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Re: CXL Lease Quote: Thanks, but NO THANKS [dammitjim1]: by bondguy1 on Thu Mar 13 17:19:41 PDT 2008; Correct. I couldn't agree more. I am also going to look at the CX9 (by the way, Motor Trends SUV of the year, not Buick). And, the Buick doesn't have a lot of the available options that are available on Audi...voice command for NAV, Radio, Telephone. Buick Enclave doesn't offer Bluetooth built-in to their vehicle. Satellite Radio (Sirius) is standard on Audi (you get a few months free and then pay for subscription...but it isn't standard on Buick). The Buick has the Xenon headlamps but if you want the ones that go side to side, you have to get an extra package. Keyless entry isn't even available on the Buick...on Audi, just touch the door handle, keep the key in your pocket (any of the four doors or trunk) and the door opens. Push a button inside the car and it starts or stops. If the Buick claims to be the ultimate in SUV luxury, why did they omit some of these features or at least why didn't they offer them as optional? Oh, Audi also has available a warning if you change lanes unintentionally...as if you are tired and doze off or looking down for a second...a great safety feature.

Re: Is This A Good Deal [Car_man]: by bondguy1 on Sun Apr 06 04:33:56 PDT 2008; I don't have the contract in front of me at this moment but I remember seeing something for cap cost of about $39,900 or around there...maybe $39,940...something like that. As far as paying that much for a Buick and being able to get a BMW for that money...go try and do it in my market in South Florida. No money down on a BMW lease is still coming out of pocket with about $4,000 at start. Second, there were no BMW's that interest me. The 5 series to me is ugly as heck, the 7 series too expensive and the 5 series SUV is way too much money to lease...probably about $800+ per month plus tax. I could have leased a Volvo or Mazda CX9 for low $500's including tax and it had more stuff on it featurewise but it's not the same car. First of all, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Mazda only come with a 3/36 warranty? If so, and I was going to lease for 39 months with 15K/annually , what happens when I'm over mileage? I thought the same as you...that much for a Buick...I couldn't even believe I was getting a Buick. I could have for similar money got a Tahoe or bigger SUV. I could have leased a brand new Lincoln Navigator for $597/month sign and drive with scheduled maintenance included...only 10,500 miles allowed per year but could have probably bumped it up to 15K for a little more per month..problem is, my wife is only 4'11" tall...she can't park something that huge...second, do I really want to get only 13 MPG on a Navigator (NO). I was coming out of a fully loaded 2005 Audi A6...second Audi A6 lease in a row...six years of a German car (although a great car) and I was ready for a change. I never had an SUV before and liked the style and features on the Buick. I was saying the same thing as you about paying that much for a Buick. The Audi Q7 SUV is nice looking but has too many terrible reviews...the cars are a mechanical nightmare...had a friend who purchased one and had to Lemon Law the thing. Plus, they similarly equipped as the Buick were at $61,000 pricetag. So, I put it to you...find me that BMW or Mercedes for the same money...oh, yes, I could have leased the Merdedes R class (the stationwagon looking one) for probably similar money but don't like the looks and there are way too many Mercedes in my area...the service at the Mercedes dealers locally is terrible....you have to make an appointment weeks in advance...I don't want that hassle nor do I like driving something that looks like a stationwagon. I like the fact that there aren't too many Enclaves on the road...more unique is okay with me. And, the reliability of Buick according to the JD Power results from August of 07' were number one, tied with Lexus. My residual I think was 59% for a 39 month lease. Total including first payment at start to dealer was $1,250 check. For what it's worth, that $660 per month is including tax.Also, you have to figure in other factors. On most new leases, unless you go for another term with the same brand afterwards, you have a big disposition fee (a nice way for the leasing company to scrw you out of anywhere from $300 to $400 extra dollars to turn the car in). So, add that into the equation...no dispostition with GM. Second, I am allowed on my lease to turn it in with up to $5,000 dollars in damage (hopefully not enough dents or dings will be on the car to equal that amount). This means, that if my tires ar low on tread or there are a few scratches or the interior is dirty, I can safely turn it in without worries. You obviously have never leased a Lexus and then not released with them again. I have freiends who have done this and their leasing company (not sure it it was Toyota Financial or not) tried screwing them out of perfectly clean looking cars...claiming the leather was dirty and charging them and similar other things. No worry lease with GM in that department. So, again, I put it to you, the choices when you factor all of these things in arent' as clear cut as you say. Plus, which Lexus are you talking about for less money per month? An RX series SUV which is tiny and styled from 8 to 10 years old with new tailights or trim to call it the new model this year...nope, not for me. The Enclave is a car that has a long list of great features, good warranty and more unique looking than all the other choices in this price range. Just my opinions though!!!

Re: Lease Deals for April [bondguy1]: by dammitjim1 on Thu Mar 27 05:39:59 PDT 2008; Oh well, GM is going to ride this gravy train for a while and keep lease rates unattractive. If conditions change before my Tahoe lease is up, I'll go for it. As things stand now, I might not continue with leasing a GM car.

Re: Good Lease Deal? [dammitjim1]: by kcorey on Tue Mar 18 09:44:03 PDT 2008; I just don't understand why you would put an Enclave (Buick) into the same class as an Audi (Volkswagen). If you want an Audi (for whatever it's worth) then just get one. It's a lot better to shop for the vehicle (and options on it) that you want,and then bargain for the price, then to say "Oh...I could get, whatever...for that price! A fully loaded car may be great, if that's what you need/want. Don't just buy one because it seems like a good deal. Generally speaking, you'll end up overbuying, and overpaying! Buy what you need!

Re: Enclave Runaround [first300m]: by ekuanimal on Mon Nov 26 15:42:53 PST 2007; And we thought it was just us! We ordered ours on Sept 12th and found our "build" date is to be between Dec 12th - 17th. Buick/GM have been 100% deplorable to work with on this, refusing to assist or provide any information to us or our salesman. I generally vote with my feet but since this is going to be my wife's car I left that decision to her. I loose my company car on Nov 30th (just got the call today) so we have few weeks of being a single car family or just rent a car for a week or so until I take vacation the last of Dec. From what I have read on the internet, nothing from GM, vehicle build dates are determined by the type of vehicle you ordered and the priority of the dealership/city/state. We ordered a CXL/driver confidence package/DVD enter(#2 package)/sunroof/19" tires/towing/platnium metalic. I think the sunroof might have caused a delay. oh well, I am very sorry to hear of your Run-around. The only other difference is that our sales guy is pretty good about it; he isn't happy either since he isn't selling cars thus not getting his commission... :(

Re: Delivery on Enclave [kcorey]: by nunzi on Mon Nov 26 10:55:06 PST 2007; oh my GOD that is forever for me... Now I am nervous because I traveled all over Long Island where I am from (near the Hamptons) and I finally ordered it from a friend of mine in the Bronx because of all this nonsense ... 13wks is like forever... But from what I hear it is worth the wait right??? :surprise:

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