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Re: Multiple Security Deposits [brodway]: by kyfdx on Fri May 16 04:43:12 PDT 2008; My point is simple, just because you don't have a secrurity deposit in place doesn't mean you cant be sued or are off the hook for what you owe. If that is your point, then no one was arguing with you.. :) My points were: 1) Your insurance company is going to pay fair market value if you total the car. On a lease, with nothing down, this is likely to be far less than the balance owed to the leasing company. Not possibly... likely.. 2) GAP insurance is only going to pay the leasing company what they say is the shortage. If you and the leasing company disagree, hopefully you have an attorney on retainer. 3) If the leasing company chooses to use your MSDs to lower the payoff of the lease, before applying GAP, see #2 about needing an attorney. Is it supposed to work that way? Of course not. But, we've already had ancedotal evidence of that very thing. In the meantime, they have your money, and you don't. regards, kyfdx

Re: Multiple Security Deposits [qbrozen]: by kyfdx on Thu May 15 12:22:16 PDT 2008; I agree... it doesn't make sense, but very scant evidence from anyone that has had it happen.. Everyone on BimmerFest says you get them back... but, they are only using common sense (rare commodity in insurance circles...) I've yet to hear a real-world example from anyone over there..

Re: Multiple Security Deposits [qbrozen]: by kyfdx on Thu May 15 09:01:49 PDT 2008; Sales tax savings.... If you live in a state that just taxes the monthly payment each month, then you'd definitely save money, if the payment is lower... regards, kyfdx

Re: Multiple Security Deposits [qbrozen]: by kyfdx on Thu May 15 09:00:21 PDT 2008; Scenario: Lease car for $40K... making $4K in MSDs One month later, car is totaled. Insurance company values car at $35K. IFS says payoff is $35,500... ($39,500 - $4000 security deposit) Shortage of $500 covered by GAP insurance. $4000 in MSDs gone. Call your insurance agent: "We paid fair market value for the car, what you owe on it is not our concern". (no diffferent than if you had a loan) Call GAP insurance carrier: "We cover the difference between what the insurance company pays and what IFS says you owe." Call IFS: "Your security deposits are security to make sure we get paid. That's what we used them for." Of course, the last statement from IFS is the sticky one... You know and I know that isn't how it is supposed to be structured, but when there are three other parties involved, the buck can be passed, indefinitely.. Now... IFS or your dealer aren't going to look for ways to keep your deposit when you turn your lease in, at end of term.. You'll owe what you owe, regardless. But, in the event of totaling your car, I wouldn't bet on getting them back. That doesn't make it right.. and this might not ever happen, but I don't think you'll find anyone at IFS that will guarantee that for you. regards, kyfdx

Re: M35X / 2008 / Tech / Nav [nycdude]: by kyfdx on Fri May 09 11:23:57 PDT 2008; BMW guys say they can do the MSD thing by buying in NJ, even though they live in NY.. Technically, your security deposit shouldn't be at risk.. But, once the insurance company and the leasing bank start talking about payoffs, almost anything can happen.. I've yet to hear a definitive "you can never lose that deposit, due to accident".

Re: M35S with Technology Package/Sport Package April 30 2008 [ghstudio]: by kyfdx on Mon May 05 14:03:52 PDT 2008; Even with states that require the tax payment upfront, you can still roll it in. The leasing bank pays the tax for you, and adds it to the CAP cost. The state gets their money upfront and everyone is happy.. :) regards, kyfdx

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