, he's waiting to get the ordering info on the 2006 model. Soon as he gets, I can come in and re=order, says I will get first priority due to the hassle I've had to ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2005 and Newer)
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Re: Mustang sales figures [martin3]
Didn't they already mark 2 production increases since intro? Ford's web site cites increases in production of 80,000 cars over 2004 numbers. I wonder how much the Mustang's popularity has exceeded Ford exec's expectations? Adding production is a lot more complicated than just adding another shift at the factory. I would rather they keep quality up rather than slap a few more "numbers" together. That being said, Ford, can you build ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2004 and earlier)
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headlights bracket?
can someone help me out by looking under their hood of their 99 to 2004 mustang? i had crashed my mustang and my headlites popped out... i bought new aftermarket headlites, but for some reason, they didn't come with some sort of brace or brackets that hold the lites in place... now, i dont know what they're suppose to look like and the ford dealership wasn't sure exactly which part i ... Read More
Ford Mustang GT vs C5 Corvette (2005)
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Re: 300hp vs 400hp [gt9]
" the vette should out preform the stang given the hp difference. what is wrong with you people. more hp means more proformance. but lets get to the real world test. the stang always beat the camaro and the trans am in the real world. that is stock of the dealers lot. why would anyone in there right mind want to pay 45,000.00 or more for a new vette. im mean ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2005) vs. 2005 Pontiac GTO
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Re: Shelby Cobra doesn't take care of Vette, not Z06[stang22] [442man] [spu
As for the Mustang GT being superior to the GTO? To each their own. I disagree, but that is my opinion. In C&D the GTO won most of the head to head performance tests, but hey, I guess the Mustang GT is better. The vaunted build quality or lack of on the 2005, go to Mustang Problems forum, seems like trouble in paradise. One of my friends works at Ford Dealer ... Read More
Ford Mustang GT vs C5 Corvette (2005)
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Re: [shill]
The Mustang wasn't in my view at the time, actually as noted elsewhere on Edmunds I was lusting after an XK8 but at 6' 3" I couldn't get in the car and spent 9 months looking for the alternative. The Corvette wasn't even on my radar until one of our Plant Managers' who drives one noted that we made a key component for the Active Handling and I should "buy the ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2005) vs. 2005 Pontiac GTO
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Re: Most Appealing Sporty Car, GTO [sputterguy]
But isn't that what Ford is about. Mass producing cheap cars for the masses. LOL, and GM isn't? The 2004 Mustang we just bought was a 40th Anniversary. I actually like the dual-colored interior better than the all one color interior of her 2001. But, once again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Ford Mustang (2005 & newer) Problems and Solutions
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2005 Mustang Problems
I had the first, I've been told, 2005 Mustang GT in Washington State, delivered the first week in November 2004. I've had just about all the problems mentioned on the board including a skipping CD player, fuel filling issues, noise from the dash on the right side near the pillar, and worst of all, the awful popping noise from the front end that Ford cannot seem to fix. As of today, ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2005) vs. 2005 Pontiac GTO
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Re: this & that..... [graphicguy]
graphicguys writes......someone actually said that the GTO felt like it was wearing an "auto condom" when compared to the Mustang. I concur. ..... Kind of funny because C&D said the GTO was the MORE FUN to DRIVE car then Mustang,and it's steering was FAR more communicative then the steering the Mustang, LOL! Graphic guy writes.....I do think some of the lack of performance difference stems from the shifter in the GTO ... Read More
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Re: gunit [rorr]
Yes and No, CLK55 is TWICE the price of GTO. GTO is NOT twice the price or that much more $$ then comparable equipped Mustang. $5k dif to avg buyer, maybe less So for me the GTO with my GM employee discount, $1k rebate, Gm credit card points etc and $1k internet pricing was not much more then a loaded Mustang V8 which goes for about $28k to $29k. Pretty close ... Read More
Ford Mustang Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Still Waiting on My 2005
I posted awhile back regarding ordering a 2005 Mustang GT....I ordered in November 2004 and still have not seen my new stang! I've started to call Ford direct and bug them weekly, hoping to get them rolling on my 6 month and waiting order. I'm waiting to hear back from my dealer this next week about what happens if my 2005 isn't fulfilled, does it automatically roll to a 2006...he seemed ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2005) vs. 2005 Pontiac GTO
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Re: Gunit [gunit]
My fiancee just bought the 2004 this weekend! Only one left within about 200 miles. Plenty of 2005's everywhere. I loved the 2005 and was set to buy one of those, it would not have been that much more expensive. But she was so sentimentally attached to her old one that she wanted another one like it. She did not care about the new chassis and improved engines and transmissions, etc. ... Read More
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Re: Another good C&D comparo quote [gunit]
I like the GTO you don't. Thats cool. Hey, I like the GTO as well, and think it deserves alot of respect. If I was to win one, I wouldn't necessarily drive straight to the Ford dealer to trade it. I mainly jumped into this discussion to defend the Mustang rather than beat up on the GTO, sorry if it sounds that way. It's just that if I was spending my ... Read More
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Let the market decide
Pontiac GTO: Heavy incentives by the end of its' first year on the market! GM begs its loyalists with unheard of additional incentives for GM credit card holders. Even this won't help them meet their sales goals, and many 2004 models sit unloved on dealers' lots well into 2005. Ford Mustang: No sign of discounts, not to mention incentives! Quite the contrary, most dealers will not even honor the employee or ... Read More
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Re: This is great..... [bobthephotoguy]
Just checked with Arizona's largest Ford dealer. Ernhardt Ford. They have 27 05 Mustangs and 7 are GT models. They have MSRP listed on them with a note of 'make offer'. Check Edmund's TMV, Still around MSRP for GT and not far below for V6. "Make offer?" How about invoice price, less 3-4k in rebates, less 5-6k GM card bonus bucks on a 2004 GTO!
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Re: Let the market decide [benderofbows]
benderofbows wrote.......(By the way, even the old body style 2004 Mustangs were all gone before the Brand New 2004 GTOs!)..... Incorrect, the 2004 Mustangs were NOT all gone before the new 2004 GTO, not sure where you got that info because in my area near NY City here....there are still NEW 2004 Mustangs on the Ford Dealer parking lot by me with heavy incentives that still haven't moved yet. I have ... Read More
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Re: Let the market decide [benderofbows]
Hmm. You are Pontiac marketing. Let's launch a 350 hp RWD sports car primarily in the Midwest, in the middle of winter, follow it up with virtually NO marketing or ads, and let our dealership body throw $5-$10k of ADM on the price. Said dealership body generally also won't allow test-drives without a signed purchase contract. Keep building cars until October 2004 (I'm sure the 2004 Mustangs were done months before ... Read More
Ford Mustang Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: Mustang orders....allocation. [graphicguy]
Hey, thanks much for that article, it helped confirm my dilemma...I ordered my Premium Mustang GT in November 2004....6 months ago! My phone call to Ford customer service last week gave me news that they are short on the V8 engine, and one of the questions I was asked was did I order the "My Color" option? Which yes, of course I did. They told me that Ford never expected to ... Read More
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Below invoice
Lots of cars are sold below invoice. Sure the GT Stang may not for a few more months, or maybe give it two years - hard to tell. Sooner or later, it will sell at invoice or lower, if you are saying only a $2,500 mark up. I do not believe that the invoice is the bottom line. Too many other payments must go to the dealerships. Otherwise, why would anyone ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2004 and earlier)
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Re: 2005 Mustang V 6 Gas problems [fatsicle2]
This discussion is about Mustangs 2004 and earlier. You should post your question in the Ford Mustang (2005+): Problems & Solutions where your model year and problems are being discussed.
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Bullitt
Only miscue with the Bullitt IMO is that it sports the GT's fake hoodscoop. The side scoops were changed to a wonderful streamlined, "scoopless" style, but the hood scoop remained the same. If Ford had gone with the same reverse-scoop hood that was used on the 2003-2004 V6 Mustangs (which itself is from the 1999 Cobra)...it would have made the Bullitt even more distinctive. Plus it would have been more similar ... Read More
Ford Mustang Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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Re: coming off the sales of Stangs for $15k [m1miata]
Yes, I have to agree with you m1miata. My wife purchased a new 2004 GT premium last October for well below the sticker including rebates. It is a shame that Ford finally has a mass-produced vehicle that produces some excitement for the average Joe who remembers the 65 experience and then reverts to the mark-up mania usually reserved for truly "got-to-have" vehicles like the Ford GT. There are few of us ... Read More
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2004 Ford Mustang
I bought my stang about 6 months ago and I love it. No regrets.
Ford Mustang (2004 and earlier)
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Re: resale [qbrozen]
disagree! There is a glut of 2004 (and prior) mustangs on dealer and rental lots because they have poor build quality, lack refinement, Fox-platform, and Ford had to fill the (fixed) plant to make money so they built too many of a car most people didn't want to buy (retail). Enter the 2005 Mustang, all new platform, refined fit-n-finish, 300-HP engine, value priced and built in a flexible plant. ... Read More
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Ballpark...Mustang nut ?
You claim be be a Mustang nut. On page 24 of the 05 Ford Mustang brochure (c) 2004 it lists the options I mentioned and claims them to be GENUINE Ford. With that I rule that you can't award squat ! Again the Host will be pleased. :)
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Justr a thought
Considering how the Mustang is gonna help save Ford, why do they persist in making the GT, a 150K car? The whole point of ford was to a car everyone can afford. Style is one of the hardes things to hit, guys let me ask you, imagine is where mustang left off (40K) you would have the Shelby GR-1 as say, a lincoln or Mercury model? for say 40K - 60K??? ... Read More
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dcls, good question...all the body parts I see these days are for the 1999+ Mustangs. Tried an ebay search? As for cleaning up the top, a good carwash solution has always worked for me. Use a soft brush too. That should do it. Darren, that price range sounds about right for a loaded V6 convertible with all the goodies (though I do note for 2004, Ford got rid of that odd ... Read More
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Auto transmission
I bought a new 2004 V6 coupe in May. It has only 1200 miles on it and has developed a disturbing problem. When the car is driven, after sitting all night, or all day (cold engine), sometimes, but not every time, when the transmission makes the first shift from first to second, there is an audible "clunk" noise. The transmission never makes the noise again until the next time the car ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2005 and Newer)
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Forgive me, I know this may be
off topic, but my own topic (Ford Crown Victoria)could never answer this question, but the sports-minded folks here at Mustang will have the answers...I just bought a 2004 Crown Vic, dual exhaust, floor shifter, (dare I say) "performance model" (I needed a good road car, and this fits the bill)...the car does not have a left foot "dead pedal", and the gas pedal is spaced too far (almost 3 inches) to ... Read More
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KINKS? probably not
Hey guys if you are thinking about getting into the new mustang but the spector of first model year glitches is causing you to think twice then consider the 2004 F-150 launch. JD Powers just found that the Initial Quality of the 2004 F-150 not only exceeded the previous design, it was also second in its class after the Toyota Tundra. Trust me, ford learned its lesson from the fiasco with ... Read More
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Not PINTO
Don't you all think that the shortened Mustang 2 of early-mid 70's was closer to a Pinto? With the 05, it seems that Ford Company was trying to go back to the "classic" real Mustang fastback of eras 65-66, 67-68, 69-70. The show car that was prelude to the 05 was cleaner and truer to the classic. If McQueen were alive and not so old, he probably would have waited till ... Read More
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Timeless design
Perhaps the 65-69 Mustang fastback is a “timeless design” in that it has endured the test of time favorably. The 05 model is an evolution of that design. Consider all versions from 70 to 2004 as not of that lineage. Notice how the current Porsche 911 body has evolved year by year and is connected to the original 911 of the 1960s? Most people would say that the 911 is an ... Read More
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It *was* odd that the Fox bodies didn't have any pony decoration anywhere on them... My 2002 however is littered with ponies...they're everywhere it seems. I'd agree with fdthird about the 1994-1998s...it was about referencing Mustang heritage (in the rounded idiom of the day). The 1999-2004s did the same thing, but with "new edge" cues. The 2005 seems deliberately retro though. That front end alone... : ) Ford is going to ... Read More
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Does anyone know if the 2004 GTO is DBW?
Does anyone know if the 2004 GTO uses "drive by wire" (DBW) technology, yet? I am sure GM will move to it someday. I just noticed that the new 2005 Mustang will be using DBW, yuck. Audi has been using DBW for several years now. Their throttle has a nasty habit of waiting 1-2 seconds, before actually applying the throttle, but only sometimes, usually, when the delay will cause driver errors. ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2004 and earlier)
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Hoping to Buy
Hi everyone. I am hoping to buy a new 2004 Mustang in the next few months. I have a Ford Focus and have been semi-pleased with it (except for all the re-calls that it has gone through). I'm wanting the full package...leather, moonroof, spoiler, etc. My question is what should I look out for when looking at Mustangs? We have a family friend that is a dealer at the local Ford ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2005 and Newer)
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Allright we keep saying the same thing here so lets just stop. I never said Ford wouldn't find a way to move them off the lots. I was saying that they will have to discount the Mustang to keep selling them like they will want to. Meaning that once they are discounted, people WILL buy them, which is the exact same thing as what you people are saying. And yes all ... Read More
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EDIT: akirby beat me to the punch, but I'm goin' ahead anyway! : ) Nobody has suggested that Ford is not going to have to discount the remaining 2004 Mustangs. Rather, we have said that sales of the current gen. Mustang will continue, even in the face of the 2005 model. Sure they won't sell like hotcakes, but there will be sales... My point has been that there will be casual ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2004 and earlier)
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1/4 mile times for 1999-2004 mustang gt
just wondering if anyone here could direct me to a website with fords official 1/4 mile time for a 99-04 mustang gt. thanks in advance for any help.
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2004 Ford Mustang
Ford Mustang (2005 and Newer)
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the 05 mustang gt will not have irs.it will supposably go on sell in sept/oct 2004. expect the price to stay the same or rise only slightly. remember the mustangs market is an affordable sports car, raising the price would alienate the target audience. i would expect price increases about the same as the f150. from what i have heard the gt will get a 4.6 3v v8, with horsepower in ... Read More
Ford Mustang (2004 and earlier)
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That's correct, if you go by model year. If you go by introduction date, which WAS a big deal with the Mustang, than it could be a 2004. I mean, this is just a car, you can play with the numbers without changing the course of world history :) Ford made the car, they can call it whatever they want whenever they want.
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As rorr says, I think the Cobra in question is in fact the 2004. I believe the mystichrome paint job is part of the "40th Anniversary" package only for Cobras...GT and V6 versions will have lemans hood stripes. Never cared for the colorshifting paint myself, but I like stripes on pony cars... : ) However, I am a little dissapointed that Ford is choosing to commemorate the Mustang 40th birthday with ... Read More
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SAW NEW MUSTANG
Hello people, I've never posted here before but had to after I saw the new mustang at the auto show. Let me begin by saying the thing is madness(yeah it does have a clear roof)and it looks like Eleanor! THey had the MACH 1 and '03 Cobra sitting next to the "concept" GT and it made them look like has beens (think: the 5.0 next to a new Mustang)! I know, ... Read More
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New Cobra???
I've been reading about the new mustang, and I have a couple questions if anyone knows the answers. Will Ford be releasing the new mustang in 2004, or 2005? I've heard it both ways. Also, will there be an SVT Cobra still available?? If anybody knows, I would greatly appreciate it!
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Mustang 2004
Gesh, I know I'm getting old, but not to realize that the 2004 Mustang is coming out and has the same appearance of my very first Ford Mustang, 1968 Tang fastback with the 289HP and I even added a 4 speed competition HURST in it. God, can't wait for the new one - Last time I got this excited - I licked the paint of my Tang !
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Another ragtop fan.....
personally I can't conceive of buying a hardtop Mustang. I've always been partial to Mustang 'verts. Owned one, may buy another. April 2003 will be the intro date of the new production Mustang. The should be in showrooms. by late spring or summer '03. The 64 1/2 designation was never actually used by Ford Motor. Those early Mustangs had data plates and titles that said they were officially 1965 models. I ... Read More
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2005 mustang eh?
well, presently im in the market for a new Ford Mustang GT. I was gonna wait til november of 2003 to purchase - but it looks like i should just wait for this new one to come out. I went to the NAIAS show in Detroit to see the concept first hand - and I have to admit - that retro throwback styling is great. Even though I do like the ... Read More
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want to see the 2004/5 mustang GT
The best picture that I have seen was on the Ford website at: www.ford.com After getting to that page go to the bottom and click on the "2003 auto show"link and it will show all of Fords concept cars at the Detroit Auto show. The picture is a concept but is 90% final (I was told some of the "toys" may be added or removed) but besides that this is it. ... Read More
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2005 (june 04) Mustang
Guys and Gals: I just came back from the Detroit Autoshow and wanted to report back to you all. The 2005 Mustang is awesome to say the least. The are plenty of new cars at the show (GTO, GTP, New Audi, Subaru's, etc) but nothing caught my eye as much as the 2005 mustang. I must be be thinking right as it was named most significant design for this year's show. ... Read More
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2004 looks terrible
The new 04 model looks like my grandpa's caddy on crack. I love mustangs preferably 88 and up. But this new model makes the Mustang begin to look like every other car on the road. Stop trying to bring back that retro look Ford! Mustangs are supposed to have that outstanding look. One that turns heads. Not this ugly thing. I never thought I'd see the day when a mustang began ... Read More
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