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Fitzmall is the real deal!
by jim1299 on Fri May 09 16:32:11 PDT 2008
Other than the document prep fee, the price listed is what you pay before TTL. They may be high volume enough to be in another holdback category than most dealerships. (Makes sense, since they are a multi-state network.) Note that they offer three price levels-- and their Internet (barebones) price posted on-line may be lower than the "Internet" price on the sticker, depending on how long the car has been on the lot. I found them willing to go with the current 'Net price if you're savvy enough to know it-- and in my case I didn't even encounter a hard sell about extended warranty, gap insurance, or the other 'closer' routines. I know what your husband means about "requirements creep", both professionally and because last month when I went into Fitzgerald looking for an '08 I4 I drove out in an '09 Limited V-6. Got an absolutely crazy deal on it, too -- $20282 before TTL ($21005 OTD. This was in early April, when the rebate was only $1000). Like you, I had another dealership say the price was too low to be true and would likely rise when I went to close the deal. Believe the car --which was the showroom model-- may have been mis-priced or a notional 'loss leader', since '09 Limited I4's out on the lot were going for the $20765 price you cited. Mine was barebones- but for that price I'll gladly buy my own floor mats and mud flaps. :P
Re: Hyundai GLS 08 Help [jwarrio]
by bluedevil7321 on Sat Apr 12 08:44:24 PDT 2008
I am in NY. I actually mis-understood their quote I guess. When they said $14,996 they meant for the Elantra. It is $15890 for the Sonata without the Leather and I am trying to get them to go down to 16,490 w/ the leather before the trade-in. I also have a quote for an 09 GLS Pop package $17,795 These are my choices Sonata GLS 09 any color, w/pop package $17,795 Sonata GLS 08 Silver w/ Gray Leather w/pop package $16,490 Elantra SE 08 Any color $14,996
Re: Hyundai Elantra 2008 GLS [wiesman]
by jfritsch on Fri Apr 04 07:04:21 PDT 2008
OTD isn't very descriptive, as taxes and dealer fees can vary from $100 -1100+ on the car dependent on state. If you paid a fair amount of tax that is an excellent deal. Really don't know why you would want to buy a extended warranty on a new Hyundai, with 100kmi powertrain and 6/60000 mi on everything. Just purchased a Hyundai Elantra 2008 GLS for $13,100 out the door. Automatic with power package. MSRP of $17,000. Purchased from Fairfax (Virginia) Hyundai. Did I get a good price? The one issue that I had was that I wanted to purchase a Hyundai extended warrenty. We negoitated a $1100 price. Then when we went to sign the paper work I discoverd they they had switched me to a third party warrenty. Beware. What should I be paying for a Hyundai extended warrenty??? Please let me know your experience. Thanks Ron
Re: New Santa Fe in Colorado [rjr2565]
by brookeville on Sun Mar 30 15:36:33 PDT 2008
Dear denvertracker: If you bought the LTD Santa Fe AWD with trading in a 96 Sable and a $2K rebate I think you just set a "best deal ever" negotiation! CONGRATS! You will LOVE your Hyundai Santa Fe! I bought a 2007 SE AWD 3.3ltr V6 with no trade and paid $26K including Tax & Tags & out the door and thought that was a good deal. I live in Maryland Metro DC area and early in 2007 the Hyundai brand REALLY took off! My only slight let-down is a slightly lower than desired fuel economy of about 19.2 MPG around town and about 24 HWY. Was hoping for just a wee bit better based upon renting a Sonata and getting an approx 28mpg (forgot that Santa Fe is almost 600lbs heavier - oopps!). Funny but during the first 1000 mi break-in I took pains to keep it at 55 mph and was getting about 22 mpg combined. No matter I would do it AGAIN in a minute! Good luck! :D
Clarification / Feedback...
by cargain on Fri Dec 28 19:12:26 PST 2007
Hey Guys, Firstly, thanks for everyone posting your experiences it's definitely comforting to know what others success in this nerve-racking venture has been. I stopped by the dealership tonight and feel like I was severely jerked around, so wanted to post what occurred and get others' feedback to see if I am expecting too much. I am looking for a '08 Sonata Limited (I4, due to gas prices and cost) Trading in my "Good" condition, '04 Elantra GT My thoughts going in: Invoice Pricing on an '08 I4 Sonata is $21,710 after destination charge. TMV Pricing (on 12/28) is: $23,014. I settled on a figure of roughly $22,300 for the car based on these two figures. For my trade in, I figured I would get $5900. Edmunds used car appraisal is: "Clean" (Most matching description) - $6,323 "Average" - $5,420 Kelly Blue Book (for Dealer Trade-In) is: "Good" (Most matching description) - $6935 "Fair" - $6,030 So based on all the above figured and to ensure there were not many issues with my expectations on what to expect for my Trade-In, I set the number at $5,900. With that being said, I went in and met with the sales man. We walked the lot and determined there was a Sonata present that met what I was looking for. We went back to his desk to discuss the deal. He initially had me fill out a short paper with some information on it and he went to have my trade-in evaluated. After returning the deal he provided me was: $22,320 for the vehicle. $5000 for my trade. $1039 Tax $109 TTL He had ran my credit and as I suspected I did not qualify, he stated, for the 0%/72 month, but did qualify for a lower interest rate of 2.9% through HMFC on a 48 month term. He indicated the monthly payment would put me somewhere (I forget exact) around $450 per months. He stated in order to lock in this 2.9% interest rate that I would be required to put $4,500 down (to which any prior discussion around down payment I advised that I was not interested if at all possible in putting a down payment - so this was a bit of a shock!) I immediately advised him that I would not be able to put $4,500 down on the vehicle and again was more than satisfied with my own car and was only there to see if I could get in to the Sonata for a monthly payment not substantially higher than my current payment of $250.00 per month. He took this in and started reworking numbers with no down payment included and I advised him to use a 72 month term. With the reworked numbers he said it still came to above $450 per month. This is when I advised him we need to start breaking down the cost of the car and the trade-in. I asked about the vehicles price. Break down this figure. What is included in the $22,320. Where is the $1000 rebate? Where is the $500 Value Owner Coupon? Where is that in his equation. He stated these discounts were already applied to get to the $22,320 figure. Stop the boat. What? This is where I told him that, in essence, he is selling me the car then for the $22,320 price + $1,500 (rebate/coupon) = $23,820. Far above the $22,300 I aimed to purchase the car for. I told him this. He asked what numbers I had figured. I told him that invoice on the vehicle + destination charge was roughly $21,700. I said I figured to ensure that I am not asking for too much I would expect to pay $600 above invoice for $22,300. I told him THEN, I would receive my $1,500 in discounts giving me a final price of $20,800 for the car. NOT $22,320. I then told him that I thought $5,000 for the trade-in was substantially shy of what I figured to get. I told him that through the various appraisals I have had done and research I have performed I was looking to get higher than this. At this point I told him $6300 for the trade-in. He quickly scribbled through the $5000 figure and said he would go to $5,500. At this point he got up and left for a short time and came back with the numbers re-worked. Basically this occurred for about 15 minutes and the final deal he offered to me was: $22,320 for the vehicle (after the rebates and everything, so he basically did not discount the car at all) $5,500 for the trade He then stated on the last deal that it would be required to put $1,000 down to receive the 3.9% financing. He previously stated that I did not receive a $500 rebate through HMFC as I did not qualify for the 0%, but at this point later, indicated now I did and could put this toward the $1000 being required down, and pay $500 cash. I told him this was not an issue but I still did not feel I was getting a fair deal. I told him I would think about it, of course, with no intentions of doing so as the mis-matched stories of rebates and not and at one point in the conversation my girlfriend asked "Do you have to pay the sticker price on the car?" and he attempted to state that yes, you do. I told him that most people may do that, but with some research you can often find that the sticker price is a suggested retail price and not typically reflective of the price you can ultimately achieve with knowledge of the various dealer incentives and invoice pricing. I felt overall I was jerked around quite abit with sales tactics designed to confuse me with the various "requirements" to get the deal that was at that point being offered. Down payment required, then not. 2.9%, then 3.9%. Not clearly addressing where my rebate and value owner coupon is being applied, the inflated cost of the car and having a HMFC rebate or not. So I come her confused and frustrated. A) Were my original expectations too steep? B) Do you qualify for a $500 rebate for financing through HMFC, even if not for the 0% interest? C) If you receive a deal of say, 3.9% interest as I was offered am I still able to use the $1000 consumer rebate and value owner coupon? D) At this point he is scheduled to call me back tomorrow, how would you handle this? Part of me says to not answer the phone or answer it and let him know that regardless of what he was able to miraculously come up with and work out over the night/morning that I am no longer interested - or give him hard figures that I won't budge on and if he can work it, he can, if not - done deal. E) I called my bank today and they were closed but the IVR indicated my loan "payoff amount" was $6,735 - the salesman stated it was $7,100. What would cause this discrepancy. I just made my payment 1.5 weeks ago and I am not charged $300/mo in interest, my current rate was 7.9%. This is only the second time I have purchased a new vehicle and though I realize my approach is likely not the most graceful, it's honest and straight-forward. So summary: He states: $22320 Price of vehicle ($1000 rebate, $500 value owner coupon apparently already applied) -$1000 down ($500 rebate for HMFC Financing / $500 Cash) ----------------------------------- $22320 -$5,500 trade-in --------------------------------- $16,820 + 1,093 Tax ----------------------
What is a good price on a couple variant '08s in MI
by dogboy7 on Sun Dec 09 12:47:02 PST 2007
I am looking at a SE V6 +CFM & CN (23070 msrp, 21842 invoice) or a GLS (I4) with PEP 2 +CFM (20280 msrp, 19418 invoice). I will take the 72 month 0% w/$500 rebate on either. What is a good deal before counting rebate and ttl? Also, if they want to lend to me for 0%, I will let them unless there is a catch? Is there? I see these $1000s below invoice, is that real? Is that counting the rebates? Sorry if the answers are buried somewhere in the thread.

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