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New TT3.2 Roadster Lease
by jcpmiami on Sat Nov 17 06:27:48 PST 2007
I just put a deposit down on a new Audit TT 3.2 Roadster fully loaded, nav system, enhanced interior with fine nappa leather, iPod interface, xenon lights, sports suspension,blue tooth, 18" wheels and more. The car will be available in a few days so I haven't signed any of the paperwork. I have been told that the monthly lease payment of 36 months with $2100 inception costs (includes first payment), 10000 miles will be $840. The price of the vehicle has been coded at $57,500, which again is fully, fully loaded. This is the only vehicle currently available in the color that I like and the options that I wanted. Granted, there are a couple of options in it that I could probably do away with. Does this sound right? Audi TTs should have a high residual value (57-58%) and the money factor should be at or below .0020 given the low interest rates in the market and my excellent credit score. Seems to me that they could probably bring it down another $40-$50 per month, at the very least. Thanks.
Re: what [rjlaero]
by nyaudi on Thu Jul 26 20:40:19 PDT 2007
I'm also getting the story from the local dealer that the supplier program doesn't combine with the lowest rate leasing. But I also had an e-mail from the supplier program that said all standard incentives apply. The $2K incentive on top of the 6% MSRP is known by the dealiers. As someone else noted, they may have something even better. However, I also found that the current terms aren't all that great. I was told: 3yr 15k/year A4 2.0T - 51% residual / 2.3% interest (converted money factor) A4 3.2 - 48% residual / 3.1% interest This results in a markedly higher payment than my current A4 3.0 lease despite a lower purchase price. Granted, my current one works out to about 0.9%, but the residual is also much better for same term/mileage. So I think much of this discount is offsetting crummy residuals, and thus I'm not sure I'm going with this. I will check w/the dealer tomorrow in person and go through in detail to decide. If you plan to pay cash, it still seems like a decent enough deal but I don't want to own an Audi out of warranty.
Re: good grief [audihorse]
by edwardsf on Fri Jun 15 18:13:05 PDT 2007
Thanks for your attempts to explain this. According to 2 contract attorneys in my office, your view that it is unethical for AFS to require that "ONLY [the lessee] can buy it for the price agreed," has no basis in contract law. The third party buyer has no privity with the lessor, AFS, and therefore has no right to the price that the lessee contracted for. Why you guys think that a lessee can transfer the lease buyout terms to a third party or that the lessor would allow the lessee to do so is beyond the understanding of the two contract attorneys I spoke to. That is, if you want out of a business deal, you got to pay. Remember, by selling to the third party at resdiual, Audi will lose interest. AFS can certainly agree to release the lessee but they can also make up for this lost profit by charging more to the third party. Even if the lessee himself can eliminate the interest through a prepayment buyout, AFS has no obligation to grant this original contract inducement to a third party. By agreeing to transfer this price to the third party, Audi loses the opportunity to sell the car for the price and manner they choose. After all, it is AFS' car and they get to sell it at the terms they set. Again, AFS is under no obligation to provide a third party with the terms that they have negotiated with the lessee. I never said that Audi is taking a consumer friendly position. I only said that I don't believe that such a consumer friendly practice is industry custom. Neither of your combined 5 or 6 posts has provided any support for the existence of this supposed custom, so I can only conclude that it does not exist. One thing that we can agree on is that lessees should not assume that Audi - who subvents these leases - will let them transfer favorable lease terms to a third party. BTW, I never bragged about residual rates, just made a typo that a low residual is good. I meant a high residual is favorable. I did not get a great residual (.51) but I did buy at $1000 under invoice.
Re: the subie vs the audi [kurtamaxxxguy]
by subiedubie on Tue Mar 21 06:42:40 PST 2006
There is no Subaru WTX model in the USA. I believe you are thinking of the Impreza WRX that comes in sedan and wagon models. Also, do you know what model year your friend's car was? For 2006 Subaru changed engines, placing the 2.5 230 hp engine in the WRX which has no turbo lag. You can also get leather and a moonroof in the WRX, nad even with those options, It's still less than a similar A3, plus you get AWD. Granted, the interior is more spartan, byut that is another area that they upgraded for 2006.
Re: Lease vs. Buy [socalhelp]
by pucknut on Fri Mar 10 09:56:05 PST 2006
Advice for the lease: Weigh it heavily. You will get into trouble if you drive a lot! In the end, whether you turn in or buy, you will regret then. Way back, I was offered a great deal which would allow me to get into the A4. Feeling excited and nutz, and having money from working a lot, I felt the entitlement. Don't get me wrong, it is and was a great car. But at the end of the lease, to continue driving it (aka, own) my payments would go up. Think of leasing this way: "Ok, I will lease. Able to ride around in a great car, for 3 years. Maintenance covered. Essentially a no problem car. Catch: what will I do when that 36m is up?!" I was not happy, having limited options and not having the particular means to buy another car, let alone have my monthly payment increase. However, should money be of no significance to you, then there really is no bad answer, let alone advice. Granted, cars are like computers: never will make you money, always depreciate, and they will always come out with something better. So, if money is of no consequence, yes, go with the lease. However, if you can not be or allow yourself to be that free-spending, then definitely buy. In probably 24-26m I will look to get back to an Audi! This time to own. For there are still little things that happen during a lease that are nerve-racking because it isn't YOUR car. Maintenance may be covered. Warranties may come in handy (but one has this if one buys a car... = push). But, if you ding the rims (as I did), it still comes out of your pocket for the rim repair guy through the dealer for X dollars. Different driving when it is someone elses. Some things to think about... Best of luck.
Re: MSRP flexibility [bullbanker]
by jbond3 on Mon Dec 19 06:47:27 PST 2005
I got my fully loaded (exc. cold weather package)A4 Q for about $37K-$200 over invoice. Plus I had to pay additional $300 in total BS "dealer preparation" and "dealership association" fees. All in all I think it was a good deal. Granted, I live in the Northeast.

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