Find Toyota Dealers in West Linn, Oregon

Hi Bob, This is actually a really tough question in my opinion. I live in mid OR and in all honesty, gas is at the $3.00 mark. Shen we were in CA a few weeks back, it was $3.30 and about $3.50 up in Tahoe. With the economy not doing so well, it being the end of the year, car lots in the area overflowing with excess stock (cars), dealerships needing to hit end of month/year quotas, this is definitely a prime time to buy. I looked very closely at the hybrid Civic and Prius (both '08 models). The '08 Civic hybrid still has the full federal tax break for about 3 more weeks, then they begin to phase it out progressively. Right now, it's about $2,400, assuming you're not hit with AMT and qualify for the full refund. Additionally, Oregon offers a state tax break of about $1500 for either the Civic or Prius, so, you're talking about an almost $4k tax break if purchased soon. In all honesty, I was very close to buying the civic, did the research, etc. It's basically like buying a fully loaded LX, but, instead, for the same price you get the hybrid engine/system. If it comes down to simply an economic decision, I'm not sure how you would beat the Civic at this point with the tax rebates in OR and full federal. CNN also just printed a nice article detailing it's analysis of how the hybrids stack up. Note, that the write up didn't take into account potential state tax credits. This article also does its best to compare apples to apples. It's probably not fair to compare the Prius to anything other than a non-hybrid that is about the same size/class. CNN suggests this equivalent would be the non-hybrid Camry for the Prius because it is bigger than the hybrid Civic or something like a Ford Focus. http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/autos/0711/gallery.hybrids_that_pay/index.ht- - ml I was getting dealer quotes for the hybrid civic (without nav) for high 21s. Assuming I would get the nearly 4k in write offs, that's about 17k for a very nice hybrid w/outstanding manufacturer reputation. Having said all that, I still went with the Prius. With package #2, you can find them in the low to mid 22k range out here and I still receive a $1,500 rebate from my state. So, why a Prius? First of all, I do more in-city driving, so, this specific type of driving evidently favors the Prius as it runs more often on battery up to about 30mph and gets nearly 10mph better gas mileage than the Civic in comparable contexts. #2, I just couldn't get over the back seats of the Civic not folding down. I guess the batteries are placed in such a way that they simply don't allow you to do this. Ouch! Having several more cubic feet of space in the back seat area AND in the hatchback (yes, it's a hatchback, not a trunk) was huge for us. We currently have a Jeep with a V8 and run about 14mph to the gallon. When I ran the numbers, I actually chose the Prius simply for economic reasons and found the carbon emission benefit an added plus. The CNN article I mentioned suggests it would take about 4.2 years or so to pay for the premium placed on the hybrid cost. However, that does NOT take into account state tax rebates, assumes the driver puts 15k on his/her car (the average is probably higher for most of us on the west coast) and that the price of gas stays in a certain range, so, it might likely be more in the 2-3 year range for us to hit the magic equivalency "requirement". Since this is a Toyota, we honestly assume we'll have this car for 10-15 years. With that in mind, it's hard for me to imagine why everyone doesn't own a Prius as their main in-city/commuter car. In all honesty, I'm not surprised it's the car of choice in the Bay Area and in our area of OR; it makes financial and environmental sense for most, especially if the price of gas does move back up near $4.00 a gallon and stays there for awhile. When that happens again, you better hope you have your name on a waiting list :)

$200-$500 over invoice would be reasonable targets, depending on where you live. East coast prices seem to be a little lower than West coast prices.

th79nc....I am in Central Oregon and still shopping. The Coscto dealer in Salem gave me a price of $500 below MSRP and the Costco dealer in Bend was $1400 below MSRP. The Costco dealer in Torrance, Ca., was $500 over Toyota invoice. Same for the dealer in Denver. I haven't gotten around to checking out who the Costco dealer is in Sacramento. I am also getting a bid from the fleet manager at our local Hertz outlet. I should hear back from him next week. Fitzmall in Maryland is $200 over invoice and is the price standard as far as I am concerned. If I can get that price somewhere out west, I would jump on it. I am also in the process of selling my wife's car which will be replaced by the RAV. I suggest you get the best price and then mention the college rebate. That probably comes from Toyota so the dealer should pass that on automatically regardless of the deal you make.

Hi bsawaroop, Where can you get the RAV4 in Portland for only $700 over invoice? I contacted the dealer in Portland that has the Costco account and they told me the RAV4s are in short supply and the price would be near MSRP. Hogwash. I live in Central Oregon and can actually justify flying to the East Coast and dealing with Fitzgeralds. I have a daughter in Denver who I visit so since it is halfway (almost) to the East Coast I could just be out the plane fare (approx $200) and then drive west to Denver to visit and then back home. I bet you had to haggle a lot to get $700 over invoice. We are talking 06 aren't we?

Is Toyota violating any laws with their willingness to take deposits on the SE and then ignore the customer for months? Any lawyers out there willing to comment on this line of reasoning? I'm no lawyer but I'd throw your complaint out of the court. Supply and demand are only half controlled by Toyota. They have a supply they are able to physically meet and if there is an unusually large demand then normally that simply drives up the price. If they have their factory making the maximum number of cars possible I think you're being unreasonable. My assumption would be that the deposit gets you in line and keeps someone from getting "yours". Some dealers on the TCH have not taken deposits, but when the car hit the lot it was first come with no holds. I prefer the deposit method. In that case if you feel that way you can probably go to a GM dealer and get what you want sitting on the lot OR they can make it for you in 4 weeks assuming the plant is still open. Complaining about build quality or bad service is one thing, compaining because you want a car they can't make enough of is another.