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New 2005 GTO Price in SF: by sammy15 on Sun Jun 25 16:52:54 PDT 2006; SF dealer with 5 new MT '06 GTOs list them at $32,685 and $33,165 (with 18 in wheels) before $700 destination. Seems to me you should be able to bargain maybe $1,000 to $2,000 lower. Say $1,500 less is good, then they go for $31,185 and $31,685 (w/ 18" wheels) before dest charges. Now they have also one new leftover AUTO Cyclone Grey GTO with 18" wheels. MSRP is like $34,800 including the $700 destination and the $1,300 gas guzzler tax. (Remember GM lowered MSRP ~$1,000 on '06.) Dealer has best buy sale on the new '05 for $28,995. WHAT IS IT WORTH? I was guessing $25,000 + $700 dest + $1,300 gas tax = $27,000 is fair. No clue whether dealer would take it. Is $28,000 reasonable? What about the incentives? Various different websites say $500, $750 & 1,000. Should that be factored in? I have GM CARD Earnings, which should save me $1,000 according to GMCARD.COM. I will also buy front mesh grills ($235 - $270)and smokers package ($100 - $140) and maybe emergency car kit ($65 - $75) Finally, if I go with sunroof (hope it doesn't reduce headspace too much as I am 6'4"), should I have dealer do it and at what cost ($1,100?) or find an authorized Westgo dealer to install it at what cost - $1,200?

Re: Update report 1 year + 15,000 miles [rmozol]: by rayainsw on Mon Jun 05 11:36:41 PDT 2006; I am truly sorry to hear of the bad experience you had with the previous gen. M45. I certainly do not mean to suggest that the GXP is �better� than the M45. I was referring here specifically to the fact that the new gen. M45 has been consistently tested and published by the print media as a fairly quick ( 4000#+ ) Sedan � Generally in the high 13s to very low 14s � at close to or over 100 MPH. It is the only one in the class (as I define it) that is quicker than the GXP. Quarter mile & 0 � 60 times clearly do not completely describe the driving experience of any car. But the acceleration feel I have with this GXP is something I do not want to give up next time around. I drove 3 new M45 Sports last year, and I believe the published acceleration numbers. The only two 2003 M45 tests I could find show ( MT ) 14.4 @ 96.3 and ( R&T ) 14.6 @ 97. MT�s test of the new M45 = 14.1 @ 98.8, and R&T = 13.8 @ 104. Point being, the new one is substantially quicker. One goal for my next automotive purchase is to (at least) match the acceleration of my GXP, and add an additional level of refinement & amenities. Without spending (quite all of) my daughter�s inheritance. The M45 has at least equal acceleration (partly a function of aggressive gearing) to the GXP, and availability of some additional items I�d find interesting & useful. I also found the new M45 Sport to be a fun car to drive. IMHO. Cheers, - Ray Addicted to Fun!

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