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Wake Up GM: by bondguy1 on Tue Mar 11 17:05:09 PDT 2008; I have never owned an American manufactured car and would never consider one (unless, maybe a Corvette...but not right now in my life with 3 young kids). Anyway, looking at the Mazda CX9, Volkswagen Toureg 2, Acura MDX and one or two others. Why is GM offering such a nice vehicle but then making it so outrageously expensive that the lease programs SUCK. If I were buying it, no problem. Go to my bank, not the dealership, and get a good finance rate...end of story. But, for leasing...quoted for a very loaded (no Hard Drive NAV, No DVD, No Rear Camera system)...does include the package with the rotating headlamps, remote start, back up beeping in bumper, dual moonroofs and one or two other miscelaneous add ons...sticker price of car was $39,400 list. Price with $1,500 at start total, 15K miles annually, 39 months was $681 including the sales tax of 6 1/2%. Is this a good deal? For 36 months, same miles, $658/month. Now, this was without some options as stated above. It did have the bigger chrome wheel package available in CA, TX and FL only. It's really a shame to me because for a car that is loaded at $43,000 area, with about the $1,000 to $1,500 total at start, I would expect to pay about $550-$650/month. I also was looking at a Japanese car (Infiniti) with a sticker price of $51,000 and the lease for 39 months with $1,000 due total at start was about the same...$650 plus tax. I know there are many factors involved including residuals, lease factors and such but GM finally got a car I am somewhat interested in and they are screwing it up for themeselves and everybody who would otherwise want to lease one at a competitive rate...which they definitely are NOT!!! Shame on you GM...you lost my business for a long time (not that you ever had it before but now you'll never get it).

Re: Enclave Contract [ekuanimal]: by maylh on Tue Jan 08 08:15:31 PST 2008; Do you mind if you can pass the contact info for the person and dealer for your purchase. I am also looking for an Enclave in Houston.

Re: Build process [kcorey]+End of Year deals? [ekuanimal] [tencjedd] [nunzi [tencjedd] [nunzi]: by ekuanimal on Tue Jan 01 11:24:04 PST 2008; Well, our car that we ordered on Sept 12th, built on Dec 12th, loaded on the train on Dec 17th made it to Houston, Tx and was delivered to the dealership last night (too late to pick up). We got a very good price on the Enclave; that was one reason we were willing to wait. To close on my loan we had to do it by the end of December but ran into an issue at the dealership; loosing my rate to a full point higher one. The sales and finance managers quickly fixed the issue and worked out my rate to my advantage getting me an excellent rate. Since the car will not be ready for us to pick up until Jan 2, 2008 (prep and window tinting) we signed the deay on Dec 31, 2007 saving the dealership taxes; they inturn worked with us more and provided a loaner car since we were down to a one SUV family with two kids. West Point Buick in Houston did come through and the salesman was nice to work with so all in all they did the best they could... I still have an issue with GM about their build scheduling/allocation process, but I guess the street will take that into account when valuing their stock and not making their revenue numbers while many of us are not able to buy their product... Seems like a broken process but I am not in the automotive verticle... We also did not get the 2nd row center console, from what we see on the web page it doesn't offset the advantage of easy 3rd row access... but it can always be added later. Happy New Year!

Re: Build process [zman3]: by ekuanimal on Sun Dec 16 10:01:22 PST 2007; I hear the frustration out there and I share in that same frustration :( and Zman3 is correct; much of this is with the dealerships. But GM still carries much of the blame. These dealerships are basically "agents" for GM since you cannot buy a car directly from GM; if GM cares about the end user they need to make some changes soon. My dealership is a large Buick dealership in Houston, TX and is also frustrated with this Enclave mess; he showed me the orders. But my question still goes unanswered; what is the build process and timeframes for delivery :confuse: . I was given a "timeframe" of Dec 12-17 for my build; the GM status showed my build actually starting on Dec 12th. What does that really mean?? My sales man says that what he sees is not what GM tells him. Will I see this car this year?? Will it be late January?? Trust me, my salesman wants to give me an answer (we talk daily) but GM will not tell him anything. So, how is it this a dealer issue? I am staying with the Enclave because they have the best car in the area I need; crossover with 3rd row seats. This will be the last car I buy with that need (kids will be older). 15 weeks and counting...

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