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Re: 2009 Kia Optima EX w/no packages [mohatu]
by backy on Mon May 18 12:20:27 PDT 2009
No, you didn't miss something.. obviously the dealer HOPED you'd miss something. ;)
Re: 2008 Optima LX 4 Dr AT PW PL AC CD CC under $12700 OTD [csandste]
by backy on Tue Jan 13 20:51:27 PST 2009
You should feel good about the deal you got. It cost more than the basic Optima the other buyer bought, but you have a lot more equipment on your car, so it should cost more. Try to get a comparably equipped new mid-sized car anywhere close to $16k even in today's rotten car market. And if you use up that 10-year warranty and drive the car into the ground, who cares about depreciation?
Re: 2008 Optima LX 4 Dr AT PW PL AC CD CC under $12700 OTD [csandste]
by backy on Tue Jan 13 20:20:10 PST 2009
You bought a Kia, and you are worried about resale? The sad fact is, Kias in general depreciate pretty rapidly, and unless an Optima has the safety gear that has become commonplace in the mid-sized class now--and standard on the 2009 Optima--namely ABS, traction control, and ESC, it will be hard for them to hold value. Fortunately, there have been great deals on the 06.5+ Optima almost since it arrived, although it's hard to beat the deal that was just posted. I don't know if you can even get a basic Accent or Rio for much less than that these days.
Re: 2008 Optima EX V6 [timmboj]
by backy on Tue Oct 28 23:15:02 PDT 2008
$500 off before rebates is not much these days, as there's at least $1500 (approx.) markup over invoice on that car, plus holdback and possibly other incentives. And it's a closeout on a model that is being refreshed for 2009. Plus the V6 Optimas aren not nearly as popular as the I4s--I've seen 2007 V6s sitting on dealer lots even now. So if I were them I'd shoot for at least another $1000 off or so. If they are not good at negotiating, they should either take someone with them who is good at it, or use a buying service (like Costco).
Re: Reliability [ksmigel]
by backy on Thu Sep 25 13:11:48 PDT 2008
As far as the I4 powertrain, they are the same (Optima for 2009 catches up with the 2009 Sonata in the engine department) so there should be no difference in reliability there. But the two cars are made in different factories, and have different V6s. CR rates the Sonata I4 "much better than average", the V6 average, and the Optima overall better than average (doesn't distinguish between I4 and V6 there).
Re: Backy [tjdepere2004]
by backy on Wed Sep 17 12:20:08 PDT 2008
Yep, I've seen Planet Hyundai's ads in Las Vegas before, when I've been there. I've read the fine print on the ads too (hard as that was to do). Here's all I have to say about those prices: :P (If there were an Emotorcon for "utter disbelief", I would have used it.)

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