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Re: 350Z Touring Edition 5A $34,690 MSRP [johnl617]
by biancar on Tue Aug 21 15:20:46 PDT 2007
What's traffic like? Are you buying this to drive or to race? If you're buying to drive and have a fair amount of traffic, you'll be happier with auto. Remember there's a manu-matic sort of thing so you can shift the gears for yourself if you want, even with an auto. Honestly shifting with a manual is a lot of fun on twisty country roads where there's little or no traffic. It gets old fast if you're in a major urban area with a lot of stop and go driving. With the automatic, you get basically the best of both worlds - or at least 90% of the best, since it's not quite like a true manual.
Re: Nissan of Chantilly [fmayberry]
by poohsavybear on Mon Mar 31 17:57:02 PDT 2008
fmayberry - I don't know about them being hungry. What I do know is that the ownership of the dealership just changed over within the last week/week and a half. Apparently under the old ownership (Victory Nissan - they also have stores in the DC/VA Beach area) the store wasn't performing up to par not only in sales but in customer service. Nissan actually booted them and asked Hall (reputable Hall Nissan in Hampton Roads - VA Beach, Newport News, Chesapeake, etc. of 35 years) to take over and clean house. Hall had sold his stores in Hampton Roads to Herb Gordon/Mile One (the are also in the DC area). Hall is basically going to work his business process magic he did in Hampton Roads to Nissan of Chantilly and is opening other dealerships in the DC area. He brought one of his GM's from another store who is ranked like #3 within Nissan and that GM has brought much of his staff, etc. which included the salesman and Sales Manager that I worked with. So given the change over has just occurred, I'm sure they are still working out all the kinks/processes, etc. With over a dozen Nissan dealers in the DC/Baltimore metro area - you can find a deal especially at the end of the month touting I can buy the Murano at X dealer for $600 under invoice. Sheehy Annapolis said they were selling their Muranos for $1000 over invoice and if I could get it for $600 under I should go there - which I did. If you walk into the dealership - you should be an informed buyer. A lot of the dealers' online websites give you their internet price so you know what they will sell the car for with room in their holdback. I know that Chantilly's processing fee was high and in my post I recommend you negotiate lowering that into the price of the car especially when MD dealers charge $99. Their contracts are already preprinted with the processing fee but if it's taken into account in the price then it's the same thing. When we made the deal online for the SL - it was for $600 under invoice and matching the $99 processing fee for buying in MD. Given the SL had gotten sold, I was offered an excellent deal on the LE that we would've been stupid to walk away from. Yes it was the end of the month but I was well educated and the Sales Manager was fully aware of it. I didn't "need" to buy the car so I didn't have a problem to walk if I wasn't happy with the deal. But you are right - there are enough dealers in the DC area that are offering the car at/under invoice that others are going to have to follow suit - at least for those of us that are smart/educated by going online and doing research, etc. I'm giving my experience in return as a thanks from learning from everyone else before I conducted my sale. I'm sure doing it at the end of Nissan's 50th anniversary sale also helped. When we bought our 07 Maxima - our best quote was from Passport Alexandria - the Sales Manager told me to get my quotes and he would be the lowest one by $500 - and he did....my contract showed the low price listed as the rebate yet I was still able to use the special APR financing - stipulations usually say one or the other - not both. The dealers can work their magic - there are incentives, etc to the dealer that we don't see other than the holdback which is still just an estimate at 2.75% of MSRP. We bought the Maxima at the end of Nov 2006. One last piece of advice - it's not necessarily how much the dealer makes per car, it's overall sales as well as overall number of cars sold. Based on how the dealership has done for the month, the GM or Sales Manager will have to let some cars go just to meet the "number of cars sold" for the month. Goodluck to all - I can't believe how luxurious our new Murano is!!! :o)
Re: Why No Sunroof on 350Z? [ksphere]
by biancar on Wed Jul 18 12:39:33 PDT 2007
No moonroof because you can always buy the roadster - biggest moon/sun-roof possible!
Re: thanks [scrugh_77]
by biancar on Sat Jun 30 07:03:36 PDT 2007
Have you driven either or both of them yet? Sounds like you're analyzing them logically, on paper, pros and cons. Which is good, that gives you a starting point. The G35 looks like the mid-priced option of the 3 possibilities. MSRP starting prices, depending on options: Z coupe: high 20's to low 30's G35: mid 30's. Z roadster: mid 30's to very high 30's, poss. low 40's for GT edition (I know that's not what you want, just saying what the range is). Try driving each one, preferably on the same day, and see what you think. Check out dealers' inventory on line. Some dealers do a much better job of being clear as to what they have; some just slap on the Nissan or Infiniti information page and don't indicate at all what they've got in stock. My preference would be for the ones that are clear about what they've got. Indicates a more straight-forward, less game-playing, mind set of doing business.
Re: true [scrugh_77]
by biancar on Fri Jun 29 09:00:59 PDT 2007
Well, since you're posting in a Z thread.... you're going to get a biased opinion here!! I love my Z roadster and had no interest in a coupe of any sort. But since you're asking, here's a couple or three things to consider: this is a non-essential purchase, for you, right? As a second car I'm assuming it doesn't have to be as practical as your first car. So do you want to make this decision by emotion or by logic? By fun or by practicality? If by emotion: which car makes you smile when you look at it and drive it? Which car makes you think "Ooh, baby, this is one sweet ride!" If by logic: do you often need to drive with more than one passenger? Do you often need to drive it in winter weather? If so you will need to get a second set of tires for the Z, possibly can get by with all-seasons on the G35, depending where you live. My car stays in the garage if temps are below 40 (I've got summer high-performance tires on it). Look at the trunk space. For me, I think the roadster's trunk is just fine for what I need. (Note that the coupe has that bar across the inside which can make loading a little more difficult.) I can fit in an airline-sized carry-on suitcase plus a duffel bag, or about a dozen bags of groceries. But I can't usually use this car for a Home Depot run. So, do you need more space than that, or will that be enough for you most of the time for a second car? My bias is, don't get a coupe at all, get the Z roadster (touring) if you live in a place where you can enjoy it at least nine months of the year. (Not that I want to make your decision even more complicated, of course!! ;)
Re: reply [scrugh_77]
by biancar on Thu Jun 28 06:03:08 PDT 2007
Well, OK, I get the not making it luxurious and comfortable part - but traction control has to do with basic safety. Doesn't matter if it's a second car or not. (Mine is a second car too.) Personally I think they shouldn't even sell the base model as currently equipped; I wish they didn't sell any model without traction control. Wish they would include that on the base model, with interior as is, and then the folks who also want the leather interior and what-not can step up to touring if they want, but everyone will have that basic protection. I've read in the my350z.com forum about too many serious accidents to be "oh well, so what" about the base model. Your choice of course, just something you might do well to keep in mind.

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