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Subaru of Wichita

1633 N Rock Rd
Wichita, KS 67206
(316) 636-1777

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Re: 2006 WRX STI [mpatil]: by locke2c on Tue Feb 07 07:57:50 PST 2006; I would suggest driving an Evo before you make a $30,000 decision.. The MIVEC system is new on the Evo for 2006, but I haven't driven one. I don't have any daily driveability concerns about my 2003 Evo but I wouldn't mind having variable valve timing. :) ~Colin

Re: Price [ateixeira]: by locke2c on Wed Jan 25 07:55:38 PST 2006; The Forester XT 5 speed manual also has much more aggressive gearing than the WRX 5 speed manual. Drive them back to back; the WRX's 3rd gear is a ton "taller". It's geared like a Civic for an attempt at gas economy... which largely was unsuccesful in my opinion. ~Colin

Re: Price [ateixeira]: by locke2c on Wed Jan 25 07:19:30 PST 2006; No, it's actually not.. unless you never use more than 1/3 of the gas pedal and thereby avoid ever making positive boost. ~Colin

Re: NEED ADVICE WITH 2005 WRX WAGON [raybear]: by locke2c on Wed Jan 25 07:12:55 PST 2006; well let's see... 1) it's a model-year old 2) the current model has cosmetic changes. (I'm not sure if they are improvements, hehe.) 3) the current model has a much nicer 2.5L turbocharged engine I'd say #3 is the biggest reason. ~Colin

Re: 06 STI vs EVO IX [shrink2]: by locke2c on Mon Jan 23 07:12:11 PST 2006; the un-named Evo trim here in the US and Canada is effectively the GSR trim level everywhere else. Sorry for the confusion! ~Colin

Re: 06 STI vs EVO IX [shrink2]: by locke2c on Fri Jan 20 13:00:20 PST 2006; here's my comments from 2 years ago... everything still applies except the Additional Dealer Markup on the Evo MR. You can easily get either car for under MSRP if you look around; there are a few clueless dealers still trying to get premiums for these cars, but they are in the minority. oh wait I see another thing but am not going to bother to re-author... the "Patti factor" is now gone for Subaru. :( ______ they are very similar cars, although the 3 trims of Evo now available versus just one STi does muddy the comparision a bit. my opinions are sprinkled in among some measured facts. I am comparing 2005 models --Evo just now available-- but drive an '03 Evo (GSR). common features: - plenty of power with both doing 13.3-13.5 second quartermile under magazine test conditions. under less abusive real-world driving, they're not as fast due to avoiding harsh AWD launches. - 'in your face' styling - suspension that is heavily handling biased and offers little ride comfort - no near-luxo features - both* have HID headlamps - acceptable fuel mileage for the HP delivered - noisy, harsh-riding, super sticky summer-only original equipment tires - unbelivably powerful brakes (same Brembo calipers on both cars) - excellent visibility compared to other sporty cars due to lots of glass and the tall rallycar stance (compare with 350Z and RX-8) company differences: - Subaru has never been remotely as large as Mitsubishi, but Mitsubishi's size is definitely not an advantage when they have tremendous debt and rapidly fading brand image. If Mitsubishi were anything but a semi-nationalized Japanese company they would have folded / sold long ago, but I'm not sure that they are going anywhere just yet. - Mitsubishi reliability is at least as good as Subaru (headgaskets anyone?), but they are extremely aggressive about denying warranty on vehicles that are raced, have been modified, etc in the event you do have a problem. Subaru as a company is better about it, and weighing in the "Patti" factor there's no comparison. Evo RS: - unreal performance for only $28,199. - no sound deadening, no trunk lining, no HID headlights, no wing, no ABS, no power locks, no power windows. - no resale value IMO because of the above, except to young sportcompact enthusiasts or real rally- / road-racers. - narrower seats fit drivers below 200lb better than the STi seats - aftermarket cruise control can be added for about $300. mine (Rostra) is much better than nothing but not near as good as OEM. - much more neutral handling than the STi, whose pronounced understeer is felt under hard cornering - ultra-quick steering with good road feel - larger and more sophisticated turbocharger than the STi uses, but 19.5psi doesn't arrive until 3,500 rpm. - truly useable backseat that is Subaru Legacy-sized. - gas tank is a bit small at 14.0 gallons and is at least a gallon smaller than the Impreza. - five speed gearbox is perfect for all but extended high speed highway use (about 3400 rpm at 80) Evo GSR changes from RS: - at $30,499 it offers everything that the STi does except DCCD and a six speed, for about $2,000 less. - in my opinion, the hood vent is a lot more attractive and less obnoxious than the STi's hood scoop. - hood vent is functional; massive heat waves can readily be seen as it is just over the turbocharger and air flows through the grille / radiator and then out the vent. - interior is simple but does not look cheap in my opinion (look in a regular Lancer, hehe). Evo MR changes from GSR: - at $34,999 it is a poor value. - ADM is likely, but if you hunt around enough you can probably find one for MSRP. unfortunately that is still not a fair price to me for this trim level. - while it might be functional, I find the rear diffuser (comb-looking device at the top of the rear glass) to be ugly and unnecessary. - gunmetal wheels do nothing for me, but they are forged aluminum like the STi wheels. - six speed is very similar to STi, which is to say it will be a bit annoying in normal driving but nice to turn a few hundred RPM less at 80+ MPH on the highway. - active center differential has tarmac, gravel and snow modes. many purchasers will use the vehicle only on tarmac, but it is roughly equivalent to the STi's DCCD. - no active yaw control rear differential like the Japanese and European market Evo GSR and MR have. WRX STi - $32,295 is a decent price, but you can have one for invoice or a few hundred over, which makes it very competitive with Evo GSR and MR. - considerably better torque than the Evo below 3,500 rpm-- only relevant in normal commuting/driving. doesn't matter at all when driving hard. - DCCD's auto mode is probably better than the Evo MR's tarmac setting but it is overall less intuitive for users. many people would not know to set 50/50 in gravel and in heavy snow use 50/50 locked, even if it is suggested in the owner's manual. - steering feel and speed improved for '05 but still lags behind the Evo - wider sport seats are better for larger frames - back seat is tight - you either love or you hate the tall hood scoop. the wings on both cars are pretty wild. - standard side airbags if you care. I don't. ______ whew. :) ~Colin

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