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my2kidsdriver: DAMN, that really SUCKS!
by rickc5 on Sun Jul 18 15:17:47 PDT 2004
We've had our 2004 since April, and have not had as much a single hiccup. This thing has been perfect. It now has over 4000 miles on it, and it runs better than when new. Please let us know what the dealer finds as the source of your problem. Also, if I were you, I would put your dealer on notice that should you encounter ANOTHER unexpected catastrophic failure, you EXPECT a different van. You shouldn't have to put up with what may turn out to be a lemon.
my2kidsdriver: Power Doors
by rickc5 on Wed Jul 14 17:19:28 PDT 2004
Before we bought our 2004 ES, I would have agreed with your assessment about power doors: Don't need them. Now that we have them, we really like them. THREE buttons for each door that open or close them. NICE! We wish the rear door was powered too! LOL!
bigdadi: Odyssey observations
by rickc5 on Sat Apr 03 16:15:08 PST 2004
I also noticed that many Ody owners were complaining about their transmissions. To make matters worse, there is no quick fix for those problems, just new transmissions. Not good. The $3K price difference I mentioned was with the local Honda dealer offering $2500 off the MSRP price of the Ody. Yes, there was noticeably more room in the Ody (and I'm sure the Sienna too) than the MPV. But, we have no kids, and all that extra room also equated to a larger, more cumbersome vehicle to drive and park. Having been able to drive the Ody and MPV back-to-back, the engine performance seemed totally equal. Any benefit that the Honda may have gained from a larger, more powerful engine (on paper) was offset by the extra 600 lbs of weight the Honda hauls around. We just filled our MPV for the third time today and got 23.3 MPG, which seems really exciting to us, after owning a Ford Expedition, which never got better than 14 MPG.
MPV vs. Sienna vs. Odyssey
by rickc5 on Sat Apr 03 08:43:03 PST 2004
For us, the Sienna was not even on the radar screen. In our opinion, it is horribly expensive (overpriced), without providing that much more value. We drove the ES MPV back-to-back against an EX Odyssey in the same afternoon. Again, in our opinion, the MPV offered more "bang for the buck" than the Ody, which would have been at least $3000 more (a comparable Sienna would have cost even more). In addition, the MPV seemed more luxurious, handled much better, came with more standard features, and was built in Japan. We also didn't require all the extra space the Ody provided. Plus, Honda doesn't offer anything like the 4-Seasons Package or an in-dash six CD changer. Sure, Mazda is offering smokin' deals to move their vehicles off the lot, but so are many other manufacturers (like the Ford Freestar), except Toyota. I hope Dano comes back to this forum in a few months and gives us a first-hand report on how the Sienna truly compares to the MPV in the real world. Good luck, Dano.
Got a good deal on a new ES yesterday
by rickc5 on Fri Mar 12 14:29:24 PST 2004
We live in Aurora, CO, a suburb of Denver. I used Edmunds to contact six local Mazda dealers for quotes. After many emails and a few phone calls, we bought a new silver ES from a small dealer in Longmont (Mazda of Longmont). It has the options we wanted, and is a color we liked. Most dealers wanted invoice plus a few hundred dollars, and then were going to add $300-360 for their "admin fee". The Longmont dealer sold us the ES for invoice, and NO admin fee. In addition, the van was undercoated by the dealer, which makes it much quieter on the highway. All-in-all, a pleasant buying experience that only took about 45 minutes, including the sales manager's "tour" of the vehicle before we drove off. If you live close enough in Colorado, give Mazda of Longmont a try.

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