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Re: deal on 08? [casolorz]
by verdugo on Mon Nov 19 21:13:29 PST 2007
Very nice. Go for it. Sounds like a really good deal. And since there's no trade involved, they are not making the profit there. Good for you. Are you getting the 4.7L or the 5.7L? It's probably the 5.7L since it's hard to find the 4.7L in stock. I had to factory order mine. By the way, it only took 4 weeks from order time to delivery and I'm in Sacramento, CA.
Re: Should I buy an early build 08? [sunbeeb]
by verdugo on Mon Oct 29 11:16:11 PDT 2007
Thanks for the reply. The '08 had several things that I wanted that the 07 didn't have -- HID lights, MyGig, and nicer interior. The 08s currently have a promotion for free Mygig + Navigation ($792 value), which brings the rebates between the 08s and 07s a lot closer. I ended up placing a factory order for a Limited 4x4 with the new 4.7L engine. Took about a month from the time I ordered to delivery (I'm in Sacramento, CA). I picked it up last week and I'm very happy with it. The price was invoice. No negotiating. There wasn't a trade involved.
Should I buy an early build 08?
by verdugo on Sun Sep 09 22:35:19 PDT 2007
Hello. I have a question I hope you will be able to help me. I'm interested in buying an 08 Limited. I'm in Sacramento, CA and for some reason there are very few 08's around. My dealer located one nearby and he can do a delaer trade. The price is good (invoice minus rebates), but I'm hesitant because it's one of the first ones produced. The VIN ends in 8C101524. I'm just afraid that with such an early build they didn't have a chance to work out all the bugs/gremlins/etc. I am in no hurry to buy, but I do want to take advantage of the current rebates. Should I get this one or wait for a more recent build? Also, what do you think about the price? TIA, Angel
5% Invoice Price Cut on Leftover '05's?
by anduril on Sun Nov 13 23:37:38 PST 2005
...into the parts department of a Jeep dealership in the Sacramento area, where I live, on Sat. to inquire about trailer hitch accessories for the new Laredo I bought in IA two weeks ago (see my post #282). Nice sunny and warm weekend afternoon - the kind that usually brings out buyers. The showroom was empty and there was only one "up" on the lot, so I engaged a salesman killing time and asked about incentives currently available on '05's still in inventory. I asked, "In addition to the direct customer rebates that DC is currently offering customers on '05 models, is the manufacturer providing any incentive to dealers?" He said, "Yes." I then asked if the incentive is a 5% reduction in the invoice cost and he replied that he didn't know, but reiterated that an incentive exists in some form. It's my understanding that most auto manufacturers grant Edmunds access to internal company Web sites where manufacturer-to-dealer incentives are listed. Edmunds then consolidates this information and posts it. However, Edmunds does not list any such incentive (i.e., marketing support) on ’05 JGC's at the present time. But other incentives that not even Edmunds has access to can exist. In fact, before the days of direct customer rebates a 5% (of MSRP) discount by U.S. and most foreign auto makers was common practice at the end of the model year. Dunno for certain, but based on my buying experience and that of a few others on this board since the end of Employee Pricing, I suspect that that is the case today, even with the juicy customer rebates. (That should tell you how slow business really is!) So, when determining the current invoice price of an '05 left in dealer inventory, as well as a reasonable purchase price, I suggest you make the following calculations: adjusted invoice price = Edmunds invoice - 5% of MSRP (with the destination charge included) purchase price = adjusted invoice price x 1.03 – direct manufacturer-to-customer rebates For argument’s sake I assume that a 3% (of invoice) profit, before rebates are applied, is fair and reasonable. Offer 4% if you feel generous, but with a 3% profit your salesman shouldn’t try to work you to death over incidental dealer costs and regional charges, like advertising. (And note that the dealer still gets the usual holdbacks.) Of course, you can try to work deals even closer to invoice. That’s your decision. After all, bus is competitive and slow, and you won’t embarrass yourself in the store if you try. So...what evidence do I have for a 5% end-of-model-year discount on leftover ‘05’s? Only circumstantial and, yes, the discount could - repeat, could - be greater than 5%. A message posted last week on the Lease Questions discussion board in this forum described a deal with a 2.5% profit by my calculations. (See my posts #8 and #10 on that board.) Furthermore, when I bought my Laredo two weeks ago my dealer offered a purchase price, before rebates, nearly $680 below Edmunds' invoice. That left the store with about 3.7% profit, not including holdbacks. I didn't even ask for the discount and, yes, I might have been able to negotiate a slightly better price (by $100-$200, say), rather than accept the offer. (Sigh.) I did insist that the store waive its usual doc fee and it did - reluctantly. Bottom line: just about anyone who can fog a mirror should be able to get a great deal on a leftover ’05 if he or she assumes that, in addition to the direct customer rebates, a manufacturer-to-dealer incentive in the form of an invoice price cut, say 5% of MSRP, also exists.
Re: Good Dealers in Los Angeles [jeepinla]
by bob_graham on Sun Mar 27 23:15:34 PST 2005
Try the dealer in Woodland CA near Sacramento. It may be worth the ride. Just call them and ask for the fleet manager. Here is our deal completed overthe phone. No funny business. Just an update: The Jeep drives flawlessly. Reminds us of our Lexus RX300. Its very smooth. The buying experience was excellent. The dealer spent an hour on a Sunday night going thru all of the features. They did not rush us. HOBLIT-HAYNES DODGE CHRYSLER JEEP 801 MAIN STREET WOODLAND, CA 95695-3596 2005 Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 V-8 GPS 6 disk CD Supplemental side air bags Rear Backup system Sirius Satellite radio Tire Prssure monitor Popular 4X4 group Chrome Clad Wheels Sticker - $41,815 Cost $38,502.00 fees $45.00 Fees $8.75 Sub $38,555.75 Rebates $3,500.00 Net $35,055.75 Sales Tax $3,180.85 Lisc $311.00 Total $38,547.60 I added full maintenance plan for 5 years / 75K service every 6K minles and Max Care extended warranty for 5/85K Cost $2160 for both plans. $12160 down payment. 48 months @ 5.99% 670/month

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