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You said you are looking to save money by trading in your TL & leasing a less expensive car, right? Have you thought about the significant amount (many thousands) that your TL has depreciated. You were looking for a loaded civic w/ NAV? Why not look into a more basic LX model if you are really trying to downsize & save money. A Prius?
This is not a direct match but two months ago, I was looking at 2012 Odyssey EXL's with Nav and the best price I found at two dealerships with the lifetime power train warranty was $34,075 BUT, I hadn't included the things you did. One of the useful tools I found was to go up on USAA.com (there are other sites if you are not a USAA member...for military) and they ask you for your zip code. Since I began in the early fall and was traveling from our house in eastern NC, to one of our daughters houses in Pittsburgh, PA and then to my brothers house in Western NY state outside of Buffalo is that if you enter various zip codes, you will get very, very different pricing from these 'direct dealer quotes'. If you want to spend some time on putting in say 10-20 zip codes from different major areas/cities, you may see what I did, VASTLY different pricing, which is EXACTLY how I discovered the 34,075 price fo the EX-L w/Navi. Also, by doing it this way, you can 'build/price' your EXACT Odyssey on line and then, sit back and wait for them 'to come to you' with a price and then play them against each other.
I just stopped by the dealer today in NY. I got the dealer to agree with $31,000 OTD for a 2012 Honda CR-V AWD EX-L w/ RES. So about $28,500 + TTL = $31,000. I want to know what other people paid for this car and if this is a good deal?
The Pilot is our 3rd Honda as well. It is my wife's DD. We bought it primarily for the room. We have 3 children 5 1/2, 3, & 2 months. They are all in child safety seats. The Pilot allows us to seat all 3 of them in the 2nd row, leaving the 3rd row stowed away for cavernous cargo room. There's even a set of LATCH anchors in the 3rd row where the boys (5.5 & 3) like to sit. I also bought it for the reliability, it's a Honda after all. 4WD was a top priority for me too. Don't write the Pilot off due to its abismal gas mileage. You should drive it back to back with its competition. You are a Honda guy & might not like the softer ride of the Highlander (which is 10" shorter than the Pilot). Read the consumer reviews here on edmunds. Everybody who owns a Pilot really loves it. The other 2 Hondas in my current stable: 2010 Black/Ebony Acura TSX w/ Tech pkg 5AT (47K miles) 2001 Milano Red/Black Honda Prelude Type SH 5MT (145K miles) Good luck & let us know what you decide.
I own a 2011 Pilot EXL w/ NAV 4WD. I bought it in May 2011. I currently have about 12,000 miles on it. So I'm well past the 2 traditional "engine break in points" of 5K & 10K miles. We LOVE our Pilot. The ride, the ulitity, the passenger room, the cargo room are all fantastic. The gas mileage is just awful. My wife gets maybe 15.5 driving around town. We usually get about 360 miles per tank. I just took a weekend trip from our house in Stamford, CT to Pittsburgh, PA (about 400 miles each way). I averaged about 17.5 mpg for the entire trip. Cruise was set at 75 going there and 65 coming home. My best tank was a little over 19 mpg & that was literally driving the Pilot as if it was a hypermiling Prius (Set cruise at 60, let everybody pass you...) The thing is, whether you get 12 mpg (my wife driving all city miles during break in), my PB 19.2 mpg, or even the EPA sticker claim of 22 mpg, it costs the same amount to fill the Pilot up every week. Don't let the Pilot's poor gas mileage send you fleeing to another marquee's dealership. We do LOVE it. In our mind, there was no better 3 row, 4WD SUV out there.
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