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Re: is this a good price? [pamela12]
by nyccarguy on Tue Mar 25 19:27:38 PDT 2008
First of all, 42550 is the MSRP of the car? Second, do not put "money down" on a lease in the form of a cap cost reduction. If your car is stolen or totalled the very next day you will LOSE that money. The same goes for your taxes. Roll them into the payment for the same reason. I see the tire recycle fee of $12.50 so you live in NY? Try getting that money back from Albany if your car is stolen or totalled. Leasing is just like buying. You negotiate the price of the car, not the payment. Then you negotiate the money factor (which the dealer is marking up). The MSRP on the car above is $42,550 You should negotiate the selling price of the car as $40,320 ($1000 over invoice) The money factor is .00175 (4.2%) I plugged the numbers into leaseguide and came up with the following payment for a 36 month/ 15K per year lease: $514.98 per month + Tax.
330i Lease - A Good Deal?
by gone4aride on Mon Feb 20 15:53:34 PST 2006
Looking to lease a 2006 330i in the Albany, NY area and just received the following quote from a local dealer. From what I have seen on this forum, I believe that the quoted lease terms are competitive, but I am not too sure about the dealer profit factor. Should I be able to find a better deal in this region or is the following truly competitive. Dealer has stated that $1750 over invoice is the best that they will do on a vehicle that must be ordered. I have never leased before, so please let me know what you think. 2006 330i Premium pkg Sport pkg Cold weather pkg Sat Radio Metallic Paint MSRP - $43,165 QUOTE - $41,265 (Invoice + $1750) Lease terms: 36 months/15k miles per yr. MF = 0.00195 Residual = 62% NYS Acq Fee = $825 DMV=$125 Taxes=$1,612.89 NYS Inspec = $16 Dealer Doc. Fee=$45 Tire Disp Fee=$12.50 Security Deposit=$600 Payment = $560.03 (1st due @ inception)
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by glaker on Tue Jun 07 11:09:22 PDT 2005
I’ve tried to stay out of the “debate” related to the pros and cons of having a sales rep as one of the primary discussion leaders, but frankly I’m getting more and more confused by virtualbmw’s comments and beginning to see some conflict with his assorted bits of advice. Perhaps I don’t understand bits of his advice and he could help me see some of the logic behind his statements. First, in post #4082 on June 4 virtualbmw suggested that someone offer $35k for a 2005 330 with a list of $43795 and a dealer cost of $40140. Even after subtracting the $4200 mfg to dlr cash, the cost to the dealer for the vehicle would be $35940. Why would a sales rep for a BMW dealership recommend the client offer $940 below dealer cost? Is this supposed to be an advisable negotiating technique to use with a dealership? Is that a good way to show a sales rep I’m knowledgeable about the car and costs and I’m serious about buying? Second, in post #4125 virtualbmw explains that the incentive expired on May 31, implying that buyers probably would no longer get that big discount from dealer cost. But wouldn’t most dealerships show the year end 325 and 330 sedans as “sold” so they still get the cash from BMW? It would seem foolish to do otherwise (and it was what virtualbmw suggested in post #4082 that the dealer in question did). What did your dealership do? Are the deals on the 2005 sedans, indeed, over? Finally, as to the purchase of a year end 2005 330 at US dealership prices versus purchase of a 2006 at ED prices, it looks to me as if the price difference will be somewhere around $2000 plus the cost of a trip to Europe. I suggest that, if you’re flying over for a day just to take delivery of the car, you ought to figure that cost into the price differential. However, if you make the trip into a fun vacation, it’s a lot harder to say the cost of the trip should be figured into the price of the car. I favor the vacation. So when I do that, the comparison for me is whether the 2006 with its new technology and engine (and possible first year “bugs”) is worth a couple of thousand more than the 2005. IMO, I’d go to Europe, have a great time and pick up a new car!
Re: alebrady [alebrady]
by glaker on Fri May 06 14:57:44 PDT 2005
Alebrady: Here’s my answer to your post. This is just my opinion. I welcome corrections and contrary opinions from others..... If you use the basic chassis/suspension of the 325 as a base, you will find that the first factory change in suspension is when you add the sports package option. This gets you a different ride and road feel based partly on the firmer suspension and larger wheels/lower profile tires. The car will be stiffer and you will feel bumps more, but the ability to stick to the road is increased. If you take another step up (but only available in the 330 with it’s larger engine), you can get the performance package (referred to as the ZHP option). This gets you even a stiffer and lower suspension, bigger wheels, lower profile summer only tires (different sizes on the front and rear), and a bunch of other things like a better shifter (from the M), a beefed up engine (12 more horses) and elimination of the 128mph speed governor. The difference in both ride and performance between a 325 without sports package and a 330 with ZHP is like night and day. But to ride as a passenger over curvy or bumpy roads in a 330 with ZHP requires a strong stomach. You do a lot of bumping around. Unless you feel you are a good driver and REALLY like to spend time behind the wheel driving fast and having fun, go with the 325. The ZHP is worth the money in my eyes, but you’ll see lots of contrary opinions in this forum. I also question how may 2005s with ZHP are still available. Good luck!
Re: alebrady
by glaker on Thu May 05 12:50:20 PDT 2005
Last year when I did the Susan Koman Breast Cancer drive, all the staff were buzzing about the 330 with the performance package. I drove it (twice, in fact) and came away with a huge smile on my face. It was much more fun than driving anything else on the BMW roster except for the 545 (Which is waaay more expensive). Bottom line is I bought one a few months later and got a great deal. Every time I drive it I wear an ear to ear grin. It was even a good performer in the upstate NY winter when shod with 4 snows. The only thing you need to be prepared for is a very harsh ride with the 18" wheels and low profile summer tires. If the roads around you are full of pot holes, you might want something with a little softer suspension. It all depends on the roads and your driving style. Good luck with your selection!
RE: sueh
by glaker on Tue May 03 13:49:28 PDT 2005
I have titanium gray metallic on my 2003 530 and I think it's beyooooteful! I think you'll really like it. It doesn't show dirt as much as many dark colors, but it shines like anything in the sun.

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