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Re: CRV EXL with AWD w/o navi price to pay [mazdabuyer08]
by bigdadi118 on Sun Jul 05 08:48:22 PDT 2009
mazdabuyer08 --- Dest charge inclusive + dealer admin/docs fee, TT&L if you want more info, click my name to email me...
Re: CRV EXL with AWD w/o navi price to pay [mazdabuyer08]
by bigdadi118 on Sat Jul 04 22:29:10 PDT 2009
Take 11 to 12% off MSRP... Purchased /|/ Trim /|/ City /|/ State /|/ MSRP /|/ Paid /|/ Savings Feb 22, 2009 | EX-L 4WD 5-Spd AT | Palo Alto | CA | $27,765 | $24,488 | 11.80% Apr 3, 2009 | EX-L 4WD 5-Spd AT | Nashville | TN | $28,365 | $25,618 | 9.68% Apr 7, 2009 | EX-L 4WD 5-Spd AT | Brewster | NY | $27,900 | $25,800 | 7.53% Apr 18, 2009 | EX-L 4WD 5-Spd AT | Chicago | IL | $27,915 | $24,500 | 12.23% May 9, 2009 | EX-L 4WD 5-Spd AT | Lisle | IL | $27,915 | $24,700 | 11.52%
Re: Dealer Backstab? [inthistogether]
by bigdadi118 on Sat Jul 04 15:20:46 PDT 2009
AAA auto club has low rates ... sample Massachusetts 4 .35% Rhode Island 4 .25% Connecticut 4 .74%
2009 Fit Sport AT Blackberry Pearl - $17100 OTD
by gunboat82 on Fri Jul 03 22:26:37 PDT 2009
After going between several dealerships in the Boston area, I just signed the paperwork on the following: $15,900 (includes destination, $500 rebate for partial Honda financing) $795 (5% MA sales tax) $299.75 documentation fees $110 title and registration $17,105 out the door. This is for a 2009 Fit Sport Automatic in Blackberry Pearl, with standard options for the trim level. This was my first time purchasing a new car, and I took the long, circuitous path to a satisfactory ending... Here's how searching for the B.B.D. and clinging to $592 like a rhesus monkey can complicate the car-buying process: 1. I began collecting quotes on June 27, near the end of the month, so take that for what it's worth in terms of dealer motivation. 2. My first step was to collect e-mail quotes from four dealerships through Honda.com and cars.com. I used two different e-mail addresses and two different aliases to determine which dealerships had established firm opening offers from their e-teams, and which allowed loose cannons to throw out arbitrary numbers. The range was from $16,371 to $17,400. Only one dealership quoted both e-mail addresses at the same price, and it was the lowest -- $16,371. 3. I made sure to research everything I could about the actual dealer cost, holdbacks, rebates, etc. I eventually used this information to call out salespeople who told me that there was no flexibility in pricing the Fit, and also reminded one salesman who suggested that they would "take a loss" on $16,300 that the documentation fees exist to pad profits. I had no shame in haggling over a couple hundred bucks, because I was on the fence about whether to purchase a new car anyway. 4. My first visit was to a dealership that had offered one of my e-mail aliases $16,700 (I happened to be in the area, so I figured it would be fine for test driving the vehicle). I told the salesperson firmly that I would not be purchasing that day, but that I would return after doing some research. After three e-mails from different salespeople at the dealership asking if I'd thought about the $16,700 offer, I finally responded by saying that I had received a quote for $16,070 (a small fib). I received the following response from a sales manager: "Salesperson X was correct in saying that every Honda Dealer owns the vehicle for $16,718, however if you finance through American Honda there is an additional $500 in cash back which would bring the price down to $16,218. Seeing as that we take pride in being the #1 Honda Dealer in Sales on the Planet and not letting anybody beat our prices, if you are willing to leave me a small 100% refundable deposit to secure the price as well as the color of your choice in stock, I will sell you the vehicle for $15,900 if you finance through American Honda." 5. After checking for OTD prices on these forums, I decided that, even though these guys appeared desperate to move some inventory, I had probably hit the glass floor, so to speak, in terms of price flexibility. Apparently, these numbers were completely alien to the salespeople on the floor, because they had to check with multiple managers to confirm that the $15,900 quote included destination charges. Perhaps this is why they didn't seem overly disappointed when I walked out upon finding that the only colors available were black, silver, blue sensation, and orange. 6. The next day, a sales manager from a rival dealership (the one that had consistently quoted $16,371) e-mailed to ask if there was anything he could be doing to secure my business that he hadn't done already. At this point, I called him and said, "Sure, you could match this $15,900 offer, but make it a Blackberry Pearl." He responded that he could match the offer, and that if he didn't have my color of choice in stock, he could locate it for the same price. He assured me that he "wouldn't let me walk away over a few hundred dollars." After calling to confirm the quote one last time, I went to the dealership after work. The sales manager passed me off to a novice salesman, perhaps to give him the warm and fuzzy feeling of closing a sure deal. Two-and-a-half hours later, however (don't ask me how so much time was allowed to pass), I was informed that there were no Blackberry Pearls on the lot, and that securing one from a sister lot would cost an additional $592. I replied that this wasn't a problem, because I had been assured that one could be located at no cost. The salesperson simply shrugged and said that his managers hadn't authorized $15,900 for a vehicle that wasn't on the lot. The sales manager who had quoted me the price was nowhere to be found. I walked out, angry and perplexed. Mostly angry. 7. The next day, I tried to call the sales manager who had given me the quote. No response. I sent the following e-mail: I'm just curious why, after receiving a quote for $15,900 on a Blackberry Pearl 2009 Honda Fit Sport Automatic and confirming said quote over the phone, I invested 2 1/2 hours of time at the dealership so that I could be treated to a bait-and-switch? After specifically being told that a Blackberry Pearl Fit with those specs could be located at the quoted price and that XXX Honda "wouldn't let me walk away over a couple hundred bucks," it's a bit disconcerting to sit down to discuss financing and find out that my new quote is $600 higher. I just wanted to offer the opportunity for an explanation. No response. So I sent this e-mail to the customer relations department: I realize that dealerships make plenty of money on trying to browbeat exasperated shoppers once they are in the door (and I suppose it doesn't hurt to ask the customer if he's willing to pay $592 more than a car was offered for), but as a general rule, once a customer insists on the quoted price, I think it would generally be better business practice to honor it. In other words, please don't quote prices and terms that you aren't prepared to honor. Drawing customers with misleading rebates and APR terms is one thing; drawing them by hashing out price terms and then renegotiating when it's time to work out the financing details is another. At the very least, I should have been told over the phone before I wasted my time at the dealership that the locked-in price would only apply to a vehicle on the lot (despite the assurance to the contrary) and that, if I didn't respond favorably to the obligatory shakedown, the offer would be rescinded. Thanks for reading, and I hope you'll pass it along to anyone who cares enough to make a difference. Finally, I got a response from a higher-up... let's call him "Mr. Fix-It." He apologized and assured me that he would do everything in his power to restore my faith in humanity and/or car dealers. Since I still had some venom left in my consumer glands, I seized the opportunity for one last rant:
Re: Bought CRV LX AWD [megahit]
by manchalas on Thu Jul 02 08:40:56 PDT 2009
Hi megahit, I bought it from Herb Chambers, CommonWealth ave, Boston, MA. Yes I agree the price was a killer deal; 3700 off MSRP. But I guess not all dealers can do that price. Some dealers straight away rejected me. I had to go through lot of dealers to settle at that price. Even edmunds.com says any dealer will offer 1500 off msrp without a bargain. If you bargain well, they'll offer 3000 or more.
Re: FWD EX-L w/o Nav - Price Good?? [katylin1]
by bigdadi118 on Sun Jun 28 21:52:22 PDT 2009
katyline1 I like the deal price at $24,100 for exl awd (inclusive of dest charge)

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