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Re: 2007 SES w/options [quietspirit]
by rasldasl on Mon Nov 27 09:07:07 PST 2006
I definitely am not getting 30 MPG in my Focus because it is just too much fun to drive it fast! That, plus I do a lot of city driving (stop sign or light every block type of city driving) and here in NJ/PA we have E10 gas which does not get mileage as good as regular gas. Basically it comes down to price - you will probably pay a few thousand more for a Honda but will also probably get it back when you trade it in.
Re: 2007 SES w/options [quietspirit]
by rasldasl on Fri Nov 17 06:25:32 PST 2006
From the fordpartner website, under How It Works/Pricing. You will need your Partner Code to log into the site. https://www.fordpartner.com/partnerweb/howitworks/how_it_works.do The dealership may also NOT charge separately for document preparation fees, vehicle preparation fees or other administrative services incidental to the delivery of the vehicle on a Partner Recognition Program - X Plan sale.* These expenses are considered to be part of the dealer's normal cost of doing business for which the dealership is compensated by the commission paid. *Each dealer is responsible for complying with applicable laws or regulations. Dealers may not charge different fees to participants in the Partner Recognition Program.
Re: 2007 SES w/options [quietspirit]
by rasldasl on Tue Nov 14 10:21:59 PST 2006
The "DOC" or documentation fee is a line item the dealers usually pre-print on the sales contract to make you think it is not negotiable. It is basically a profit-maker for them, they are asking you to pay them to do the paperwork on the sale of the car. Could you imagine any other type of business charging you to do paperwork? Would you pay extra at the grocery store for them to give you a receipt? Anyway, the point is that everything is negotiable, including the DOC fee. One of the advantages of X-plan is that the dealer is NOT ALLOWED by Ford to charge a documentation fee. The disadvantage comes in on a car that can sometimes be bought for a lower negotiated price than X-plan. Say the price on X-plan is $12,500 with no DOC fee but you can, without mentioning you have an X-plan PIN, get them to sell the same car for $12,000 plus charge a $200 DOC fee. Obviously, the X-plan will cost you more. Shop for the best price and then ask for X-plan only if you can't do better. Go to fordpartner.com and use your X-plan partner code to look up the price on the car you want to buy.
Re: 2007 SES w/options [questsl]
by rasldasl on Wed Oct 18 13:53:23 PDT 2006
Some people are reporting getting better than X-plan just by shopping around. Since you don't have a trade you don't have to worry about getting taken on the value of it. The other advantage of X-plan is that dealer can not charge documentation and advertising fees. If you can get a better deal, take it. If not, X-plan price is good enough.
Re: 2007 ZX5 SES... [explorerx4]
by rasldasl on Fri Sep 08 18:19:40 PDT 2006
You would think that but the dealers still set the price. When I bought my 2004 Chrysler Pacifica that has a similar extended warranty on the powertrain the dealer still wanted over a grand for the extended bumper to bumper warranty. I passed. I found better prices online but never bought one. Thankfully, the car has been nearly trouble free to date.
Re: 2007 ZX5 SES... [nortsr1]
by rasldasl on Thu Sep 07 11:32:06 PDT 2006
It was a Ford factory extended warranty, I think the premier plan. $100 deductible after the bumper to bumper warranty runs out. Covers almost everything not covered by the new extended factory powertrain warranty (which I realize is shorter than last year's special Focus extended powertrain warranty). It also includes for the entire length a rental car from day 2 in the shop.

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