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Bought 2005 Ody LX - San Diego/North OC area
by odylxowner on Sat Jul 23 12:23:54 PDT 2005
I couldn't find any mention in this discussion board about buying in San Diego county, and nobody seems to be buying LX's either. Here is my experience. I started out looking for a used low-mileage Ody, but the prices were so high, I decided to go with a new LX with no dealer-added accessories. The features I was most interested in were standard, namely the electronic stabilization control (new in 2005) and the other safety equipment, standard on all Ody models (except for the tire pressure feedback - I wish this had been an option on the LX). First let me say that all the dealers had a $45 doc prep fee, so I don't have to bring that up again. I asked for quotes via the internet. The first quote I got was from Cush Honda for $1500 over invoice (invoice is $23,186 incl. destination) plus over $200 for dealer-added muguards and wheel locks, even though I didn't want them. Poway Honda's e-mail didn't give me a quote. It said I would have to make an appointment. I decided not to call them. I test drove an Odyssey at Hoehn Motors and later talked to the salesman by phone. I told him about the Cush offer. He said that he wasn't authorized to give me a definite price, that he would have to get approval from his supervisor after we agreed on a price. That's the type of negotiation I wanted to avoid. He asked if I would buy it for $1000 over invoice, then $750 over invoice. I told him I was looking for a price close to invoice. He said "you'll never get invoice. That's just not going to happen." Then I asked for quotes (via internet) from a couple of dealers in southern Orange County. Family Honda didn't respond. Power Honda in Costa Mesa sent a quote of $750 over invoice. Then I got a call from Power Honda. They said no charge for mudguards or wheel locks. Plus they would pick me up and give me a ride to the dealership (at least an hour drive!). They had one LX in stock - in Sage Brush. I contacted Cush Honda again, and they said they couldn't match Power Honda, period. In fact, they couldn't come down from their initial offer unless I came in to the dealership. Then I e-mailed Tipton Honda in El Cajon and asked if they could beat Power's offer. I got a phone call back from a salesman who said if I had the quote in writing or an e-mail (which I did), he would beat it by $400. And no charge for mudguards etc. They had one LX, silver. Power Honda came back with an offer of $100 over invoice. Tipton said they would match it. But their shuttle service only goes 11 miles from the dealership. He said he would see if he could arrange a ride, but it would cost me (he didn't know how much) and he would call me the next morning. I went to a dealer that evening to see what Sage Brush looked like. I didn't really care for it, and I liked the silver. I called Tipton Honda the next morning. But I couldn't reach the salesman I had been dealing with. Finally I talked to another salesman, who said he would call me right back himself if the other salesman couldn't. But he didn't call back. I finally reached the original salesman after 1 p.m. (he had said he would call me that morning - I wondered if something funny was going on). He said he had been busy selling 3 cars. I asked him to add up all the charges and give me an OTD price. He hadn't done this yet, and I didn't want any surprises after I got there. He said first he wanted me to forward the other quote so he could show it to his manager. Then, before I had a chance to do that, he called back and said his manager told him the best he could do was $500 over invoice. Needless to say, I was not pleased and let him know it. He said the other dealer just wanted to get me to the dealership and then they would add extra charges. I called Power Honda back and accepted their offer. Unfortunately, the LX had already been sold (the night before), but the salesman said he could trade with another dealer. He called back within 10 minutes and said he had found a silver LX. About 2 hours later, someone arrived to take me to the dealership (extremely interesting conversation for an hour and a half). Everything went smoothly, and there were no surprises. I paid by check. I declined the extended warranty offers. I couldn't have been happier with the service or the price. Odyssey LX (with mud guards - no charge) Cash price: $23,286.00 (22,771+515 dest.) Doc prep fee: 45.00 Sales tax: 1,808.15 Lic & tire fees: 218.75 TotaI price: $25,357.90 Postscript: I got a call later from Tipton Honda from a different salesman. He apologized for not getting back to me and said that my original salesman had quit. He asked if I was still interested and I said no (I was waiting for my ride to Power Honda when he called). This was yesterday. I got another call from Tipton today with the same story. Hmm...

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